G70 US Availability?

[Ed Okin]

So nobody yell at me but I am somewhat disappointed in the G70 3.3T AWD after driving it at the dealer. I was anxiously excited to get one and drive one after driving a few other cars since discovering it back in January. Firstly, the car feels exponentially smaller than I had anticipated, and I know all the reviewers commented on how small it is in the back, but it truly is TINY in the back. Also, I just got this feeling of somewhat cheaper material when I was in it. I understand the segment it is in but if it's to compete with the likes of tried and tested luxury carmakers, I feel like it should have had more/better quality. For example, I'm truly astounded that the turn signals are not LED on this car. The cheapest Fords and Dodge cars have LED everywhere, and they look at every penny in the car. When I sit in other high production vehicles from other "lower end" brands, I don't get a wow feeling in this car. Has anyone else not been blown away when they finally test drove one?

Having sat in the rear seats at the auto show, I agree that rear seats are tight. This is really, in practicality, a 2 seater car, so far as adults are concerned.

With regard to what’s in the car, the 3.3T, especially in the Prestige and Sport trims has all the safety and tech stuff. I’d settle for 3.3T Advanced, except that those Nappa seats are better than anything that doesn’t have a BMW “M” badge.

I do think that the G70’s primary appeal is to people like me, who finally, after 30+ years in the working world, can now finally think about moving beyond the many Hyundais and Hondas in my past and get a car that has some niceties and some pop on the road. Not a super-overpriced “mid-life crisis” car, but a reasonably priced sporty luxury car for someone who’s looking to enter that segment.

Sure, given unlimited funds, the BMW M5 was easily the most appealing car to me at the auto show, but I’d rather use the $100K plus for something more practical, like a vacation home. 🏖

 

[jailer]

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Here they are on AutoTrader..... take your pick. Autotrader G70 Scroll Down

 

[Beefer]

Y’all sorry if this has been mentioned...I’ve been offline all weekend and I’m just home from an awesome Redskins v Dallas game and watching my local news. HOLY cow, I saw a G70 commercial come on! Never seen one...if this is old news so sorry. But I’m so happy to see it. Normally don’t even watch tv real time. Took a pic to prove it and Go skins

No...this is new news!!! Was it the one with the tennis player in it? If not...what was the theme, etc?

 

[Beefer]

I only glanced at a few reviews last week but all of them mentioned the same thing. He is talking about the back seat.

I know...and it’s not tiny by any means. If you are 6’...might be a bit tight. Toe room when the seat in front is all the way down is the big issue. Easily solvable for short trips.

 

[alabaaster]

No...this is new news!!! Was it the one with the tennis player in it? If not...what was the theme, etc?

This had no actors. It was a white G70 speeding around town. They didn’t show much of the car except it driving around in low lighting. The theme seems to focus on how fast it is. There was a quick shot of the interior. Made me want to see more of the car when it the commercial was over.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

I was thinking a 2018 Elantra Sport but everything left is a demo or been on the lot more than a year so I decided against it. Everything good comes out early 2019 so in the black hole of current choices I'm looking at the Sonata or maybe an Optima as the least of all evils. A 2019 mid-trim will be half the price of a 2.0 Elite G70 and full $30k less than a 3.3 Sport (not counting the winter wheels/tires I'd have to get within a month to continue driving the G70). If there are any new non-demo non-sitting-for-a-year 2018 models that might be even better. Obviously these aren't nearly as nice as the G70 but that's a lot of money and honestly my wife is so sick of the wait that I don't think she'll let me buy a Genesis anymore regardless. If we knew the timeline 3 months ago I could have got a temp car but after 3 months of me saying "2 more weeks" she's frustrated to the point of not wanting anything to do with the brand.

Who knows. Maybe Pugi will really get them in the next few days before I'm able to pick something else up and by some miracle things could turn around. Not holding my breath though.

Pretty sure Pugi is telling the truth:
My wife’s Design is due in sometime between Thursday and next Monday after an original due date of Nov 5.
Hang in there!

