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Recent 3000 mile roadtrip

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Got back Monday night after a long (2 week) road trip with a new Genesis 3.8 sedan with the advanced tech package. My observations:

1/ Great on smooth roads ... not so great on roads in need of work.
2/ Less tiring to drive than some other luxury cars due to great feel of the road and accurate tracking.
3/ GPS pronunciation can be horrible and the map data base is several years old.
4/ GPS ability to find a place to stay or a specific place to eat is OK.
5/ No 12-V power in the cabin ... blown fuse ... taken care of yesterday by the dealer ... no hassle.
6/ Decent gas mileage ... not great, but decent.
7/ Automatic windshield wipers are screwy! No big deal.
8/ Cruise control easy to use and adjust.
9/ XM radio is a disappointment. Not going to pay forward on this puppy.
10/ The heat in the rear compartment kept coming on ... found out that was due to reaching back to retrieve stuff from the back which apparently bumped up the control back there.
11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).
12/ On-ramp and lane-change acceleration is awesome! Leads one to possible dangerous behavior ... be careful with this luxury/sport sedan!
13/ Final word ... My Genny is Plenny and I love her!
 
Got back Monday night after a long (2 week) road trip with a new Genesis 3.8 sedan with the advanced tech package. My observations:

9/ XM radio is a disappointment. Not going to pay forward on this puppy.
11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).

I take exception to both of those... Please elaborate.
 
I take exception to both of those... Please elaborate.
I agree with OP about the XM, but not about the trunk. I listened to XM a couple of times after I purchased my car and didn't find anything that I would be likely to listen to regularly and that I would be willing to commit to a paid subscription for. I am a classical musician and listen mostly to classical music I have recorded on a 16GB thumb drive - few of the classical selections on XM were to my taste. On the other hand, I think the trunk is cavernous - I can't imagine having so much junk to haul on a trip that I couldn't fit it in the trunk.
 
Got back Monday night after a long (2 week) road trip with a new Genesis 3.8 sedan with the advanced tech package. My observations:

1/ Great on smooth roads ... not so great on roads in need of work
2/ Less tiring to drive than some other luxury cars due to great feel of the road and accurate tracking.
3/ GPS pronunciation can be horrible and the map data base is several years old.
4/ GPS ability to find a place to stay or a specific place to eat is OK.
5/ No 12-V power in the cabin ... blown fuse ... taken care of yesterday by the dealer ... no hassle.
6/ Decent gas mileage ... not great, but decent.
7/ Automatic windshield wipers are screwy! No big deal.
8/ Cruise control easy to use and adjust.
9/ XM radio is a disappointment. Not going to pay forward on this puppy.
10/ The heat in the rear compartment kept coming on ... found out that was due to reaching back to retrieve stuff from the back which apparently bumped up the control back there.
11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).
12/ On-ramp and lane-change acceleration is awesome! Leads one to possible dangerous behavior ... be careful with this luxury/sport sedan!
13/ Final word ... My Genny is Plenny and I love her!

You have a 2010? We have a 4.6 2010 w/Tech Pkg.

We returned from a 3K + road trip as well, covering highway, gravel and dirt roads, Calif to Canada and back.

Here is my observation of:

1/ worked well all roads, gravel/dirt/pot-holes equal to my LS400
2/ Less tiring to drive than some other luxury cars due to great feel of the road and accurate tracking, I agree
3/ GPS pronunciation can be horrible, my map data base working well/current map to late last year, 09. Now, here in Calif, when I travel to Palm Desert once weekly, I often find that the GPS/NAV will not startup well when leaving at the end of the day. Not a single issue with the NAV during the trip. Makes we wonder what's the difference with the NAV issue.
4/ GPS ability to find a place to stay, eat, banks, car washes, hotels, etc, worked very well. We used it very frequently for all sorts of NAV/POI's.
5/ n/a
6/ Avg 26-27 highway when I drove, 22-24 when teen age daughter drove.
7/ Automatic windshield wipers worked great, overall.
8/ Cruise control easy to use and adjust - car almost drives itself.
9/ likely me neither (subscribe to Sirius)
10/ The heat in the rear compartment works really well, and more than enough to about cancell out front A/C! My 14 year old would put the heat on full in the rear to warm her feet up in the early mornings, and the front A/C would struggle. Once I learned what she was doing, we stopped and bought her some wooly socks.
11/ Worked great for us on a 2 week camping trip with 2 teen girls and all camping stuff, 3 over stuffed sleeping bags, 3 pillows, 1 lg tent, stove with cooking pots/pans/plates etc, fishing equip,1 tarp, food, one extra large suitecase, 4 extra propane bottles, etc. I put into the trunk what I'd normally put into the back of my 08 Vera Cruz for a camping trip... all into the trunk. I will admit, it was packed very tight.
12/ On-ramp and lane-change acceleration is awesome! I agree.
13/ Final word ... My Genny is Plenny and I love her! I agree too!
 
