G70 aftermarket brake pads

[Phastroh]

Yeah it’s definitely for the looks. I drive slow mostly and not that far.

It’s a looks thing. I just don’t want the shaky braky

With all I’ve read I’m scared to buy anything. I don’t mind waiting I’m good right now for wear.

I heard a few squeaks last week and made me consider preparing in case it’s the pads.

 

[EBC BRAKES]

Update. No pulsation or vibration of any kind at speeds up to 80mph. All 4 rotors show even pad contact. Looks like I got away with not turning the rear rotors. These EBC Bluestuff pads definitely have a performance bend. Pedal feel is more linear than the stock pads. Friction level is considerably higher. Braking to a stop, I need to pay a lot more attention on tapering off pedal pressure, or the car will stop abruptly. No brake noise though (chattering/hissing/groaning/etc.) Brake dust is black and a lot of it, especially up front, so I'm anticipating wear rate higher up front too. Washes off easily enough. IMO, not everybody is going to like this compound. If I weren't doing AutoX and Track Days, I would go with something a bit less aggressive, like the YellowStuff.

I do like that EBC is very up front with the characteristics of each pad compound and what I can expect from each, instead of a bunch of marketing superlatives. Not every mfr goes into the levels of details EBC does and it is a key reason I've always liked their motorcycle brake pads.
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[Volfy]

Update on EBC Bluestuff...

I just came back from Track Day at Motorsport Rank at Cresson. We didn't get to run the G70 because of a cracked windshield. I was a bit miffed because I had emailed the organizers 10 days before the event asking for clarification on what qualifies as "severe crack". Even sent them pics of the windshield. I was originally told it would be okay to run. Then, just before the weekend, I was told the safety steward advised against running for safety reason. WTF?! I probably could've gotten the windshield replaced in time for the event, if they had told me that upfront. Urghh...

Anyhow, on the bright side, EBC Bluestuff performed brilliantly on the Stinger. The 3.1 mile course has several WOT straights that got the car up to speed, which then had to be scrubbed off. My geriatric brain couldn't learn all the corners faster enough, so I didn't threshold brake much until later in the afternoon sessions. Still, the brakes got plenty hot. Brake modulation was uniformly linear and responsive from start of session (cold) to end (hot). Never a hint of fade. ZERO brake pad material transfer.

The downside...

1. The front brakes pads have pretty much worn off the bevel. I didn't measure the bevel thickness when the pads were brand new, but it is a substantial amount. I would not be surprised if they are down to 1/2 worn by the end of next Track Day event in Nov.

2. Brake dust production is prodigious. It's looking like I'd have to clean the wheels at least once, if not twice, a week of everyday driving.

3. After final bedding in at the track, I noticed a bit more hissing, but not all the time. Not at all objectionable, certainly not from inside the cabin with windows closed.


Would I recommend them? Yes, if you plan on running your car hard on race track for longish sessions. If you AutoX only, they are way overkill. Yellowstuff would likely be more than plenty and might even be okay for occasional track duty, particular on short technical tracks. I might try that next.





Right after final 4th session. Hard to tell from the pic, but the front rotors showed a hint of uniform heat bluing. I would NOT want to run drilled rotors! As can be seen on this pic, zero sign of brake pad material transfer, so slotted rotors are NOT necessary either.


Some folks brought some serious hardware.

 

[Husky]

Sorry you didn't get to run the G70 - that sucks that they changed their tune too late for you to fix it.
But great news about the performance of your Stinger brakes and new pads. That road coarse looks nice and plenty fast. That must have been a good time.

 

[SahilG]

I have a 2019 G70 3.3t prestige with the brembos. I am looking for the same amount of performance as the oem brembo brake pads. Are the Dynamic Friction 5000 good or should I get the Dynamic Friction 3000 Ceramic or Dynamic Friction 3000 Semi-metallic? My priorities are little to no noise and less brake dust. I use this car for daily driving in the city with quite a bit of spirited driving.

Thanks!

 

[Husky]

Less brake dust than the crappy OEM ceramic pads? Good luck. They are already pretty low dust, and perform quite poorly, as you probably know if you've read any of the threads regarding G70 brake pads and brake vibration issues. Unfortunately, low noise and low dust are inconsistent with the goals of more bite and better performance.

 

[Volfy]

I'd like to have 500 HP and get 50mpg. Maybe one day, but not today.

Brake pad materials get better, but it is still a compromise. Rag on the OEM pads all you want, but they are some of the least dust producing I've had in any car. If that is your priority, pick an aftermarket ceramic pad. Just about any semi-metallic is going to be dust city compared to OEM.