 

[Beefer]

This had no actors. It was a white G70 speeding around town. They didn’t show much of the car except it driving around in low lighting. The theme seems to focus on how fast it is. There was a quick shot of the interior. Made me want to see more of the car when it the commercial was over.

Genesis TV Commercial, 'Created to Ascend' [T1]

I also put it in the proper thread about adverts, etc.

 

[Drezz]

I noticed Glassman stickered the trunk with their name on the left. That shit won't fly for me. I'd ask them to remove that before taking final delivery. (I also replace dealership license plate frames - no free advertising)

And thanks for taking pictures!! I can't get enough of looking at this car.

Total pet peeve of mine--I can't believe the people who drive around with dealer license plate frames for years and years [as they fade and rot].

 

[alabaaster]

Total pet peeve of mine--I can't believe the people who drive around with dealer license plate frames for years and years [as they fade and rot].

100%. I tell them to take off all of their advertising before I leave the lot.

 

[EdP]

100%. I tell them to take off all of their advertising before I leave the lot.

I drive it home and put my own frame on. A stainless steel, thin frame, just plain. Some dealer stickers are just plain hideous.

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[devellis]

If you think the Mustang is fast, you might want to watch the Throttle House video of the Stinger vs, the Mustang. Yeah, I know the Stinger is not the G70 but is does share the same engine. Spoiler alert, the Stinger smoked it!

I've seen that video. The driver of the Mustang couldn't maintain traction on launch. As I recall, he was in the standard transmission model. The 10-speed automatic is consistently quicker, according to Road & Track. In Drag Strip Mode with the automatic, the car actually softens the rear suspension so that the weight can shift rearward and increase traction on launch. Plus, the automatic just does a better job of handiling all that torque from a dead stop. The AWD Stinger had a distinct advantage at launch. That's the only reason why the Mustang couldn't beat the Stinger. The driver of the Mustang even says as much, as I recall. After he got traction, he accelerated far quicker and would have overtaken the Stinger in short order had the race been even a little longer. In real-world driving, the useful acceleration of the Mustang far exceeds that of a Stinger or G70. Not to cast aspersions on the latter. They're genuinely quick cars. But having driven the Mustang, it's in another class as far as performance is concerned. It does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds with the automatic and 4.3 with the stick. The automatic has been clocked as 12.02 in the quarter mile. Those are seriously fast times.

But more importantly, the 460 HP and 420 Pound/feet of torque available from the normally-aspirated V8, coupled with 10 available gears in the automatic, mean that at just about any speed, there's tremendous power available. That was certainly what I experienced when I drove it.

Yes, there are disadvantages to the Mustang relative to the G70, plenty of them. But performance and handling aren't among those disadvantages in the top-trim stock versions of these two cars. The Mustang is a true performance car that has incrementally improved its appointments to a point where they approach those of more luxurious vehicles. The G70 is a sports-luxury sedan that represents a compromise between those two aspects, and a very appealing compromise at that.

 

[Beefer]

I've seen that video. The driver of the Mustang couldn't maintain traction on launch. As I recall, he was in the standard transmission model. The 10-speed automatic is consistently quicker, according to Road & Track. In Drag Strip Mode with the automatic, the car actually softens the rear suspension so that the weight can shift rearward and increase traction on launch. Plus, the automatic just does a better job of handiling all that torque from a dead stop. The AWD Stinger had a distinct advantage at launch. That's the only reason why the Mustang couldn't beat the Stinger. The driver of the Mustang even says as much, as I recall. After he got traction, he accelerated far quicker and would have overtaken the Stinger in short order had the race been even a little longer. In real-world driving, the useful acceleration of the Mustang far exceeds that of a Stinger or G70. Not to cast aspersions on the latter. They're genuinely quick cars. But having driven the Mustang, it's in another class as far as performance is concerned. It does 0-60 in 3.9 seconds with the automatic and 4.3 with the stick. The automatic has been clocked as 12.02 in the quarter mile. Those are seriously fast times.

But more importantly, the 460 HP and 420 Pound/feet of torque available from the normally-aspirated V8, coupled with 10 available gears in the automatic, mean that at just about any speed, there's tremendous power available. That was certainly what I experienced when I drove it.

