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Advice with shifty Genesis reps and advisors?

OOF_138

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I'm currently in the midst of having a car nightmare that I got back in August. I have the car at a 2nd dealership because it was closer, and the original dealership proved itself untrustworthy.

2nd dealership advisor said the repairs warranty approval takes 2-3 weeks and can't give me a loaner before the approval.

Corporate says that it doesn't take that long but if the dealership won't provide a loaner, they offer rental reimbursement.

So far, every step of this nightmare has made all the stories about Hyundai live up to the hype. I read about how you have to fight Hyundai for the reimbursement, and they give you less than what they tell you. So, I asked the Genesis case rep to email me it in writing because of the customer experiences I've read about. He kind of got weird for a split second where he refused to. And the Genesis rep and dealership advisor keep giving conflicting answers which is very confusing and frustrating. Where the advisor said corporate had to approve the repair, and the rep said that's not decided by corporate. But rather it's decided at the dealership level. (Though this part is moot now, because it's been approved already)

I was able to confirm that the repair has been approved with the Genesis rep. But the dealership advisor won't return my emails or calls now.

I've been lucky enough to borrow my sister's car, but I don't like inconveniencing her for this long.
 
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Sorry to hear, I hope it works out. What a way to make the new car and Genesis experience a disaster..
 
Sorry to hear, I hope it works out. What a way to make the new car and Genesis experience a disaster..
Honestly, I've been kicking myself over letting myself fall into this ordeal in the first place.

Despite reading other owners bad experiences with having to deal with dealerships or corporate, I thought because the original salesmen actually insulted me via text from his work phone that it would have made corporate help with more haste.
 
I'm currently in the midst of having a car nightmare that I got back in August. I have the car at a 2nd dealership because it was closer, and the original dealership proved itself untrustworthy.

2nd dealership advisor said the repairs warranty approval takes 2-3 weeks and can't give me a loaner before the approval.

Corporate says that it doesn't take that long but if the dealership won't provide a loaner, they offer rental reimbursement.

So far, every step of this nightmare has made all the stories about Hyundai live up to the hype. I read about how you have to fight Hyundai for the reimbursement, and they give you less than what they tell you. So, I asked the Genesis case rep to email me it in writing because of the customer experiences I've read about. He kind of got weird for a split second where he refused to. And the Genesis rep and dealership advisor keep giving conflicting answers which is very confusing and frustrating. Where the advisor said corporate had to approve the repair, and the rep said that's not decided by corporate. But rather it's decided at the dealership level. (Though this part is moot now, because it's been approved already)

I was able to confirm that the repair has been approved with the Genesis rep. But the dealership advisor won't return my emails or calls now.

I've been lucky enough to borrow my sister's car, but I don't like inconveniencing her for this long.

Check my previous thread in regard to “ Disappointed with the dealer”. It could help and I hope it does.
 
I'm currently in the midst of having a car nightmare that I got back in August. I have the car at a 2nd dealership because it was closer, and the original dealership proved itself untrustworthy.

2nd dealership advisor said the repairs warranty approval takes 2-3 weeks and can't give me a loaner before the approval.

Corporate says that it doesn't take that long but if the dealership won't provide a loaner, they offer rental reimbursement.

So far, every step of this nightmare has made all the stories about Hyundai live up to the hype. I read about how you have to fight Hyundai for the reimbursement, and they give you less than what they tell you. So, I asked the Genesis case rep to email me it in writing because of the customer experiences I've read about. He kind of got weird for a split second where he refused to. And the Genesis rep and dealership advisor keep giving conflicting answers which is very confusing and frustrating. Where the advisor said corporate had to approve the repair, and the rep said that's not decided by corporate. But rather it's decided at the dealership level. (Though this part is moot now, because it's been approved already)

I was able to confirm that the repair has been approved with the Genesis rep. But the dealership advisor won't return my emails or calls now.

