G70 Curb Weight

[Toddasaurus]

Hey everyone, the weight of the G70 in various trims has surfaced...

G70 2.0 Turbo (19" rims)
[RWD] - 1630kg
[AWD] - 1695kg


G70 3.3 Turbo (19" rims)
[RWD] - 1705kg
[AWD] - 1775kg


...this is all Korean spec. I assume US and Canadian spec trims will be slightly different; even so, at least we can get a better idea of how much this thing weighs compared to other cars. As it stands from this list, it looks like the G70 will be approximately 100lbs less than the Stinger, given a similar trim (ie V6 vs 4cyl, and AWD vs RWD). I don't know about everyone else, but I was hoping there would be a bigger difference in weight vs the Stinger... :c

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEPYqflmc2A

 

[dougjp]

Hey everyone, the weight of the G70 in various trims has surfaced...

G70 2.0 Turbo (19" rims)
[RWD] - 1630kg 3593.5 lb.
[AWD] - 1695kg 3736.8 lb.


G70 3.3 Turbo (19" rims)
[RWD] - 1705kg 3758.9 lb. Stinger 3829 lb.
[AWD] - 1775kg 3913.2 lb. Stinger 4023 lb.; Audi S4 3858 lbs.; BMW 340i xDrive 3858 lbs.; Mercedes C43 AMG 3799 lbs.; Infinity Q50 Red Sport 4023 lbs.


...this is all Korean spec. I assume US and Canadian spec trims will be slightly different; even so, at least we can get a better idea of how much this thing weighs compared to other cars. As it stands from this list, it looks like the G70 will be approximately 100lbs less than the Stinger, given a similar trim (ie V6 vs 4cyl, and AWD vs RWD). I don't know about everyone else, but I was hoping there would be a bigger difference in weight vs the Stinger... :c

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEPYqflmc2A

Thanks, I added the conversion to lbs above, with Stinger weights for the 3.3. Also some competitor AWD upscale engine car weights (source, kbb). Yes, IMO disappointing.

 

[devellis]

Yeah, I was expecting a bigger difference in weight between the Stinger and G70, also. A 4023-lb. car is pretty hefty. Added weight can have a noticeable impact on driving dynamics, although this isn't a massive car by any means. But still, lighter is better in my book.

Maybe they'll shave a few pounds off for the US-spec, although sometimes the things they do to come in a few pounds lighter aren't worth the weight difference. Do we know whether the G70 has a spare tire? The Q50 RS400 has those terrible Dunlop run-flat tires to avoid the weight of a spare and they're one of the car's worst features. I'd rather have the extra weight of a limited-use spare tire and rim than save the weight and have to drive on those run-flats day in and day out.

 

[dougjp]

Yeah, I was expecting a bigger difference in weight between the Stinger and G70, also. A 4023-lb. car is pretty hefty. Added weight can have a noticeable impact on driving dynamics, although this isn't a massive car by any means. But still, lighter is better in my book.

Maybe they'll shave a few pounds off for the US-spec, although sometimes the things they do to come in a few pounds lighter aren't worth the weight difference. Do we know whether the G70 has a spare tire? The Q50 RS400 has those terrible Dunlop run-flat tires to avoid the weight of a spare and they're one of the car's worst features. I'd rather have the extra weight of a limited-use spare tire and rim than save the weight and have to drive on those run-flats day in and day out.

Absolutely! Run Flats were a big reason to cross off the Q50 and Cadillac ATS from my list last time around. I'll never have them, can't be run at all with sidewall problems for example. The ATS doesn't even have jacking points on the car!

 

[Toddasaurus]

Thanks, I added the conversion to lbs above, with Stinger weights for the 3.3. Also some competitor AWD upscale engine car weights (source, kbb). Yes, IMO disappointing.

Nice, thanks for adding the conversion and comparison weights! It does make me feel a little better knowing that other luxury cars weigh about the same. Even so, I was genuinely hoping the G70 would weigh less...

As for the spare tire, I am unsure... I saw another video of a guy (his channel is called Team 974) reviewing a Korean spec G70 where he opens the trunk - lifting the cargo mat shows a black hard foam organizer for misc items, I don't know if there is a spare tire underneath that or not.