Yes, there are disadvantages to the Mustang relative to the G70, plenty of them. But performance and handling aren't among those disadvantages in the top-trim stock versions of these two cars. The Mustang is a true performance car that has incrementally improved its appointments to a point where they approach those of more luxurious vehicles. The G70 is a sports-luxury sedan that represents a compromise between those two aspects, and a very appealing compromise at that.

Stinger won.

 

[mikemu30]

I only glanced at a few reviews last week but all of them mentioned the same thing. He is talking about the back seat.

Adults honestly can't sit back there for any extended period. All good as long as you have no plans for rear passengers.

 

[BrainDoc]

100%. I tell them to take off all of their advertising before I leave the lot.

I thought I was the only one that did this. I'm so glad to see others do this as well. Unless they at eoaying me handsomely, I'm not advertising for free.

 

[Drezz]

I thought I was the only one that did this. I'm so glad to see others do this as well. Unless they at eoaying me handsomely, I'm not advertising for free.

Some time ago, a family member managed to get a dealer frame from another town--that happened to have our family name (same name as dealer) + Lexus to fittingly adorn her RX300. Heh.

 

[devellis]

Stinger won.

Yes, against a car I'm not considering, i.e., a 6-speed Mustang. The automatic is listed by Car & Driver as faster to 60 by .4 seconds, which is an eternity is a race like that.

 

[g60_corrado_91]

Hopefully Genesis survives through all this. You would've thought they'd have learned from Kia's mistakes with the Stinger. The good news is that after several months of truly being available, I'm betting there will be deals to be had. The bad news is that while supposedly Hyundai will be able to honor the warranty IF Genesis wasn't around anymore, how many spare G70 parts will they have for repairs years down the road?

This is a worst case scenario. But I feel it is a valid question.

 

[pkarandi]

Hopefully Genesis survives through all this. You would've thought they'd have learned from Kia's mistakes with the Stinger. The good news is that after several months of truly being available, I'm betting there will be deals to be had. The bad news is that while supposedly Hyundai will be able to honor the warranty IF Genesis wasn't around anymore, how many spare G70 parts will they have for repairs years down the road?

This is a worst case scenario. But I feel it is a valid question.

I hear what you're saying, but I think this whole clusterf#$% will just seem like a little blip on the radar over the next decade or so. Currently, I'm sure it's costing them a lot of money, but Hyundai is well-funded enough that they will keep Genesis around for a LONG time regardless. They are exactly following the Japanese model that started in the 70's-80's.
1) come to market with MUCH cheaper products. Not good quality but so cheap that people will still buy
2) improve quality over time to where you become as, or more, reliable than the mainstream competitors
3) introduce premium line to make money across the market (financially), because no premium buyer will buy a Hyundai (or Honda/Toyota 30 years ago)

They won't want to leave all that money on the table by dropping Genesis, at least not until they give it 10-15 years. There is just too much money to be made in the premium segment.

Of course, I'm no industry insider. This is just how I see it...

 

[mikemu30]

Hopefully Genesis survives through all this. You would've thought they'd have learned from Kia's mistakes with the Stinger. The good news is that after several months of truly being available, I'm betting there will be deals to be had. The bad news is that while supposedly Hyundai will be able to honor the warranty IF Genesis wasn't around anymore, how many spare G70 parts will they have for repairs years down the road?

This is a worst case scenario. But I feel it is a valid question.

Completely valid question not to mention the future FMV of the vehicle.

 

[joschneider]

Found out a lot of info today from my local dealer. None of it good, and honestly it would exhaust me to type it all out. Basically just how we all know, genesis really dropped the ball and continues to drop the ball in regards to communication with their dealers. They have a giant list of cars ready to sell, and they can’t get genesis to respond. Don’t know if the issue is that there’s a delay in manufacturing, shipping to the US or if the cars are at port and haven’t been scanned into systems. They just don’t know. They’ve been great to me through this though and I appreciated them being honest with me but damn if this isn’t killing me slowly and turning my hair even more white