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R-Spec - What speed for maximum MPG on road trips?

MrBrady

2014 Genesis 5.0 R-Spec
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2014 R-Spec here. Going on a long road trip next week (1K miles round trip). Car has 49k miles on it now with new shoes. About to go get an oil change as well.

Curious - what have you all found is the ideal speed for crusing on road trips for optimimum MPG? Also, what tire pressure for MPG / comfort balance?

Tonight I did a 75 mile road trip. Filled up with regular (I typically use Premium 91) just before leaving. Had the cruise set on 69 (speed limit is 65) the entire time and averaged 25.1 MPG. Not too bad, but I think there's room for improvment.

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
 
2014 R-Spec here. Going on a long road trip next week (1K miles round trip). Car has 49k miles on it now with new shoes. About to go get an oil change as well.

Curious - what have you all found is the ideal speed for crusing on road trips for optimimum MPG? Also, what tire pressure for MPG / comfort balance?

Tonight I did a 75 mile road trip. Filled up with regular (I typically use Premium 91) just before leaving. Had the cruise set on 69 (speed limit is 65) the entire time and averaged 25.1 MPG. Not too bad, but I think there's room for improvment.

Thanks in advance for the feedback!

You have a 4300 pound car with a large engine and you are concerned with gas mileage?? That's a bit like watching your weight while eating a hot fudge sundae. I leave gas mileage concerns to my wife's Honda Fit. :)
 
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Only on long road trips when 91 is creeping up on $4/gal. Lol

Typically I'm stuck in traffic (SF Bay Area) so gas milage is the last thing I'm thinking about.
 
Only on long road trips when 91 is creeping up on $4/gal. Lol

Typically I'm stuck in traffic (SF Bay Area) so gas milage is the last thing I'm thinking about.

I doubt running 91 octane is really needed. 87 will cost you much less and shouldn't damage the engine.
 
50 mph is the most economical speed. Now, get real and enjoy your car. BTW, why are you wasting money on Premium gas? Read the manual.
 
5BTW, why are you wasting money on Premium gas? Read the manual.
The manual recommends premium. That's what Hyundai used for EPA mileage testing.
 
25 mpg sounds about right. I average around 23 mpg on back roads and highway driving on regular gas. Speed does not have that much of an affect on mileage, whether it is 60 or 80 mph. Nothing to complain about. It is a heavy comfortable car with a decent amount of power.
 
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The best speed is below 55 as the air resistance become much greater as you increase speed. Problem is, it is unsafe to cruise at that speed when traffic is moving at 70+. You can cause an accident even if you are not involved. Considering the size and weight of your car, 25 is respectable.

Tire pressure is a balance of ride comfort and handling. I like to go about 3 psi above the recommendation and change the balance slightly towards handling.

I recently did a 3500 mile trip and averaged 24.5 but highway portions were up to 26.9. For a big car with lots of comfort, I'm OK with that. If saving money on gas was top priority I'd be driving an Accent. I also set the cruise for 75 but often go to 80+ when I can.
 
The manual recommends premium. That's what Hyundai used for EPA mileage testing.

Is it not so that 87 is also acceptable fuel, per the manual?
 
The manual recommends premium. That's what Hyundai used for EPA mileage testing.


It is a bit of a semantics game. 91 recommended for improved performance but not required. 87 work's well. Some feel they get better performance with the higher octane. Pretty much a "mind of the beholder" thing. My 2015 Acura TLX indicated premium recommended. I never noticed any difference in performance or mileage between the two grades, so I used 87. In my neck of the woods the difference in cost between 87 and 93 is around 50 cents/gallon on a 20 gallon tank, the difference seems worth it to me.
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Curious - what have you all found is the ideal speed for crusing on road trips for optimimum MPG? Also, what tire pressure for MPG / comfort balance?

I found this. Keep in mind, it can be a danger to travel slower than the traffic flow.

According to studies backed by the department of energy, the average car will be at its advertised MPG at 55 mph. But as the speed increases:

- 3% less efficient at 60 mph
- 8% less efficient at 65 mph
- 17% less efficient at 70 mph
- 23% less efficient at 75 mph
- 28% less efficient at 80 mph
 
Between 65 and 70mph I will get closer to 27mpg when I drive to Houston. Now this is a 250 mile trip with no stops so a real highway example.
75 -80mph yields closer to 25mpg

I have done this trip many times
 
Between 65 and 70mph I will get closer to 27mpg

Congrats, that's excellent mileage for a 5.0 R Spec. I have the 2018 G80 3.8 and at 70, I get just about the same 27 mpg. With around 118hp less than the 5.0.
 