Thanks for the report.
I see the trunk as very good size.
XM ? I listen to it all the time on my motorcycle. Makes those 800 mile days a lot easier.:)
 
I don't believe that merits of XM radio (good or bad) are relevant to one's evaluation of any vehicle. It's like judging the picture quality of a flat screen TV, based on whether one likes the plot of the show being aired. If a person doesn't like the sound quality of XM on a Genesis relative to that of a Buick Lacrosse than that's a fair call. However, being critical of one's car based on what's playing on the radio doesn't seem valid.
 
Funny I cant believe you said the trunk was small try driving any other car then.. you can fit like 10 bodies in there its HUGE
 
I recently completed an 801 mile round trip (SoCal to Bay Area) with two elderly passengers, one of whom has been in and out of the hospital for over a year due to a whole body infection that cost him his artificial knee. He had a "temporary spacer" (a fairly stiff construct holding the knee area roughly in shape so it can one day receive a new artificial knee) in place of the knee joint - making getting in/out of the car difficult: he can't flex that leg and it IS sore when he has to move. He needs assistance getting in/out of a wheelchair to get in/out of the car. Anyway, I drove him and his wife to the Bay Area to visit his daughter's family - and the three grandkids. (I'm "Uncle Mike" to the kids even though we're not the least bit related) They'd seen my 2009 Genesis 4.6/Tech before but had never taken a ride in it. They LOVED the ride, loved the car, and were impressed by the nav system and audio system. The trunk swallowed the wheelchair and most of the luggage; only a few loose items on the back seat. She managed to finish sewing the edge and "quilting" the center of a new blanket they'd made for the latest grandchild during the trip while riding in the back seat. I didn't hear any yelps from getting accidentally stabbed by the needle!

1/ Great on smooth roads ... not so great on roads in need of work.
Nobody complained about the ride; in fact, the passengers (used to floating Buicks!) said the car rode nicely. There were some expansion-joint thumps that I think could have been handled better by the suspension but I come from a couple sports cars with semi-trailing arm rear suspension (for those that don't know about that type: they ALWAYS have stiff springs to minimize tire toe & camber changes over bounces) and a leaf-sprung Corolla (yes, it's that old - a 1978 rear wheel drive (!) Corolla). So I'm used to firm suspensions that "pick up" road irregularities. I haven't experienced the disjointed/coupled problems folks have complained about with the 2009 cars - at least not yet - though I expect my car would ride lousy over certain road surfaces too. Fortunately we didn't encounter anything like that on I-5, I-405, and the other roads we used.

2/ Less tiring to drive than some other luxury cars due to great feel of the road and accurate tracking.
The original plan was to take their car (a several year old Buick) and share driving duties between myself and her but I volunteered the Genesis since it had more space... and I thought it'd be a LOT nicer to drive. I did 100% of the driving - no problem, felt fine/refreshed when we arrived.

3/ GPS pronunciation can be horrible and the map data base is several years old.
The GPS guided us perfectly to their daughter's house - even though they'd made this trip many times previously so they knew the route. No complaints for this trip. My friend was enthralled with & impressed by the various "here's what's coming next" displays. They want one now. I do know of a few local streets missing from the database... and a couple-year-old local CostCo isn't in there either. I hope Hyundai steps up to the plate to update map data to "current" as of the car's model year/sale date at least. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a 2009 luxury car to have 2009 based nav data, let alone the folks with 2010 cars running with 2008 nav data.

