Smart Cruise Control Response - Missing Setting

[Gebop]

I'm trying to figure out why I can no longer see the SCC Response setting in the display settings. I did some searching here and someone questioned whether the '15-'16 cars had this capability, but unless I'm losing it, I do seem to recall going through the settings, but after my BSD system went out of calibration and is now disabled, I can no longer see the setting which were under User Settings > Driving Assist > Smart Cruise Control Response > Slow/Normal/Fast.

Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion?

 

[Monkey]

I'm trying to figure out why I can no longer see the SCC Response setting in the display settings. I did some searching here and someone questioned whether the '15-'16 cars had this capability, but unless I'm losing it, I do seem to recall going through the settings, but after my BSD system went out of calibration and is now disabled, I can no longer see the setting which were under User Settings > Driving Assist > Smart Cruise Control Response > Slow/Normal/Fast.

Anyone else experience this or have a suggestion?

I have scc in my 16’ Ultimate 5.0 but I haven’t noticed these settings. I’ll have to look.

 

[Suburbazine]

I have never seen these settings in my '15.

Response time is only controlled by the follow distance setting (closer is faster).

 

[Monkey]

I have scc in my 16’ Ultimate 5.0 but I haven’t noticed these settings. I’ll have to look.

Just went out to the car and I don’t have(or can’t find) these “slow/normal/fast” settings. It’s a Canadian car if that makes any difference. Sorry I can’t help.

 

[EdP]

I have never seen these settings in my '15.

Response time is only controlled by the follow distance setting (closer is faster).

I have them on my '18 but do not recall ever having them on my '15.

 

[Gebop]

Thanks everyone. Not Canadian - so not US vs. Canadian. Must be losing it, but I really thought I went through those settings in the car...

Wanted to reset them as I thought I had a set to ‘fast’ and wanted to try ‘slow’ as last trip my girlfriend was getting panic attacks from the SCC late hard braking - to the point where I can’t use it anywhere, save for wide open highway driving.

Read someone else here had the same issue. Really unnerving for passenger; especially when you are in the left lane and they can see the chain of breaking taillights are the car is not slowing down.

 

[In-House Bob]

My 16 only allows for setting the following distance. Mine is set at the maximum and feels comfortable to me and my passenger.

 

[Monkey]

Thanks everyone. Not Canadian - so not US vs. Canadian. Must be losing it, but I really thought I went through those settings in the car...

Wanted to reset them as I thought I had a set to ‘fast’ and wanted to try ‘slow’ as last trip my girlfriend was getting panic attacks from the SCC late hard braking - to the point where I can’t use it anywhere, save for wide open highway driving.

Read someone else here had the same issue. Really unnerving for passenger; especially when you are in the left lane and they can see the chain of breaking taillights are the car is not slowing down.

My driving is always unnerving for my passengers!,

 

[EdP]

Read someone else here had the same issue. Really unnerving for passenger; especially when you are in the left lane and they can see the chain of breaking taillights are the car is not slowing down.

That is the downside of automation. As an experienced driver, you see the lights in the distance so you ease up on the gas. The sensors don't think, just react at a given distance. Much as I like and use SCC, there are time I heat the brake before the computer would.

 

[In-House Bob]

That is the downside of automation. As an experienced driver, you see the lights in the distance so you ease up on the gas. The sensors don't think, just react at a given distance. Much as I like and use SCC, there are time I heat the brake before the computer would.

If traffic ahead is full stop or close to it, you would have to, for sure. There is no replacement for an attentive driver... yet.

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[Gebop]

That is the downside of automation. As an experienced driver, you see the lights in the distance so you ease up on the gas. The sensors don't think, just react at a given distance. Much as I like and use SCC, there are time I heat the brake before the computer would.

Funny enough, I was vindicated by my girlfriend's sister who has a Tesla that behaves similarly. Think I will start using the non-smart cruise going forward.

Do you find those slow/normal/fast SCC settings make a meaningful difference?

 

[Mcc]

If traffic ahead is full stop or close to it, you would have to, for sure.

Why is that? The SCC will slow you down and get you stopped as long as it can see far enough ahead.

 

[EdP]

Funny enough, I was vindicated by my girlfriend's sister who has a Tesla that behaves similarly. Think I will start using the non-smart cruise going forward.

Do you find those slow/normal/fast SCC settings make a meaningful difference?

They certainly do for acceleration. Many times I thought my 2015 was slow to recover if you changed lanes or the car in front turned off. My 18 is much better.

 

[In-House Bob]

I haven't had the chance to test my theory and I might be all wet. But if you have the setting to keep a following distance of say 150 feet and you are going 70 miles per hour (all of this hypothetical and probably not accurate) on a road with no traffic in front of you and come up on a car that is stopped in your lane, I don't think your cruise control would stop you in time. It expects to see cars ahead slowing and it reacts to that. But if one appears out of the blue, when does it react? How far ahead does it watch? For that matter, how far ahead does the sensor pick up if something wanders into the road ahead and make an emergency stop?

 

[Mr. Incredible]

Why is that? The SCC will slow you down and get you stopped as long as it can see far enough ahead.

in my experience, it depends on how far ahead and how long the car ahead has been stopped. on the highway at speed (light traffic) I keep the sonar at 4 bars, and on more than one occasion the traffic ahead has come to a stop outside of that range and the car DID NOT slow down because it never picked up the stopped car in front of me.. Once I nearly rear ended the stopped car waiting for the system to react, it did not, I locked up the brakes insofar as locking up ABS. and the Collison avoidance alarm sounded, but the car still doing full set speed when I finally reacted, and I fully believe it would have slammed into that car had I not.

the sonar expects to see moving and slowing vehicles, it does not react to stopped traffic if that traffic was stopped before entering the range set.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

I haven't had the chance to test my theory and I might be all wet. But if you have the setting to keep a following distance of say 150 feet and you are going 70 miles per hour (all of this hypothetical and probably not accurate) on a road with no traffic in front of you and come up on a car that is stopped in your lane, I don't think your cruise control would stop you in time. It expects to see cars ahead slowing and it reacts to that. But if one appears out of the blue, when does it react? How far ahead does it watch? For that matter, how far ahead does the sensor pick up if something wanders into the road ahead and make an emergency stop?

exactly my experience, the vehicle will not stop in time, it does not detect the stopped traffic if the stopped traffic is outside the range set, only if the vehicle in front of you was in range and slowed to a stop, even an abrupt stop, the car will react, though not fast enough in my opinion.

people need to realize this is CRUISE CONTROL, not auto pilot or auto driving.

 

[Suburbazine]

The specs for SCC explicitly call out that it CAN NOT determine a stopped object in its path. Same for a tracked object changing lanes and putting a stopped object in your path. If it has a greater than 10mph variance from your speed, SCC will most likely not detect it.

 

[Kon]

2nd Gen doesn't have those settings. You must've watched a video on the 2017+ or something.

Also, if your SCC is braking late and hard to the point where it's frightening someone it's either broken or you're using it in ways Hyundai didn't intend. As others have said, SCC is not capable of reacting safely to a vehicle that it approaches with a high speed variance. It will slam into stopped traffic or significantly slower cars if you approach them without the radar already being locked onto one.