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Best wax?

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OK so I have read a ton of posts talking about different types of waxes to use on the Genny. Now I am one of the mindset that since I have less then 1500 miles a cleaner wax isnt needed.

So what is the best type to use to put on a long protective cover while getting the best shine?
 
That's like asking what the best motor oil is, you will get 100 answers. All I will tell you is that if you want to keep the car as new looking as possible you need to understand the different materials that make up the interior and exterior of the car. Since we're just talking about paint. To simplify it I will use a 3 step approach.
1) You need to clean the paint (clay bar and paint cleaners).
2) Polish the paint to bring out the shine remove swirls
3) Protect, wax or paint sealants

You're jumping to step 3 cause you think the car is new. Let me assure you that a brand new car still needs all 3 steps to keep it looking that way. Go to the meguiars website to learn more. Or try this:
http://www.detailedimage.com/Auto-Detailing-Guide/
Off the top of my head there are 6 different types of plastics that are used on this car. All require a different method of cleaning & protection.
 
TJ you are 100% right. I am/was thinking that since the car is new that I would have less work. And while I am willing to put in the work I must be honest and say that I dont have the time or energy to use a different type of protectant for each type of surface.

How would this work out...
Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo & Conditioner
Clear Coat Safe Polishing Compound
Gold Class Liquid Wax

Gold Class Rich Leather Wipes
Gold Class Dash & Trim Foam

Gold Class All Wheel Cleaner
Gold Class Endurance High Gloss


I must admit that I really only do the whole true cleaning once or twice a year. The rest of the time I go to the carwash.:eek:
 
How would this work out...
Gold Class Car Wash Shampoo & Conditioner
Clear Coat Safe Polishing Compound
Gold Class Liquid Wax

Gold Class Rich Leather Wipes
Gold Class Dash & Trim Foam

Gold Class All Wheel Cleaner
Gold Class Endurance High Gloss
I must admit that I really only do the whole true cleaning once or twice a year. The rest of the time I go to the carwash.:eek:
You live in Jersey I would do it once a season or 4 times a year. I have used all those products you have mentioned. The only thing I would skip is the Leather wipes. Meguiars leather products are not very good. I am a big Meguiars supporter believe me, I have gone to their HQ and taken classes, but their leather stuff I skip. More of a Lexol guy. But the fact you use anything is a good start. It's negligence that will kill the quality of the car.

You can read this thread and see the products I have recommended before with pictures.
http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=4875

If you're not inclined to do this yourself, I would get the car professionally detailed a couple times a year. I know the job I do would cost $500 bucks, but you probably don't care to see your engine bay clean. Also please avoid the DIY places with the hoses and pressure spray or any automated car washes. Hand wash only. My Genesis has never seen a car wash, but most people aren't as neurotic about detailing.
 
The input TJPark has provided this forum and myself is priceless when it comes to detailing and products. As a matter of fact, I hand washed my Genesis today and applied one coat of my Liquid Glass detailing spray. I only drive the Genesis 3 out of 7 days and probably hand wash once every 2.5 weeks.

Right now, I've got 3 coats of Liquid Glass applied and probably 3 detail spray applications... Boy does my car look AWESOME!!!

The interior is a little different. I keep up with dusting and vacuuming but probably only clean and apply products once a month.... and the car still looks detailed on the inside!

The only thing I haven't done is detail the engine/engine bay. I'm sure this area can get tricky... recommended products TJ?
 
The only thing I haven't done is detail the engine/engine bay. I'm sure this area can get tricky... recommended products TJ?
Engine bay gets really nasty. Most of what's in there is hard plastic and rubber. You never want to get the engine bay wet like with a hose or pressure wash,as there are a lot of electrical connections in there you don't want to introduce humidity to electricity, bad things can happen. I get some old rags that I am planning to throw away. Get the rags moist with a degreaser like Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner or Degreaser, although general stores don't carry this, 409 or Simple green diluted should be fine. Then you want to shine up the hard plastics and rubber with something like, Mothers Back to Black. I really like this product, it lasts a long time and doesn't attract dirt like silicon products. Some people like a deep shine, other prefer the matte look. i would also try, Stoners trime shine as well. It's just you're taste and preference. Just make sure the dressing says that it is ok for coasted plastic,rubber, and vinyl.
*** Warning***, never clean a hot or warm engine. Do this when the engine is completely cold, or you'll find out the hard way, why.
 
I just picked up my Sterling Blue 4.6 last week and used clay bar, Liquid Glass Pre cleaner and three coats of Liquid Glass polish. The metalic in the blue just jumps out.
 
Very nice. Since I live my life at Costco I was really considering this...http://www.costco.com/Browse/Produc...ang=en-US&Sp=C&ec=BC-EC10615-Cat21248&topnav=

For $90 that is a whole lots of Mothers products. Thoughts?

Good value. I have used Mothers products with great success. I would skip the drying blade, don't like those things, and get another bucket, one for rinsing the mitt the other for the car soap. I also use two or 3 wash mitts. I like sheepskin for the majority of the car, but I will also use one specifically for tires only and one that only touches the lower portion of the car that attract a lot of road grime and tar, especially the rocker panels and behind the wheel wells. You don't want to have the mitt that touches brake dust, to touch the paint.