4/ GPS ability to find a place to stay or a specific place to eat is OK.
We didn't need this function on the trip; they'd driven this trip many times previously and knew the good spots to eat. I've used it locally though and it works well enough. I just wish the address entry (using the DIS knob) was city-street-number instead of street-first... the voice recognition doesn't recognize my voice very well.

5/ No 12-V power in the cabin ... blown fuse ... taken care of yesterday by the dealer ... no hassle.
Does one fuse power both the cig lighter outlet and the accessory outlet in the arm rest? We didn't need/use either one. So far mine have worked normally.

6/ Decent gas mileage ... not great, but decent.
We got just over 26 MPG for the whole trip according to the dash display; I haven't actually calculated it yet. Normally I get just over 27 MPG on the SoCal to central Utah run when I visit my folks... so this trip MPG actually disappointed me... I was driving slower & smoother in deference to my passengers! 26-27 MPG is what my 4-cyl turbo sports cars get on the Utah run as well... so I think that's outstanding for a big 4-door V8 sedan.

7/ Automatic windshield wipers are screwy! No big deal.
Wipers? That implies rain! Doesn't happen much in SoCal so I've never used the auto wiper mode. After a year of ownership I recently/finally drove the Genesis in a light rain - just to try the auto wipers. Seemed to work okay. Usually if it might rain I drive one of the other cars. My folks have an Azera and they use the auto wipers... they "swipe" each time you start the car; I don't care for this and the extra wear that induces to the blades which is why I normally don't have the auto wipers turned ON for my Genesis. I wonder... does the Genesis even do that start-up swipe?!

8/ Cruise control easy to use and adjust.
"Old style" cruise control is all my 2009 has, no Adaptive CC. Works fine for me; it's what my other cars have as well so I'm used to it. I've never tried an Adaptive CC system... My CC doesn't have the +/-3 MPH issue some folks have reported. I use it frequently. Both sports cars have cruise and I use cruise on the highways. The Corolla was the only one without CC for a while... a few years ago I retrofitted a Mitsu Starion cruise control system to the Corolla so it'd have one too.

9/ XM radio is a disappointment. Not going to pay forward on this puppy.
One place where I do disagree with you - and I'm a cheap Scrooge when it comes to "subscription" services like XM, cable/sat TV (I don't have either of those), etc. Yes, the sound quality is poor relative to what the rest of the system is capable of but I use XM most of the time in the car. I don't have have much of a CD/DVD/DVD-A collection. XM beats the snot out of broadcast programming around here. On my short commute to/from work there are times when all 6 memory presets (in the other cars) are advertising at the same time! Way too many ads on broadcast these days. And, though the systems in my other cars were "high end" for their day, they really sound muddy compared to the Genesis. Since those are my daily drivers... I'm used to that muddy sound so XM "fits right in." I recently renewed mine (since my car is a 2009 I had a 1 year trial, not the stubby 3-month trial on 2010 models) and even added the "best of Sirius" package for the racing & football coverage - 3 years worth!

10/ The heat in the rear compartment kept coming on ... found out that was due to reaching back to retrieve stuff from the back which apparently bumped up the control back there.
Thankfully the temp control on the rear climate control panel stays put on my car... I don't have the "drifting" temp dial some folks have mentioned. Nor a teenager with chilly feet! My friend's wife liked being able to set temps herself; we actually had "3 zone" climate control on the trip. My dad likes riding in the Genesis back seat as well thanks to the generous leg room & multiple a/c vents.

11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).
This was my first trip where everything didn't fit in the trunk. For my Utah runs, I'm often carrying tools (so I can help dad around his house/cars) and gifts... yet it all fit into the trunk. The wheelchair was the "straw that broke the camel's back" this time.

12/ On-ramp and lane-change acceleration is awesome!
Isn't it though? My Genesis will walk either of my sports cars (turbocharged engines too) with no effort whatsoever... getting about the same MPG overall too. Really shows how old my other cars are!

13/ Final word ... My Genny is Plenny and I love her!
I've been quite satisfied with mine as well. I sprung for the V8 model because:
a) I figure V8s will soon be very hard to find thanks to CAFE requirements so this might be my one and only chance to own one and
b) for the US spec 2009s, the V8s had a few extra frills in the interior relative to the V6 models, the LSD, etc. for only $2K extra - a "deal" in my opinion. I much preferred the V8 interior to the V6 version.
Everyone that has seen/ridden in my car is impressed/amazed by it. Dad says "let's take the Rolls." After the Bay Area trip, both passengers gushed about the car for weeks to me, my folks when they were in town, and to numerous others. I'd say they liked the car!

mike c.
 
