Adaptive suspension on 2015 Genesis Ultimate

[sandwich]

Hi folks, I've been shopping for a 2015 Genesis V8 ultimate for some time, mostly because of the phenomenal quality for the price that you get. I noticed that in 2015, the V8 Ultimate package came with adaptive dampers, but it looks like in 2016 and in G80 models, they did away with them. Anybody know why that is? The 3.8 ultimate package did not include them either for the same year.

Just wondering as I shop if these are something to be avoided or not. V8 ultimates are really hard to find, regular V8s or V6 ultimates are more plentiful. When the time comes, I'd love to jump on the opportunity to buy one.

 

[SuperKing]

Rumor is that it was expensive to maintain so they scrapped it. What makes more sense to me is when the 2015 Genesis came out, the 5.0 Ultimate was supposed to be the sporty one but decided to move in a different direction. They decided the 5.0 was to be the top of the line cushy one with the big lazy motor. The 2017 G80 Sport replaced the 2015 5.0 as the sporty model so that got the adaptive suspension. It's not unreliable or anything, they just went a different direction for the G80 lineup.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

Hi folks, I've been shopping for a 2015 Genesis V8 ultimate for some time, mostly because of the phenomenal quality for the price that you get. I noticed that in 2015, the V8 Ultimate package came with adaptive dampers, but it looks like in 2016 and in G80 models, they did away with them. Anybody know why that is? The 3.8 ultimate package did not include them either for the same year.

Just wondering as I shop if these are something to be avoided or not. V8 ultimates are really hard to find, regular V8s or V6 ultimates are more plentiful. When the time comes, I'd love to jump on the opportunity to buy one.

I agree with SuperKing, its not unreliable. They just went a different direction. I have a 15 5.0 Ultimate and just absolutely love the car. Good luck in finding one.. You say the 5.0 Ultimates are hard to come by in a 2015? If thats what you really want. Wait for the right one , you won't be disappointed!

 

[SuperKing]

If you don't mind it being in KM, buy a Canadian car... all 5.0 models are Ultimates. Unfortunately, all 2015-2016 Genesis models were also AWD so if you want RWD, you're out of luck... lol... the only RWD models were the first gen and G70. The Koreans must think it snows everywhere here... lol

 

[carguy75]

Hi folks, I've been shopping for a 2015 Genesis V8 ultimate for some time, mostly because of the phenomenal quality for the price that you get. I noticed that in 2015, the V8 Ultimate package came with adaptive dampers, but it looks like in 2016 and in G80 models, they did away with them. Anybody know why that is? The 3.8 ultimate package did not include them either for the same year.

Just wondering as I shop if these are something to be avoided or not. V8 ultimates are really hard to find, regular V8s or V6 ultimates are more plentiful. When the time comes, I'd love to jump on the opportunity to buy one.

Well ,my 2015 5.0 Ultimate active suspension is still working fine 5 years later with about 73k miles on it. However, my only concern is the price of the active shocks which range from about $500-700 each online and are OEM parts only. I have not found any aftermarket replacements. So replacement cost will be a factor after about 100k miles when the shocks wear out like any other shock.

Other than potential replacement cost; the system rides great in both sport and normal mode to me so I am glad I have the active suspension in my Genesis.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

Well ,my 2015 5.0 Ultimate active suspension is still working fine 5 years later with about 73k miles on it. However, my only concern is the price of the active shocks which range from about $500-700 each online and are OEM parts only. I have not found any aftermarket replacements. So replacement cost will be a factor after about 100k miles when the shocks wear out like any other shock.

Other than potential replacement cost; the system rides great in both sport and normal mode to me so I am glad I have the active suspension in my Genesis.

I am with you Carguy75, the car does ride nice and the ride in sport mode is just right. IMO.

 

[sandwich]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback. I'll keep my eyes peeled for a 5.0 (or maybe even a G80 sport) when the time comes around...

 

[skipgen]

I am with you Carguy75, the car does ride nice and the ride in sport mode is just right. IMO.

I love mine... Sometimes I do wish for some more adjustability - like being able to have the shocks in Sport and the transmission in Normal mode for example.

I just cracked 83k and the shocks are operating normally...

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

I love mine... Sometimes I do wish for some more adjustability - like being able to have the shocks in Sport and the transmission in Normal mode for example.

I just cracked 83k and the shocks are operating normally...

That Is nice to know. I just cracked 38k and the car seems better everytime I drive the car. That would be nice to have the sport ride without the downshift or dropping a gear. Love my 5.0 Ultimate.

I love mine... Sometimes I do wish for some more adjustability - like being able to have the shocks in Sport and the transmission in Normal mode for example.

I just cracked 83k and the shocks are operating normally...

 

[jimmy buoy]

If you don't mind it being in KM, buy a Canadian car... all 5.0 models are Ultimates. Unfortunately, all 2015-2016 Genesis models were also AWD so if you want RWD, you're out of luck... lol... the only RWD models were the first gen and G70. The Koreans must think it snows everywhere here... lol

The AWD isn't just for snow anymore. It provides some real performance boosts in real world conditions like cornering under power, accelerating on a less than smooth road, and sure-footedness in rainy conditions. I've had the 5.0 with RWD and now AWD and wouldn't go back to RWD again - Our frost heaved, poorly maintained roads and cool rainy days with slippery leaves really highlights the differences. Florida... not so much.

