2nd Generation Purchase help

[gscmc]

I am looking at a low mileage (<30K) 2016 ultimate AWD. I have had many cars and my current one is the nicest car I have owned. What's holding me back is I do read about a lot of nuisance problems on the 15 models. Not so sure about the 16. My car has been a solid performer with 83k miles, not a rattle or squeak anywhere. I am very impressed by how tight this car has remained after almost 10 years on the road, albeit relatively low mileage. My only issues were one failed parking sensor on front bumper, moon roof cracked guide rail, and I did have the transmission replaced under warranty at 79K due too hard shifts from 2nd to 3rd gear. That did not bother me so much because many 8 speed gear boxes can have this issue. The main thing is that Hyundai didn't give any issues and replaced it hassle free as well as the moon roof repair. I bought the car as a used CPO and purchased the platinum wrap for about 2K. So far, I am ahead by quite a bit since the tranny is easily 4k and the roof about 1500. But my insurance is just up this month with exception of the power train warranty which sunsets in August 2022. Can anyone say how the 15-16 generation compares to 12-14 model years regarding reliability and fit and finish? Thanks all for the great info and experience sharing. I love reading all of these posts, much expertise and insight is gained and its fun.

 

[Marc C]

Check Consumer Reports. I believe they panned the 2015 fo rreliability and said things were mostly fixed on the 2016. But I don't remember clearly. I just got a 2018 2 days ago after a ton of research and soul searching. So far, I love it. It's the same car, basically, with more features.

 

[gscmc]

Check Consumer Reports. I believe they panned the 2015 fo rreliability and said things were mostly fixed on the 2016. But I don't remember clearly. I just got a 2018 2 days ago after a ton of research and soul searching. So far, I love it. It's the same car, basically, with more features.

Thanks for the reply best of luck on your 18 Genesis! That's what I found in my research about the 2015's. I am also looking at some 18 and 19's. Not very easy to find, they are all (15-20) nice looking vehicles and loaded with features. I think the problem with me is, I have no real reason to trade in my 2012 Genesis. The car is pristine and runs great. Funny thing today after my post this morning, I drove about 50 miles out, got gas and the car barely started (its cold here) so I found a parts store and drove out to them. When I parked the car, it wouldn't start again. The battery was finished. I bought this car almost 7 years ago as stated above and it was about 2.5 years old then with 14k on it. So quite possibly this was the original battery, which makes it almost 10 years old. Pretty amazing.
Charlie

 

[Marc C]

I would’ve kept my 2009 myself, which I’m donating to charity in a few days, but it started having weird problems which I won’t go into in detail, that kept it from being able to pass a smog test no matter what.
I definitely noticed the difference between the 2018 and the 2009, but it’s incremental rather than something that rules out either car. It just feels more solid and more smooth and of course has a gazillion more features.
If you are excited by the notion of a new car and you have the bucks, why not? If you’re expecting it to be a life-changing event or creates any difficulty in life to spring for the new one, then why?
Those are my thoughts. Feel free to ask me any detailed questions about the cars if that will help.
Marc

 

[gscmc]

I would’ve kept my 2009 myself, which I’m donating to charity in a few days, but it started having weird problems which I won’t go into in detail, that kept it from being able to pass a smog test no matter what.
I definitely noticed the difference between the 2018 and the 2009, but it’s incremental rather than something that rules out either car. It just feels more solid and more smooth and of course has a gazillion more features.
If you are excited by the notion of a new car and you have the bucks, why not? If you’re expecting it to be a life-changing event or creates any difficulty in life to spring for the new one, then why?
Those are my thoughts. Feel free to ask me any detailed questions about the cars if that will help.
Marc

No issue spending for it other than being a fickle buyer on big purchases. My kids say (YOLO) and just do it. Its a strange market, higher prices but decent trade in value which is what I would do. My last 3 cars have not been new, always 2-3 years old. The 16 kind of doubles that rule but low mileage and the model is almost identical from 15-20. However, I had better decide soon, someone will scoop it up. Thank you again for your advice, comments and time to reply. Really appreciate it!

 

[Marc C]

No issue spending for it other than being a fickle buyer on big purchases. My kids say (YOLO) and just do it. Its a strange market, higher prices but decent trade in value which is what I would do. My last 3 cars have not been new, always 2-3 years old. The 16 kind of doubles that rule but low mileage and the model is almost identical from 15-20. However, I had better decide soon, someone will scoop it up. Thank you again for your advice, comments and time to reply. Really appreciate it!

