Tires,Tires

[John Lipari]

Tires wearing out fast and I would like to get help picking new tires. The Dunlap 5000 are very very quiet tires,I like that. I hear more tire noise from the car next to me then my car. I don't want to screw up and buy a tire that lasts longer but make too much noise. Please tell me what tire you purchsed and how quiet it is. Does anyone know whats on the 2010"s. How many miles did you get on the first tires? Thanks for any info you can give me.

 

[Nabber]

Re: Tires,Tires,Tires

Tires wearing out fast and I would like to get help picking new tires. The Dunlap 5000 are very very quiet tires,I like that. I hear more tire noise from the car next to me then my car. I don't want to screw up and buy a tire that lasts longer but make too much noise. Please tell me what tire you purchsed and how quiet it is. Does anyone know whats on the 2010"s. How many miles did you get on the first tires? Thanks for any info you can give me.

That's the thing; people say these tires really suck in all sorts of ways but I'm happy with them. I can not get them to squeal around corners (on-ramp at 55 mph), they are quiet, and are great in the rain. Maybe their mileage is their main weakness. I only have 7500 miles so far so too early to tell for me.

 

[TJPark01]

Re: Tires,Tires,Tires

I like the tires as well. I think the issue people have with them is the same as with the Genesis in general, that they try to be all things to all people. The proverbial jack of all trades master of nothing syndrome. The Dunlops lean toward the sporty side, but are not pure performance tires. They say all season, but they aren't very good in the snow. They are comfortable but not like a GT tire.

 

[crhbobby]

Are there any all seasons out there that will do decent in the snow? I have always had front wheel drive, and have gotten around fine before. I am still trying to decide if I should give these tires a shot in the snow or just upgrade now to a better all season tire. A friend of mine really likes his Pilot Sport A/S Plus on his Bonneville GXP. (same 18" wheel size as the Genesis). He has not experienced snow with them yet.

Thanks

 

[TJPark01]

Are there any all seasons out there that will do decent in the snow?

Depends... DO you live in a place where winter is long and unforgiving? Is the car owned or leased, what type of driver are you, etc. Ideally you want to swap out tires for the winter like they do in Europe. If you don't have a garage to store the rubber than this becomes an issue. Also , I lived in Jersey where it snowed only a couple times a year and most of it melted pretty quick due to our coastal location. Putting snow tires on a car for a month didn't seem logical to me, so for that month , I would try and be super careful

 

[Stwood]

Tires wearing out fast and I would like to get help picking new tires. The Dunlap 5000 are very very quiet tires,I like that. I hear more tire noise from the car next to me then my car. I don't want to screw up and buy a tire that lasts longer but make too much noise. Please tell me what tire you purchsed and how quiet it is. Does anyone know whats on the 2010"s. How many miles did you get on the first tires? Thanks for any info you can give me.

How many miles is fast?

 

[SUNCITYMES]

Since I live in Canada.....and have to deal with the snow....I did some research on the Dunlops on Tirerack.com and they were rated 23rd out of 25 tires in their category. So needless to say I have to buy tires for the winter. The Dunlops say M-S on them....obviously that shouldn't stand for mud and snow!!!!!!!! From what I remember the snow and ice rating on Tirerack was 2-3 out of 10. I'm looking to purchase some Falken Eurowinter HS439 tires but can't find any info on them.....so we'll see what happens. I have to say that I’m quite surprised that Hyundai choose such a weak all around tire for their flagship vehicle.

Since we're on the subject of tires.....does anybody know anything about the TPMS (tire pressure monitoring system)? The owners manual doesn't say a lot about it. I'm assuming that I have it since I have the Tech package but the icon doesn't light up when I start the car so I’m taking it in for some warranty work and will have them look into it.

 

[sfu88]

I looked into the TPMS in the Canadian version of Genesis when I first got mine. I can confirm that the Canadian version does not come TPMS even with Tech package.