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[carguy75]

The AWD isn't just for snow anymore. It provides some real performance boosts in real world conditions like cornering under power, accelerating on a less than smooth road, and sure-footedness in rainy conditions. I've had the 5.0 with RWD and now AWD and wouldn't go back to RWD again - Our frost heaved, poorly maintained roads and cool rainy days with slippery leaves really highlights the differences. Florida... not so much.

That why I just bought some high performance summer tires, which increased the traction in the rain and gave my RWD so serious grip on dry roads. Plus, I have two less drive-train component to worry about as the car ages. Front differentials/transfer-cases has seals and bearings that goes bad as well. Trust me, sometimes it is best to have fewer components to deal with over time.

However, I live in Georgia so no real need for AWD in my area other than some performance gains on wet roads which gripper summer tires can handle. I have an AWD SUV with some ground clearance for those few Georgia winters that may be bad enough for snow and ice.

 

[carguy75]

I love mine... Sometimes I do wish for some more adjustability - like being able to have the shocks in Sport and the transmission in Normal mode for example.

I just cracked 83k and the shocks are operating normally...

I agree, more user controls for the drive modes would make the older system perfect in my 2015. I like the firmer shock settings in Sport which is more like a "Track" setting in other cars I driven, however I can see why Hyundai softened the Sport setting in 2017 to be more luxury/sporty-like and not ride harsh like a Mustang GT in Sport/Track mode which probably turned off some owners who still wanted a luxury ride even in Sport mode.

I believe that giving the owners more control over the drive mode settings could have solved that issue by letting the owner customize the firmness or softness of the shocks and shifts.

 

[GMonee16]

I love mine... Sometimes I do wish for some more adjustability - like being able to have the shocks in Sport and the transmission in Normal mode for example.

I just cracked 83k and the shocks are operating normally...

This will give you the adjustability you are seeking

Mando ECS10 Suspension Control

Plug ‘n play device for the Kia Stinger, Genesis G70 and Genesis G80 with an Electronically Controlled Suspension. Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure.

kdmwarehouse.com

 

[carguy75]

This will give you the adjustability you are seeking

Mando ECS10 Suspension Control

Plug ‘n play device for the Kia Stinger, Genesis G70 and Genesis G80 with an Electronically Controlled Suspension. Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure.

kdmwarehouse.com

Perfect, except that I have to use a phone or tablet. But still does the job.

Note: It seems that Hyundai just cut back the total amount of stock damping on the newer systems, while the older system is probably allowed to dampen more than 60%.

 

[skipgen]

Perfect, except that I have to use a phone or tablet. But still does the job.

Note: It seems that Hyundai just cut back the total amount of stock damping on the newer systems, while the older system is probably allowed to dampen more than 60%.

"Sport" on the 2015 is pretty stiff for this car's "mission"... Can't really use it much in Houston anyway - it's been said that NASA should test the next Lunar Rover on some of our streets.

 

[carguy75]

"Sport" on the 2015 is pretty stiff for this car's "mission"... Can't really use it much in Houston anyway - it's been said that NASA should test the next Lunar Rover on some of our streets.

LOL. I remember hitting a rough patch in the road when I first bought my Genesis and it made a very hard"thump" noise. I thought I broke my damn car at first, however it handled the bump fairly well aside from the noise. My other cars over the years used to get a little loose and bit unsettle when I hit that same patch of road, however the Genesis takes it like a champ.

I now just keep my car in ECO mode when I use that road and it takes the bump well still but without the hard jarring bumping. ECO/Normal drive mode handles pretty good as well to be honest. Sport mode is a just a beast with the right tires, but it will get rock hard to damper rough bumps for better body control.

 

[skipgen]

LOL. I remember hitting a rough patch in the road when I first bought my Genesis and it made a very hard"thump" noise. I thought I broke my damn car at first, however it handled the bump fairly well aside from the noise. My other cars over the years used to get a little loose and bit unsettle when I hit that same patch of road, however the Genesis takes it like a champ.

I now just keep my car in ECO mode when I use that road and it takes the bump well still but without the hard jarring bumping. ECO/Normal drive mode handles pretty good as well to be honest. Sport mode is a just a beast with the right tires, but it will get rock hard to damper rough bumps for better body control.

Yeah... I just leave it in "normal" 99% of the time. For a big 'ol tub, it's pretty balanced - good thing that they brought in Lotus for a final sorting.

 

[Wade West]

This will give you the adjustability you are seeking

Mando ECS10 Suspension Control

Plug ‘n play device for the Kia Stinger, Genesis G70 and Genesis G80 with an Electronically Controlled Suspension. Stock damping force is set at only 60% of what the suspension can use. This module allows you to use 100% – even on “uneven” roads. It automatically detects the damping pressure.

kdmwarehouse.com

Do you have to go to your smartphone every time you want to change from Comfort (when the wife is in the car) to Sport (when I'm "playing") Have a 2020 g70 3.3

 

[skipgen]

Do you have to go to your smartphone every time you want to change from Comfort (when the wife is in the car) to Sport (when I'm "playing") Have a 2020 g70 3.3

That's a PITA - I'll just stick with stock.

 

[Wade West]

That's a PITA - I'll just stick with stock.

Got the same answer at the KIA Stinger forum. It's way too much trouble! Thanks for your help.