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Funny I cant believe you said the trunk was small try driving any other car then.. you can fit like 10 bodies in there its HUGE

And you know this HOW??!!:eek:

With regard to the trunk size, you guys/gals have obviously never travelled with my wife on a holiday/shopping/crafts blitz !

I think for most normal use, the trunk size is fine, but with four people on a vacation trip you do need to pack carefully to get everything in. Soft bags are definitely required as hard shell suitcases are much harder to fit in. The trunk is a bit shallow and doesn't allow even medium sized suitcases to stand upright, although I agree it is cavernous.
 
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10/ The heat in the rear compartment kept coming on ... found out that was due to reaching back to retrieve stuff from the back which apparently bumped up the control back there.
11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).

I'm surprised by #11. When I bought my 2009 3.8 I was on a trip to visit family. My Mercedes E class was loaded from the trunk to the back seat. When I unloaded the Mercedes payload into the Genesis, everything fit in the trunk. I was very pleasantly surprised.

Ron:confused:
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11/ The trunk is small and we had to store stuff in the rear compartment (see #10 above).

With regard to the above, one of the many things I investigated when I bought the Genny was trunk space. I had a 99 STS with a 15.6 cu. ft capacity which I thought was big. The Genny comes in at 16 according to Edmunds! I am also providing the following additional comparison sourced from Edmunds:

Acura TL 13.1
Avalon 14.4
Buick LaCross 13.3
BMW 5 14.0
Caddy CTS 13.6
Infinity M37 14.9
Mercedes E 15.9

As you can see, our Genny beats them all. If you want more storage space, you should be looking at an SUV rather than a sedan:D
 
I take exception to both of those... Please elaborate.

I like classical music and XM radio is hurting badly in this area. Also, found lots of obscure easy listening and rock music and was contstantly hitting the arrow keys on the steering wheel to find something decent to listen to.

Nothing to do with the Genesis; just not worth the subscription cost in my case. It was an observation made on my first long trip with a brand-new car and I included it with the others. Thought other folks might be interested.

I traded a Lincoln Town Car with a trunk volume of 20.6 cubic feet and the decrease to 16 cubic feet was a shock! Also, the proportions make it tough to deal with large suitcases. The Genny trunk is almost too deep and not high enough.
 
I recently took a road trip as part of my job transfer to KS from MD. The trunk was big enough to hold a large duffle bag and a garment bag plus several small bags. The only drawback was that I had to pack the dog's crate in the bottom of the trunk-the coverings for the speakers blocked the crate from going all the way in.

The car ran like a champ the entire trip. Even when loaded down with over 100 lbs of luggage and a 45 lb dog, the car still accelerated pretty smartly. Also still managed to get about 27 mpg for the trip.
 
I think the trunk is adequate- though it would be nice to have it a little deeper. That said, compared to other cars (Town Car and Crown Vic aside) is similar or larger than most.
Gas mileage, on long trips through CT, Upstate NY & PA get close to 30mph. I am sure that in flat open space state, the 3.8 should get over 30 mph.
I use XM all the time with no beefs. I wish iPOD integration and selection was easier & more intuitive.
23,000 and no issues- just praise.
 
I think the trunk is adequate- though it would be nice to have it a little deeper. That said, compared to other cars (Town Car and Crown Vic aside) is similar or larger than most.
Gas mileage, on long trips through CT, Upstate NY & PA get close to 30mph. I am sure that in flat open space state, the 3.8 should get over 30 mph.

Refer my posting #11 for an analysis of trunk space.
 
I meant MPG
 
I thought you were smoking something when you said the trunk on the Genny is small, but now I understand you're comparing it to a town car/Crown Vic.
I bet you can't find a comparably sized car with a trunk that big nowadays.
Genesis' trunk is considered huge. Try a LaCrosse(CXS, 2010) and report back.
It's supposedly a comparable vehicle to a Genesis, and the trunk is pretty much half the size.

Dan
 
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