 

[QCTLG]

What is needed for us Canadians to have this going?
Could it be just a fuse missing?
OR
Is it way more complicated to do.

Thanks

 

[Bernie]

It is much more than just a fuse. Active TPMS involves a set of 4 sensors (which replace the standard valves), one for each of your tires. A full set of sensors cost over $100 - $200. Each of these sensors is paired with a small wireless transmitter that periodically transmits tire pressure information to a receiver mounted somewhere in the car. If you plan to change to winter tires, you need to unmount the TPMS valves from your summer tires and re-mount them on your winter tires; note that the sensors often get damaged when they are re-mounted. Many folks end up damaging these sensors... a costly proposition. If you plan to have a second set of wheels for winter, then you'll have to fork out a second set of sensors for your winter tires. Futhermore, each time you swap your wheels (late fall and spring), you need to go to a Hyundai dealer to reprogram the TPMS system to "recognize" your other set of sensors... again, a rather costly proposition. Failure to fix a brocken TPMS sensor or failure to reprogram the system results in a persistant warning/fault on your dashboard.

So, I really think that the fact we don't have active TPMS in the Canadian Genesis is actually a blessing. While I can't actually confirm this, I believe that the Canadian Genesis uses the so-called "passive TMPS" approach. With Electronic Stability Control as a standard feature of the car, the on-board computer is able to detect small variances in wheel diameter (by tracking wheel rotation) induced by changes in tire pressure. The disadvantage of the passive approach is that it cannot detect the case where all 4 tires are equally deflated; however this is a rather degenerate case, which, in my opinion, is not worth the hassle of having the "superior" active TPMS.

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[ctrcbob]

It is much more than just a fuse. Active TPMS involves a set of 4 sensors (which replace the standard valves), one for each of your tires. A full set of sensors cost over $100 - $200. Each of these sensors is paired with a small wireless transmitter that periodically transmits tire pressure information to a receiver mounted somewhere in the car. If you plan to change to winter tires, you need to unmount the TPMS valves from your summer tires and re-mount them on your winter tires; note that the sensors often get damaged when they are re-mounted. Many folks end up damaging these sensors... a costly proposition. If you plan to have a second set of wheels for winter, then you'll have to fork out a second set of sensors for your winter tires. Futhermore, each time you swap your wheels (late fall and spring), you need to go to a Hyundai dealer to reprogram the TPMS system to "recognize" your other set of sensors... again, a rather costly proposition. Failure to fix a brocken TPMS sensor or failure to reprogram the system results in a persistant warning/fault on your dashboard.

So, I really think that the fact we don't have active TPMS in the Canadian Genesis is actually a blessing. While I can't actually confirm this, I believe that the Canadian Genesis uses the so-called "passive TMPS" approach. With Electronic Stability Control as a standard feature of the car, the on-board computer is able to detect small variances in wheel diameter (by tracking wheel rotation) induced by changes in tire pressure. The disadvantage of the passive approach is that it cannot detect the case where all 4 tires are equally deflated; however this is a rather degenerate case, which, in my opinion, is not worth the hassle of having the "superior" active TPMS.

Just read the exact same thing in Consumer Reports.

 

[GripperDon]

I have had all three. Nothing but ESC, The Murano said which tire is low and the Altima said A tire was low. Never have found that more information is a bad thing and it saved me going around unscrewing valve caps, testing pressure, replacing caps and then having to determine which was the lowest and adding pressure and restarting the car, drive it a bit and seeing if the alert went out and worst of all if two tires were low the hassle was terrible.

The ESC only requires you to live in the dark, and requires lots of tire testing.

With the which tire indicating system, the hassle was severely reduced.

When I do tire rotation I do "TIRE" rotation not wheel rotation, so the senders are retained with their paired receivers. My tire dealer accomidates my desires as i buy tires and road hazard insurance from him. So all the other stuff is IMO irrelevant, I love the specific tire indicating system.