This thing is an awesome sponge for the lower portion of the car.
http://www.autogeek.net/pinsafscrub.html
 
So then it would be a good purchase with a quality product?

I know the things you guys have mentioned are great products but I'm not trying to break the bank or spend 5 hours every other weekend doing the car. Just a couple really good washes per year.
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So then it would be a good purchase with a quality product?

I know the things you guys have mentioned are great products but I'm not trying to break the bank or spend 5 hours every other weekend doing the car. Just a couple really good washes per year.

Yes, like most things at COSTCO, good product, great value. All I will say is HAND WASH ONLY, don't take the car to those automated car wash places, where your car rolls down an assembly line.
 
I made that mistake twice so far and then i read an article that explained how all the brushes hold the dirt from thousands of cars and continuously scratch your clear coat and actually cause more problems then they are worth.

Ill never go again. That is why I figure $90 for a starter kit is a pretty good move in the right direction!
 
Yes, like most things at COSTCO, good product, great value. All I will say is HAND WASH ONLY, don't take the car to those automated car wash places, where your car rolls down an assembly line.

Tell us more TJ. Tell us in detail why automated car washes suck. I don't use them, but I'm curious for more info.
 
I just picked up my Sterling Blue 4.6 last week and used clay bar, Liquid Glass Pre cleaner and three coats of Liquid Glass polish. The metalic in the blue just jumps out.

Glad to hear you got back with the new car. I really don't know anything about Liquid Glass, but you NEVER can go wrong starting with the clay bar. Even if the car only has 1500 miles on it, it was exposed to the elements when it came off the line.

I got my black Genesis 2009 on Dec 26, 2009. It had been manufactured Oct 29, 2008 so there was a lot of environmental exposure even though there were no miles on the clock.

Welcome back, Stoofpilot, and I'm glad you're pleased with Liquid Glass.

Ron in Holden Beach:welcome:
 
OK so I have read a ton of posts talking about different types of waxes to use on the Genny. Now I am one of the mindset that since I have less then 1500 miles a cleaner wax isnt needed.

So what is the best type to use to put on a long protective cover while getting the best shine?


Whatever you decide to use, R. L., I would strongly recommend using a clay bar the first time to strip off contaminants. Look inside the driver's door and you will find the manufacture date of your car. It may have only 1500 miles, but it has sat around in the great outdoors for some time before you took it in.

Ron

PS: Just my 2¢ worth, but I'm a big Zaino fan.

http://www.zainostore.com/:)
 
Tell us more TJ. Tell us in detail why automated car washes suck. I don't use them, but I'm curious for more info.

Think if it from a business point of view. What is the point of any business, at it's most basic level? It's to make money. Now executing this at a car wash usually comes in 1 of 4 ways.
1. Self serve, you put quaters into a machine and wash the car with spray guns and brushes that are already there trying to beat a clock. We'll skip this one.
2. Tunnel system where you car goes through an automatic assembly line and get blasted with spinning rotating brushes and soap.
3. Touchless where they spray only water and chemicals at high pressure to clean your car.
4. Hand wash, where dudes with mitts go over your car, with soap and water.

Tunnel system: The brushes they use on those things rotate at a high rate of speed and will create what's called micromarring and clearcoat surface abrasions which usually manifest as swirls. Good thing is that a detailer can usually buff these things out. Do you think they swap those brushes out regularly?

Touchless: By it's very nature, in order to get the car clean they have to use very caustic chemicals to remove the dirt, which will remove wax, the primary surface protectant on your car. Also, that much pressure on the paints surface can also cause micromarring on the paint as well. Undercarriage and wheel wells this is acceptable. On paint surface this is not.

Hand wash: This is the "least worse" It resembles what you would do at home except at a industrial pace. Watch the washers, are they using separate brushes and mitts for wheel and tires vs. paint and glass? Are they rinsing the mitts after every car, or just using the same ones over and over? Do they dry the car with an air compressor and knock out all the water in the seams, that will streak when you drive away? Do the towels they are using look like rags you would use to wipe down lawn furniture or do they look like microfiber drying towels? Does the glass cleaner they are using on the interior of your car have ammonia in it, that can damage your tint? You should ask that question.

Back to the basic premise. The car wash is all about volume, and speed. They can't be sitting there on a saturday afternoon (when eveyone goes to get the car wash), babying your ride. They need to knock it out as quickly as possible and move onto the next car. If using stronger concentrations of chemicals to wash the car in order to facilitate cleanliness, that can strip wax, they will do it. Why? To make money.
All of this is not my infinite wisdom, but is taught at Detailing 101 Class at Meguiars in Irvine, CA. If you live in SoCal, you must go. It's free and you will learn a lot.
 
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Look inside the driver's door and you will find the manufacture date of your car.

Ron... Glad you wrote that because I was going to ask where to find the manufacture date. I'm actually going to check now...
 
Ron car was made February 20, 2010 and I bought it on June 16, 2010. So it was sitting somewhere for four months. So it will get a clay bar as soon as I buy the Costco Mothers kit.:D
 
Thanks for the info TJ -

Please refer to the following video. Is this you by chance??

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2sbh54_g2c&feature=popt02us09"]YouTube- The most expensive car wash in the world[/nomedia]
 
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