 

[Marc C]

Best of luck to you. I started off looking for a bargain and found one with 40,000 miles, and then switched to getting the car that seemed like the best car, which had 15,000 miles and cost $7000 more. I’m happy about switching gears. I think the low mileage is much more important than which year it is when it comes to the same batch of Genesis.

 

[carguy75]

I am looking at a low mileage (<30K) 2016 ultimate AWD. I have had many cars and my current one is the nicest car I have owned. What's holding me back is I do read about a lot of nuisance problems on the 15 models. Not so sure about the 16. My car has been a solid performer with 83k miles, not a rattle or squeak anywhere. I am very impressed by how tight this car has remained after almost 10 years on the road, albeit relatively low mileage. My only issues were one failed parking sensor on front bumper, moon roof cracked guide rail, and I did have the transmission replaced under warranty at 79K due too hard shifts from 2nd to 3rd gear. That did not bother me so much because many 8 speed gear boxes can have this issue. The main thing is that Hyundai didn't give any issues and replaced it hassle free as well as the moon roof repair. I bought the car as a used CPO and purchased the platinum wrap for about 2K. So far, I am ahead by quite a bit since the tranny is easily 4k and the roof about 1500. But my insurance is just up this month with exception of the power train warranty which sunsets in August 2022. Can anyone say how the 15-16 generation compares to 12-14 model years regarding reliability and fit and finish? Thanks all for the great info and experience sharing. I love reading all of these posts, much expertise and insight is gained and its fun.

I own a 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate. It does(did) have a few minor first model defect issues like the radio, sunroof rattle, taillight/camera issues due poorly mounted trunk wiring harness, and defective light switch. The radio and sunroof issues was repaired under warranty before I purchased my 2015 in 2018. The defective light switch is a recall fix, but I have not taking my car in to Hyundai to fix it since the light switch still works. I repaired my own trunk mounted wiring harness.

All said and done; the 2015 5.0 ultimate is still the best option out there even with its flaws. The 2015 5.0 Ultimate is the only way to get a true sport package(firmer active shocks than 2017+ models) and 420hp 5.0 engine together in one package with luxury wood interior trim. Yes, the later G80 sport models got the 3.3T V6 which can be modded to make more power and torque than the 5.0 V8. However, the reliability of those 3.3T engines with those mods in the long term is still questionable.

The 2015 5.0 V8 is rock solid reliable if long-term ownership if the goal while still having a quick car that handles well. I still can not find a newer car to sway me away from my 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate that does not cost $50k or more.

 

[gscmc]

I own a 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate. It does(did) have a few minor first model defect issues like the radio, sunroof rattle, taillight/camera issues due poorly mounted trunk wiring harness, and defective light switch. The radio and sunroof issues was repaired under warranty before I purchased my 2015 in 2018. The defective light switch is a recall fix, but I have not taking my car in to Hyundai to fix it since the light switch still works. I repaired my own trunk mounted wiring harness.

All said and done; the 2015 5.0 ultimate is still the best option out there even with its flaws. The 2015 5.0 Ultimate is the only way to get a true sport package(firmer active shocks than 2017+ models) and 420hp 5.0 engine together in one package with luxury wood interior trim. Yes, the later G80 sport models got the 3.3T V6 which can be modded to make more power and torque than the 5.0 V8. However, the reliability of those 3.3T engines with those mods in the long term is still questionable.

The 2015 5.0 V8 is rock solid reliable if long-term ownership if the goal while still having a quick car that handles well. I still can not find a newer car to sway me away from my 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate that does not cost $50k or more.

Thanks for the reply, the 5.0's are special. the larger wheels really finish the car off nicely and then you have that beast under the hood. I did find that in NY anyway insurance goes way up for the V8. When I asked them why, they said "more expensive to repair" for comprehensive coverage, auto body stuff? makes no sense. So I moved on to the 3.8 ultimate which had no appreciable insurance increase.

 

[carguy75]

Thanks for the reply, the 5.0's are special. the larger wheels really finish the car off nicely and then you have that beast under the hood. I did find that in NY anyway insurance goes way up for the V8. When I asked them why, they said "more expensive to repair" for comprehensive coverage, auto body stuff? makes no sense. So I moved on to the 3.8 ultimate which had no appreciable insurance increase.

Makes sense. The 5.0 ultimate does have some expensive options like the electronic shocks. Plus, higher horsepower models does raise insurance rates. The 3.8 Ultimate models are nice as well. Congrats.

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