 

[YEH]

Wasn't expecting a drastic reduction in weight as it's not like the G70 is using more light-weight materials like aluminum or carbon fiber (still a bit of a disappointment).

Also have to keep in mind how much tech/safety features come standard (along w/ luxury touches such as double-pane glass) which all adds weight.

 

[Bamm1]

Thanks, I added the conversion to lbs above, with Stinger weights for the 3.3. Also some competitor AWD upscale engine car weights (source, kbb). Yes, IMO disappointing.

C&D weighs all the cars it tests. It tested both the AWD and RWD Stinger GT (3.3T). Here are the weights:

RWD: 4004 lb
AWD: 4157 lb

Using these numbers it is an ~250 lb. weight difference vs. the G70. Which I think makes sense.

 

[dougjp]

C&D weighs all the cars it tests. It tested both the AWD and RWD Stinger GT (3.3T). Here are the weights:

RWD: 4004 lb
AWD: 4157 lb

Using these numbers it is an ~250 lb. weight difference vs. the G70. Which I think makes sense.

Did they state the weights for the G70 in each trim? Depends how they weigh the cars, but just from the difference my guess is with an X % fill of fuel and perhaps some options rather than a base version. I really don't know how kbb gets their numbers. Here's kbb's link by the way, I should have included it in the previous post to give proper credit.

https://www.kbb.com/car-research/

 

[Mark_888]

C&D weighs all the cars it tests. It tested both the AWD and RWD Stinger GT (3.3T). Here are the weights:

RWD: 4004 lb
AWD: 4157 lb

Using these numbers it is an ~250 lb. weight difference vs. the G70. Which I think makes sense.

The definition of curb weight varies by country. For example, in the EU, manufacturers include the weight of a 75-kilogram (165 lb) driver to follow European Directive 95/48/EC.

Here is the official definition of curb weight for the USA:

"The United States Environmental Protection Agency regulations define curb weight as follows: Curb weight means the actual or the manufacturer’s estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with §86.1832–01."​

We will find out the official USA curb weight to the G70 when it comes to dealers and Genesis Motors publishes the EPA specs. I would not compare C&D weights with any published specs, especially if published for Korea market.

 

[Bamm1]

The definition of curb weight varies by country. For example, in the EU, manufacturers include the weight of a 75-kilogram (165 lb) driver to follow European Directive 95/48/EC.

Here is the official definition of curb weight for the USA:

"The United States Environmental Protection Agency regulations define curb weight as follows: Curb weight means the actual or the manufacturer’s estimated weight of the vehicle in operational status with all standard equipment, and weight of fuel at nominal tank capacity, and the weight of optional equipment computed in accordance with §86.1832–01."​

We will find out the official USA curb weight to the G70 when it comes to dealers and Genesis Motors publishes the EPA specs. I would not compare C&D weights with any published specs, especially if published for Korea market.

The US safety regs are also different and complying with some of them does add weight to the vehicle. So comparing weights "market to market" is not always "apples to apples".

I would agree here and go one step further. I usually wait until an independent source (like C&D) weighs the car. If you look at the reported weights for the GT, GT1 and GT2 AWD Stinger trims from Kia they claim they all weigh 4023 lbs. There are a lot of different options between those trims (for example, the GT trim doesn't have a sunroof but the others do). So I highly doubt they all weigh the same. When C&D weighed the GT2 AWD they got 4157 lbs. Well over the weight reported by Kia.

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[TO Genesis]

From the Canadian brochures for both vehicles, and taking the top of the manufacturer's stated range:

Stinger GT Limited: 4165 lb.
G70 3.3T Sport: 3913 lb.

Not quite the 400 lb difference the cute Genesis rep was stating at the Auto Show yesterday. Yeah, I'm old and converted from metric.

 

[Mark_888]

From the Canadian brochures for both vehicles, and taking the top of the manufacturer's stated range:

Stinger GT Limited: 4165 lb.
G70 3.3T Sport: 3913 lb.

Not quite the 400 lb difference the cute Genesis rep was stating at the Auto Show yesterday. Yeah, I'm old and converted from metric.