 

[Phastroh]

The Rotors I will likely get come with these pads and I hope they are decent as they say. I was considering the other Powerstops I think like Z27 or something but not the high performace just the regular close to OEM. It is all I need since I am not racing to get groceries.

Powerstop brake pads part numbers are 17-6012 (front) and 17-2144.​

 

[SahilG]

Less brake dust than the crappy OEM ceramic pads? Good luck. They are already pretty low dust, and perform quite poorly, as you probably know if you've read any of the threads regarding G70 brake pads and brake vibration issues. Unfortunately, low noise and low dust are inconsistent with the goals of more bite and better performance.

What brake pads do u recommend?

 

[Husky]

It depends on what you care about the most (dust, noise, initial bite, braking performance, ability to avoid leaving rotor deposits which cause brake vibration), and how much you're willing to spend.
As you can see, this is a long thread, with a number of different brands and models of pads that people have tried. Luckily there are a number of good choices now, that don't cost a fortune.
I bought the factory "Euro" semi-metallic pads, which were expensive, but about the only game in town in 2019. They're great, but leave a lot of dust, which I'm used to. They're even more expensive now. If I had to buy new pads now, I'd look at some of the other brands discussed in this thread.
But again, you need to prioritize your wishes. As @Volfy said, it's a compromise (like most things). There's no perfect, ideal pad. You basically have to choose between low dust or better braking performance.

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[Slip_Angle]

I like the stock pads for my use but I'm not braking hard, so heat build up and pad material transfer isn't an issue at this point. One day, I'll upgrade though!

 

[canucklehead604]

I bought the factory "Euro" semi-metallic pads, which were expensive, but about the only game in town in 2019. They're great, but leave a lot of dust, which I'm used to. They're even more expensive now. If I had to buy new pads now, I'd look at some of the other brands discussed in this thread.

^ curious how many miles you have on the Euros and how they are holding up? i'm at 28k kms and just had my annual "free" Genesis service yesterday. still lots of meat left on the pads - i think the report said 6-7mm. assuming they had 10mm when new, that should indicate a ~60k km service life under normal conditions.

smooth braking so far, no uneven pad deposits, fantastic bite and zero fade. lots of dust but that's the trade-off. i do get occasional pad squeal but nothing major. rotors look to be wearing equally and i doubt i'll be able to skim them when the pads need replacement - it'll likely be a full rotor/pad re+re.

i'm kicking around the idea of tracking the car post-warranty, so that'll surely exhaust the pads in no time at which point i'll have to look to an aftermarket alternative.

 

[Husky]

My experience sounds much like yours. I've got about 24k miles on the car, almost all of it on the Euro pads. There's still plenty of meat left on them. They are still great! Yeah, the dust is the only negative, but my other cars are the same, so I'm used to it.

 

[ejguillot]

An update on the pads I put on (Hawk Performance HPS 5.0): after some more use, the high speed braking vibration went away. So the only downsides now are more brake dust and the slight noise right when I come to a stop (and slowly release the brakes from a stop).

Happy so far, and cheaper than EBC pads.

 

[Phastroh]

So then a squeek at 19k miles is likely not the pads being low.

 

[Volfy]

So then a squeek at 19k miles is likely not the pads being low.

Not likely, but can't be ruled out without eyeballing the pads. At lot depends on how the car has been driven.

 

[Phastroh]

Not likely, but can't be ruled out without eyeballing the pads. At lot depends on how the car has been driven.

Driven very casual. Not a hard breaker. Squeak is not always but I’ll let off then press again and it stops.

In general it is driven lightly.

 

[Volfy]

The hissing from wear indicator tabs on brake pads typically will be noticeable every time you brake.

 

[tarhoosier]

For Sale:
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[WilcoJunoHotel]

Guys, I had my 100% stock 2022 G70 3.3 up in the mountains yesterday for some spirited driving. Temps were in the 40s to low 50s. I was coming down a curvy mountain road (fast) when I started to feel a light shudder when applying the brakes. It continued for a bit and I thought maybe I had bent a rim or a tire was going flat but then I started to smell the unmistakable odor of brake pads cooking. I slowed down and tried not to use my brakes for a few miles thinking that I just overheated them but I didn't feel comfortable riding fast the rest of the day. I did use the brakes of course on the 60 mile return ride and I didn't notice any shudder or loss of braking.

I am thinking the pads are shot at 8000 miles - that is total miles on the car. I have done spirited mountain riding numerous times before with this car and this is the first time I experienced this.

Should I change the pads? Should I go with a different pad this time given that I like to drive aggressively?

Suggestions?

Thanks.