I've been lucky enough to borrow my sister's car, but I don't like inconveniencing her for this long.
I am not surprised by the obvious disconnect between the dealer and Genesis. I too am still awaiting the correct info from Genesis on what constitutes a Genesis certified car. The GM at my dealer says he does not agree with the information Genesis has given me in that regard. In fact the certified car I returned is back on his site as a Genesis certified car after receiving a new front bumper, fog bezel, fender painting and 2 wheel repairs. Genesis told me no body damage period and no accidents are permissible. The dealer told me they send 20 pics to Genesis showing the car and Genesis decides whether they can be certified. Oh well I do love my brand new G70. No more certified Genesis for me until they get it right. See BMW & Lexus for help!!!! There is a thread on this subject which was started in the beginning of this saga if you are interested.
 
I have a separate thread that was inquiring others about the best way getting in touch with a manager who ignored the problem at the start that pretty much snowballed into what it is now.

I bought the car from dealership 1 in august. I contact my salesmen about a bunch of issues that this car had zero prep aside from a wash, and that they indisputably fudged the inspection. Once I pointed out having reason to believe the car was in an unreported accident the salesmen spoke over me, I hung up as it was no longer a civil discussion, and he was just yelling over me. Moments later he texts me from his work phone, telling me to stop acting like a women. Which is such a lame insult, but totally unprofessional. Any phone calls after in attempt to reach the manager resulted in a run around. And me being an hour drive away made the whole "Just show up and refuse to leave until you see them" wasn't quite viable. Which lead me to bring the car to Dealership 2 to have the multipoint inspection done so I'd have official hyundai/genesis paperwork to show corporate.

I deeply regret going to dealership 2 as it was just walking into another shifty dealership. As I spoke with the shop advisor as what I wanted inspected, I brought up the aggressive downshift (which seems to be a common issue, here's the thread) and the advisor pushed a transmission replacement job on me and stated that inspection couldn't be completed until the transmission was done. Which honestly was probably bullshit. I wanted to return the car as this had become a nightmare scenario. Not certain what to do, I reached out to corporate as dealership 1's management was pretty much ignoring me. Was assigned a case manager, who called once and ghosted after. Literally called, emailed, left voicemails probably over 100 times over the next 3 weeks until week 3 I told the main line I wasn't hanging up until I speak with another case manager. Which they did but ignored my request to tow it to another dealership as the 2nd dealerships advisor seemed to not care and was annoyed, I spoke with corporate even though nothing bad was said regarding him. Pretty much everything that advisor told me was a lie, regarding the lead time, approval time, loaners. Told me the approval would take 2-3 weeks, but a family members coworkers husband works at that dealership and was able to look into it and told me it was approved 2 days after it was filed. I couldn't confront him without burning that insider bridge, so I asked the new Genesis case rep who confirmed it. Of course, once I told the advisor his answer changed from "I can't put you in a loaner until the repair is approved to "we don't have any, but the repair will be done in a week" which was also bogus as it wasn't ready for 2 weeks after the fake bs answer.

So besides having a job pushed on me, what really annoys me is that he told me to my face that the rotors were cut by dealership 1 and the pads were new. I drive the car home, with the steering feeling funny. My old man took a look and saw that the advisor had lied about the pads (down to nothing) and the rotors were never cut. So with the lies found and the steering being weird my dad calls him up and confronts him, the advisor just plays dumb and says to bring the car back for them to see why the steering is messed up. I bring the car back, wait for an hour just to be pulled to the side for him to tell me "You must have hit something, we didn't give you the car back like this. We put it up in the air and saw scratches on the rack and pinion." Another lie as we physically checked after and there is zero physical damage on the rack and pinion.

I ended up taking the car to a 3rd Genesis dealership, which I deeply wish I went to instead as the advisor gave a straight answer and zero jerking around. Calls me back 2 days later once they finally looked at the car. Asked if I just bought it, and if I had ever gotten into an accident. I said yes, I just bought it in August, and no I never got into an accident. I told him what happened with the salesmen insulting me via text, how corporate has been useless, that management pretty much just swept it under the rug. He then said that dealership 1 should be disgusted with themselves for what they sold me in regard to the issues. and with the front bumper having a coverup done they suspected what I suspected that the car was in an unreported accident and couldn't honor a warranty repair on the rack and pinion. The advisor said I need to make dealership 1 take the car back but all he could offer was a better inspection paperwork as dealership 2 pretty much wasted my time.