Are both of these AWD?

 

[devellis]

Are both of these AWD?

Taking the vehicle weight at 4000 pounds (somewhere between the two and a nice round number) and the difference at 250 pounds (another round number), that's about a 6.25% difference. Obviously, you'll get different figures if you calculate 250 lb. down from the Stinger's weight or 250 lb. up from the G70's, but it's a workable approximation. That difference doesn't seem trivial to me and is roughly what I expected. A 100 lb. difference, on the other hand, is about a 2.5% difference, which does seem pretty minor. So, if it holds true, the 250-pound advantage to the G70 will be good news.

As a comparison point, I'd point out that manufacturers have done things like eliminated spare tires or passenger-side seat motors on various models in the interest of saving weight and getting better performance and mileage figures as a result. Those marginal alterations certainly don't take off 250 pounds. I think in some cases, they represent an overall effort to cut weight wherever possible to slim down a car and perhaps shouldn't be considered in isolation. But in any case, getting the G70 250 pounds lighter than the Stinger (with its longer frame and less sheet metal at the back) seems like a difference worth noting.

 

[Mark_888]

Taking the vehicle weight at 4000 pounds (somewhere between the two and a nice round number) and the difference at 250 pounds (another round number), that's about a 6.25% difference. Obviously, you'll get different figures if you calculate 250 lb. down from the Stinger's weight or 250 lb. up from the G70's, but it's a workable approximation. That difference doesn't seem trivial to me and is roughly what I expected. A 100 lb. difference, on the other hand, is about a 2.5% difference, which does seem pretty minor. So, if it holds true, the 250-pound advantage to the G70 will be good news.

As a comparison point, I'd point out that manufacturers have done things like eliminated spare tires or passenger-side seat motors on various models in the interest of saving weight and getting better performance and mileage figures as a result. Those marginal alterations certainly don't take off 250 pounds. I think in some cases, they represent an overall effort to cut weight wherever possible to slim down a car and perhaps shouldn't be considered in isolation. But in any case, getting the G70 250 pounds lighter than the Stinger (with its longer frame and less sheet metal at the back) seems like a difference worth noting.

I just asked if the numbers above were both AWD?

I think we will have to wait until the official USA version specs are released to know what the difference is. Personally, I am not interested in either car, so I don't care. My next vehicle is going to be a SUV, big enough to survive a collision without being seriously injured or killed. I am not interested in drag racing, either on the street or at a track.

 

[TO Genesis]

Are both of these AWD?

Yes. The Stinger is only AWD in Canada. For the G70 only the Sport 2.0 T is RWD. All other variants are AWD.

 

[TO Genesis]

Do we know whether the G70 has a spare tire?

The car I saw at the Toronto Autoshow only had room for one of those inflatable 1 use spares and a can of inflater. No room for a donut type spare. At least it doesn't have run flats.

 

[GenesisYEG]

The car I saw at the Toronto Autoshow only had room for one of those inflatable 1 use spares and a can of inflater. No room for a donut type spare. At least it doesn't have run flats.

The 2.0T Sport RWD is confirmed to have an air compressor and tire sealant in lieu of a spare. Every other trim for the Canadian market, including the 3.3T Sport, will have a temporary spare tire.

 

[devellis]

The 2.0T Sport RWD is confirmed to have an air compressor and tire sealant in lieu of a spare. Every other trim for the Canadian market, including the 3.3T Sport, will have a temporary spare tire.

If the run-flats are as bad as the descriptions I've read (for the Dunlops, at least), I think I'd prefer even the sealant and compressor to driving on those crummy tires. Kudos to Genesis for supplying the car with the sort of tires it deserves.

 

[GenesisYEG]

If the run-flats are as bad as the descriptions I've read (for the Dunlops, at least), I think I'd prefer even the sealant and compressor to driving on those crummy tires. Kudos to Genesis for supplying the car with the sort of tires it deserves.

Runflats are terrible. The product planner for Genesis Canada is not a fan of runflats so he refuses to put them on the cars.

Sports get Michelin PS4s (not PS4Ses although rumor has it there is a more track-friendly version coming out with PS4Ses ) so the car will be grippy!