The 2018 G80 can be 150-400+lbs more than my vehicle so that will have some to do with fuel economy.
That also makes the 2012-2014 Rspec sedans a very nice "sleeper" vehicle 💤💥 Considering we have the same 8 speed transmissions (I believe unless there are minor differences).
Either way yes, I get that with full highway driving and the engine is barely working crusing in 8th gear. Mixed or mostly city will drop to 18-19 or easily 15mpg depending on how many stoplight races come my way.
 
I can catch 25mpg @ 80mph on a steady drive. Traffic really starts to kill that though. On long drives I will kick it into manual/sport mode to lock into 8th gear and prevent a downshift. The 5.0 has more than enough torque in 8th gear to pass most traffic. I typically run 30psi on all four corners, but on long trips (>300 miles) I will bump that up to 33psi.
The best I have ever see was 27.7mpg doing 65mph and a 5-10mph tail wind. Currently, and unfortunately, I get 19.5-19.7mpg regardless of the frequency I use the power pedal.
 
You ask a question that, well, the answer you want depends on MANY variables.

The best fuel economy depends on several things (and int in any particular order):

1) Condition of engine and filters (plugs, etc)

2) Type and condition of tires (low rolling resistance tires, etc)

3) Tire INFLATION pressure. When doing long highway trips I tend to run a few pounds to the harder side (but not much).

4) Terrain. Obviously FLAT terrain will provide overall better fuel economy than hilly or mountainous terrain. Hilly terrain does not 'even' out economy because there's always a heat and friction penalty to pay when going uphill (think of raising a weight to a height and think 'work'). There's no such thing as a free lunch.

5) Weight of vehicle (excess weight penalizes you when accelerating and braking).

6) Driver experience and habits

7) Use of air conditioning and other equipment, depending on weather. I don't recommend driving with windows open, however if weather is pleasant I will run without AC on and just have air exchange in the cabin.

8) WEATHER. Head winds INCREASE fuel consumption, and tailwinds decrease fuel consumption as the air resistance decreases with a tail wind. Cross winds have little effect EXCEPT to the extent that a cross wind (other than a 90 degree crosswind relative to your direction of travel) has either a head wind component or a tail wind component. Think of driving into a 40 mile headwind and you are doing 70 mph (ground speed). The air your car has to push out of the way is coming at you, now, as if you were doing 110 mph. Obviously you are not expending the fuel as if you are doing 110 BUT the extra resistance from pushing that faster air out of the way comes with a penalty.

Temperature and relative humidity also affect fuel economy. A regular gasoline-powered car sees its gas mileage drop by 12 percent when the temperature is 20 degrees. COLDER temperatures mean that the air is DENSER. Not only is COLDER air harder to push out of the way, it affects how the car's ECM meters out fuel, etc to the cylinders. Colder air is denser, which means more oxygen. Without the ECM adjusting the injection process to provide more fuel, the engine will run lean, so it adds a bit more fuel by allowing the injectors to stay open longer to compensate for the additional oxygen.

In conditions where relative humidity is HIGH, you will may, but not noticeably tend to get better fuel economy - except where humidity and HEAT force you to use A/C. Depending on the engine type you could get a very slight boost in efficiency due to the increased humidity in the engine's air intake. Also, the increased humidity of the air while it is raining will decrease the density of air. This will result in a slightly lower dynamic pressure and thus slightly lower drag.

Altitude also affects fuel economy (see terrain). The ECM will compensate fuel injection and timing to make up for variances in altitude.

I lived in SE Arizona for 25 years, and bought the Genny in 2011 (3.8L). We moved us and it to OH a few years ago. IN Arizona we had to deal with very HOT, very DRY conditions, as well as living at 5,000 altitude. The best I was able to get out of the 3.8, considering a trip to Tucson was 80 miles (downhill from 5,000 to 2300') one way was somewhere around 28-30 mpg. This was the average for the entire trip 160 miles, down and back up).

9) Fuel blend: Winter or Summer blend? Winter blends have more additives, etc to reduce emissions (and economy).