At this point, despite being zero help I contact my case manager and tell him the new update which pretty much more than backed my original claims. Corporate would say they can't force the first dealership to do anything, which I said I know but I need for them to get me in touch with the owner or a GM as I felt my claims were being buried at a dealership level. Corporate pretty much makes an empty offer of seeing what they can do, and nothing ever came of it. I would later do some digging and emailed the other dealerships that are owned by the same people to see if anyone could give me the owners email. The manager of the Subaru dealership they also own responded to my inquiry and emailed me the GM's email which had the email handle of the dealership I had an issue with (which was weird because I never said which dealership of their group that I was having an issue with.) So, I write a less wordy rundown of everything from start to finish, and before I contact a lawyer, I want in writing what "offers to repair" I allegedly declined. As the indirect response towards me that they told corporate was that I declined repairs. Meanwhile it was their salesmen starting a hollow offer and downplaying the issues at the beginning, but no actual offer was ever made. The manager who I couldn't get in touch with in the beginning turns out to be the one to respond. He asks me for a contact number, and we speak finally.

This was a few days before thanksgiving, he pretty much didn't acknowledge how his salesmen reacted. Said my suspicions were practically conspiracy theories and tried to gaslight me that our state has the strictest laws as far as used cars. But would also go on to ask me to send him photos of my issues, and to bring the car back in. No offer for towing despite the car not being safe and said there was no loaners to provide. Ended up having Geico tow it back, and they agreed to make the repairs minus 2 things. The rack and pinion was the real issue now, as it was backordered with no eta. Ended up finally getting it Dec 14th, but now they're telling me they think it's defective as their tech can't calibrate it. I keep calling up the advisor to see if there's any update, but they just tell me they're waiting on Genesis technical support to advise the next step.

So now I have to speak with a lemon lawyer again to see if I'm still covered as corporate and the dealership were aware of the issues within the 90 days. Although at this point it'd still be better to have the car finished instead of dragging it out even further with a lawsuit.

This is possibly one of the biggest regrets of my life, but the silver lining is that I learned a lot of very important life lessons that you can rest assure that I will never make again. Besides paying for a ppi inspection (there were some things leading up prior to this scenario that made me skip some important steps, miss some red flags etc) I will never buy hyundai or genesis ever again. But even while kicking myself daily I try to remind myself there are no guarantees even if you do take all precautions.

I still find it very weird that corporate won't give it in writing what they would reimburse for a rental. The case manager said it was like $75 a day but previously having read countless horror stories with Hyundai reimbursements always taking months and being less than promised I was very suspicious of the verbal offer and even telling the case rep this, he couldn't give me an answer why they won't give it in writing.




After the situation finally comes to a finish (hopefully soon) I will be writing up a more summarized post warning people of the specific dealerships, 1st dealerships salesmen, 2nd dealerships advisor.
 
Going to be calling on Tuesday to see what the advisor says regarding the repair status. Unless she says "it'll be ready tomorrow" I will be calling the Lemon Lawyer to advise what I need to know and say before confronting the manager.

According to the NY Attorney Generals website, I am still covered under the lemon law. On Tuesday they will have had the car for 42 days total since drop-off. I obviously don't want this dragged out as a lawsuit isn't quick, but if I tell the manager "All the nonsense in the beginning up until you finally spoke with me, with all that aside. You have had more than enough time to fix the car and I have had no reasonable remedy of a means of transportation. Either give my money back or I will be filing the lemon claim and will be contacting a news journalist" ( During a deep dig I found an article of a similar run around with another dealership in their auto group where they ended up coughing a reimbursement back up for overcharging someone like $7k)

I would say "give my money back or an equivalent car" but looking at their inventory, they don't have any. And after the nightmare this has been, I don't want any further dealings with this dealership.

Lexus was my first choice but I just read and watched too many hype posts/vids about the G70. I think having a unique car was kinda the main selling point, as there are a million more Lexuses, Infinitis, etc on the road.
 
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