2023 Genesis G90

[sirace]

Was your buying experience good, bad, or somewhere in between?

I didn't have a problem with it, but this is my first luxury purchase.

The closest before was my Kia K900, and although a very nice car, was still a Kia, leased at a general Kia dealership, so I've nothing to compare to.

I ordered via the Genesis Concierge/One program.

I went in, talked with the sales manager and met the service manager. I then talked with the finance team, signed my paperwork and was out of there in under 2 hours.

Hope that's helpful.

 

[YEH]

 

[G-962210]

Genesis is definitely going to make an EV version of the G90 like they did the G80, but you all better be prepared to pay over $100K+ for it.

as opposed to 99, 900

 

[iSOBigD]

Another video on it

I really love all the new changes. I wish we got the long wheelbase one and the cooler from the Equus, but otherwise it's such a great car. In Canada they just have the one choice with the E supercharger, and it's $115k all-in according to a dealer email. Still not bad compared to 150k+ for competitors if you add the rear seat package and a few things.

One thing I'm not clear on is, did they not include the leg or foot rest for the North American model? I haven't done a test drive yet.

 

[Mcc]

Another good video on it

I really love all the new changes. I wish we got the long wheelbase one and the cooler from the Equus, but otherwise it's such a great car. In Canada they just have the one choice with the E supercharger, and it's $115k all-in. Still not bad compared to 150k+ for competitors if you add the rear seat package and a few things.

Wrong video?

 

[iSOBigD]

Wrong video?

Yup lol

 

[9phil9]

With a 20% increase in price for the G90, I say no thank you to Genesis. That alone will kill the North American sales to the point Genesis my just give it up. We're not getting 20% more car.

 

[Mcc]

With a 20% increase in price for the G90, I say no thank you to Genesis. That alone will kill the North American sales to the point Genesis my just give it up. We're not getting 20% more car.

Maybe your car was priced 20% too low.

Also the dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.86% per yearbetween 2017 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 20.83%.

 

[Trixie86]

Maybe your car was priced 20% too low.

Also the dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.86% per yearbetween 2017 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 20.83%.

$100K + markup + tax 10.25% is a bit rich for me. I will reevaluate in a few years.

 

[9phil9]

Maybe your car was priced 20% too low.

Also the dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.86% per yearbetween 2017 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 20.83%.

I was referring to the 20% increase from 2022 to 2023. NOT 2017 to 2023. And you knew that. I also wasn't comparing the difference between the cars from 1952 to 2023. And you know that too. So please don't try to twist what I said into your negative agenda narrative.

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[SuperKing]

I was referring to the 20% increase from 2022 to 2023. NOT 2017 to 2023. And you knew that. I also wasn't comparing the difference between the cars from 1952 to 2023. And you know that too. So please don't try to twist what I said into your negative agenda narrative.

Was there a price increase between 2017-2022? I remember my 2015 Genesis/G80 never had a price increase from 2015-2020. When the 2021 came out, it cost a lot more but taking inflation into account, it was only about $6k more than the previous model and I'm sure they added $6k worth of new tech over the old one. Manufacturers generally don't increase prices between model years and they readjust pricing when a new generation comes out.

 

[SuperKing]

I really love all the new changes. I wish we got the long wheelbase one and the cooler from the Equus, but otherwise it's such a great car. In Canada they just have the one choice with the E supercharger, and it's $115k all-in according to a dealer email. Still not bad compared to 150k+ for competitors if you add the rear seat package and a few things.

Don't forget Trudeau's new luxury tax... in addition to GST and PST, it's another 10% in luxury tax... in BC, this car is touching $140k... no thanks...

 

[YEH]

Whether all the extra tech, amenities and luxury is worth the price premium is up to the individual buyer, but based on the reviews, this is the 1st G90/Equus model that can stand toe to toe w/ the Germans.

Last month sales hit 104 (up from 80 for Aug), so we'll see if sales keep increasing as supply improves.

Regardless, the new G90 has already been a huge success for Genesis in Korea (where the price increase hasn't put a damper on demand) - selling about as much in a month as the LS will do in sales for the entire year in the US.

 

[iSOBigD]

Don't forget Trudeau's new luxury tax... in addition to GST and PST, it's another 10% in luxury tax... in BC, this car is touching $140k... no thanks...

I think that would apply for everything, so you'd still be coming out ahead. Not to say I would pay 140k for any car, but I'll gladly buy it used over a similar car that's tens of thousands of dollars more.

 

[SuperKing]

I think that would apply for everything, so you'd still be coming out ahead. Not to say I would pay 140k for any car, but I'll gladly buy it used over a similar car that's tens of thousands of dollars more.

Yeah, that's what I meant... I'm not paying $140k for any car... lol... maybe in 5 years and I'm looking to upgrade, I'll be able to find a demo at a steep discount like my 2020. Another way around it is lease it for 3 years and buy it out later on if you want to own it...

 

[Mcc]

I was referring to the 20% increase from 2022 to 2023. NOT 2017 to 2023. And you knew that. I also wasn't comparing the difference between the cars from 1952 to 2023. And you know that too. So please don't try to twist what I said into your negative agenda narrative.

Actually, I didn’t know you were comparing to 2022. You have a G90 but don’t say what year.
the 2022 was a bargain. The 2023 is a very different car and perhaps less of a bargain but in my opinion still competes well against it competition. I think many reviewers would agree with that.
I would further disagree with your statement that the pricing will kill NA sales and may make Genesis give up. Let’s see what happens.

 

[Backslack]

People will whine about the new G90's price hike just like the people who whined about the original G90's price after it increased from the Hyundai Equus. I said this would happen pages ago before the price was even announced. Ultimately it doesn't change the fact that it still undercuts all the comparably equipped competition and is a vastly superior car to some of them (A8 and LS500).

 

[moclippa]

My Verbier White with Obsidian Black / Bordeaux Brown Two-tone interior g90 came out of PPF and tinting yesterday so I thought I'd share a few shots. I'll be updating this post with interior shots later.

For those curious I included a shot of the rear with all the badges removed because I preferred to do a full PPF wrap instead of using cutouts around the letters. I'll be putting the GENESIS logo back on but leaving the model designation and AWD off.

A guy also happened to have brought in a G90 after my car went in for PPF so there is a side by side shot with the two cars as mine cures.

 

[XXX]

The closest before was my Kia K900, and although a very nice car, was still a Kia.

Genesis is a Hyundai. lol

 

[Harleybob]

You want to compete with the Mercedes S class. You better start to offer the V8 again. Foolish mistake.