 

[GripperDon]

Since I live in Canada.....and have to deal with the snow....I did some research on the Dunlops on Tirerack.com and they were rated 23rd out of 25 tires in their category. So needless to say I have to buy tires for the winter. The Dunlops say M-S on them.....


I think that means Mushy and Slippery.

 

[John Lipari]

I think they picked the 5000's because they are quiet,I live in NJ,near the coast,snows two or three times a year. I do not want to listen to a hum or buz as I drive down the road. Please,I need to hear from people that have replaced thier tires,what kind and how much noise do the make. I will be lucky to get 30,000 miles.

 

[Sayantsi]

I've never been a big fan of Dunlops - I've always found them poor performing and riding tires, and with that, I'd look at the Bridgestone or Kumho tires on Tire Rack.

If you live in an area with definitive winter and summer weather, I'd pick up a second set of rims and just go with dedicated winter and summer tires since that will give you the best performance for each season - all seasons are always a compromise.

 

[Flyboy]

All good information posted here - thanks!

The stock tires are not good in the wet and that is not good in the Northwest. Using all the suggestions here, I did the research and found that the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season (A/S) Plus was a top ranked Ultra High Performance All-Season tire which kind of surprised me - was suspecting the Eagle GT or Pirelli Nero would be the answer before the research. Consumer Reports was a help but not as complete as Tirerack.com, which was the easiest search engine I found if you want to look. Some examples of how Stock 5000's and the Pilot Plus compared - Hydroplaning Stock 5.6 out of 10, Pilot 8.8 - Noise Comfort Stock 6.7, Pilot 8.1 - Treadwear Stock 5.8, Pilot 8.8...and so on. I am riding on them now and it is an outstanding improvement. Thanks again for all the information!

 

[GripperDon]

The goodyear assurance comfort treads are very satisfactory.

 

[SUNCITYMES]

I just bought a set of winter tires and rims from Tire Rack. I decided.....after doing a few days of research, that the 17" rims and tires were a much better route.....and I probably saved $500 Cdn over the 18" rims and tires. I bought 225/55R-17 BRIDGESTONE BLIZZAK WS60 AND ELBRUS 104 RIMS. Seems to make sense doing a package deal and saves the hassle to mounting and re-mounting winter and summer tires. And as Sfu88 said....the Genesis Canadian versions don't have TPMS which saves a lot of extra work and cash. Should be here in another 5 days and with how cold it just turned here looks like I'll need them sooner then later!

 

[JOwest]

All good information posted here - thanks!

The stock tires are not good in the wet and that is not good in the Northwest. Using all the suggestions here, I did the research and found that the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season (A/S) Plus was a top ranked Ultra High Performance All-Season tire which kind of surprised me - was suspecting the Eagle GT or Pirelli Nero would be the answer before the research. Consumer Reports was a help but not as complete as Tirerack.com, which was the easiest search engine I found if you want to look. Some examples of how Stock 5000's and the Pilot Plus compared - Hydroplaning Stock 5.6 out of 10, Pilot 8.8 - Noise Comfort Stock 6.7, Pilot 8.1 - Treadwear Stock 5.8, Pilot 8.8...and so on. I am riding on them now and it is an outstanding improvement. Thanks again for all the information!

I have the Pilot Sport AS on my Audi A6 and the tires can handle 10" snow without any problem. The Dunlop on my Gen spin too easily when the road is wet. This is especially tricky when you try to make a left turn when it rains.

 

[mk1]

I have the Pilot Sport AS on my Audi A6 and the tires can handle 10" snow without any problem. The Dunlop on my Gen spin too easily when the road is wet. This is especially tricky when you try to make a left turn when it rains.

I'm guessing your A6 is either front or all wheel drive???

I ran the Pilot Sport AS tires on my Lincoln LS (rear wheel) and they will NOT get you through 10 inches of snow safely.

Putting in an order today for the Blizzak's and new rims.