10) E10 vs '100 percent gasoline'. Virtually all fuel comes blended now. There are places where you can still get "100% gas, but suffice it to say that an E10 rating at the pump (90% gas, 10% ethanol) can vary by as much as 5%, and the less alcohol, the better economy you may notice. Ethanol provides only about 75-80% the BTU content of a gallon of fuel. Without doing specific math and numbers, think of it as this: In a give amount of gasoline, say 10 gallons, you have about 110,000 BTU per gallon of energy available (making it simple). If you pull out ONE gallon and replace it with ONE gallon of ethanol, you are replacing that gallon with about 80,000 BTU (I'm making rough estimates for demonstration sake). So you do take a penalty in economy and performance but NOT a big one. Think of it as replacing 1/10 of your fuel volume with a gallon of alcohol that is 80% efficient. So I think the overall penalty is about 3%. If you add to that the fact that winter weather and winter blended fuel is used, you CAN lose as much as 10% economy, but overall, just e10 fuel can cost you 3-4 percent or so. Maybe as much as 5% if the blend is well over 10% (15%). So you can pay more for '100% gas" if you can find it. Unfortunately, about the only places you can now are near marinas (for boats). Aircraft still use unethanol'd and leaded fuel and AVGas is no deal. I see that some stations like Sunoco offer 100 octane racing fuel (I'm thinking that's all gasoline) but they want like $7 a GALLON for it. NO deal. I think you can go online and look for stations around you where you can get 100% gasoline if that's a big factor to you.


Hope this helped answer your questions. Some variables you can control, some you can't. In Arizona, where the speed limit was 75, I ran anywhere between 65 and 80 depending on weather, terrain, and wind. Here in Ohio I drive 25 miles to work, some backroads, some freeway and some city streets, and average about 25 mpg.

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2014 R-Spec here. Going on a long road trip next week (1K miles round trip). Car has 49k miles on it now with new shoes. About to go get an oil change as well.

Curious - what have you all found is the ideal speed for crusing on road trips for optimimum MPG? Also, what tire pressure for MPG / comfort balance?

Tonight I did a 75 mile road trip. Filled up with regular (I typically use Premium 91) just before leaving. Had the cruise set on 69 (speed limit is 65) the entire time and averaged 25.1 MPG. Not too bad, but I think there's room for improvment.

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
 
Just use your instantious mileage indicator and you will do fine. If you look ahead and coast to stops/ start with a quick push then ease off or slightly speed up going down an hill and hold accelerator steady on the up hill you will get good mileage. If you watch carefully, you will notice the slightest over pressure on the gas pedal will greatly lower you fuel economy. A light foot can increase your mileage quite a bit whether on the open road or in town. I seldom care, since I run mine hard and use 93 oct to get full ecu advance and shift points, but when I am bored I play with the IMI gauge. Can sometimes get over 30mpg on a long trip at 65-70 mph. Always better than using cruise control if you really, really need to ring out the mileage. Seems 1650 to 2000 rpm gets best in mine. Yes, I know using 93 oct costs more than the mileage will bring, but who cares in this type of car? It's a 5.0 R Spec for God's sakes.
 
2012 5.0 with 75k still gets 28+MPG when cruising 60MPH. Specific location is Bakersfield to Stockton, CA. I only travel at times without traffic. If I do the same trip at 75-80 I get 24 or less MPG. Tires make a BIG difference, if they are soft tread compound you will lose MPG. If hard compound (ie. Michelin Energy) at 35psi, you gain MPG. As for fuel, I only run premium, and was told it burns cleaner, reducing deposits.
 
2011 4.6, 125K miles, San Diego to Long Beach CA, roughly 100 miles, at night, almost alone on the FWY, cruise control set at 72mph, I reached 32.6mpg.
Our meter is darn accurate. I also filled gas upon arrival and on a calculator reached that exact number...
I only fill 87, new GoodYear Eagle 1 tires.
 
I have a 2010 V6 with just under 80 k miles. I keep a record everytime I fill the gas tank going back to day one. Normally I use regular although occassionally i have used a tank or two of premium.
The lifetime average for my car is 23.95 mpg. The maximum has been around 32 and the minimum 16.
I also have a 2015 Santa Fe and that gets lower mileage at 22.35 mpg for the lifetime so far.
By the way there is a steady but very gradual decline in the mileage as the car gets older
 
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