G70 to be discontinued

[Slip_Angle]

From what I unerstood, the next G70 would be an EV. If this article is true, this may be the end of the road for the G70 due to slow sales.

[EXCLUSIVE] Genesis G70 sports sedan to be discontinued

 

[Tones_G70]

Wow, that will be a shame if that happens.
Such a great car.

 

[XamnosiddA]

From what I unerstood, the next G70 would be an EV. If this article is true, this may be the end of the road for the G70 due to slow sales.

[EXCLUSIVE] Genesis G70 sports sedan to be discontinued

That is a shame, but hopefully that means the value of all of ours will go up when that happens (like the Stinger).

 

[krydakai]

G70 to be discontinued



Due to low sales, G70 is following Kia Stinger's footsteps...

Shit sucks as a 2023 G70 3.3T AWD Sports owner

 

[JCtx]

I also own a '23, but the 2.0T Sport Prestige. Even if discontinued, manufacturers should keep making parts for like 10 years, so it's not like you'd be left in the cold. As far as resale, it might even help; guess we'll have to wait and see. I was thinking of trading it for either a Jaguar F-type P450 RWD or a Porsche Cayman S (both fully loaded), but feel bad selling the G70. It used to be my wife's, but it's now mine. I like it, and there's nothing wrong with it, so we'll see. Will check how much it's worth at Carmax and others.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Ok..... according to these guys, a new G70 is due in 2025. LOL

2025 Genesis G70: Redesign & Release Date

 

[Lisettechi]

I could see them discontinuing the G80, but not the G70. I see a lot more G70s around than 80s. I would be surprised if they really do kill it. Then again, it could just be people in my area prefer G70s.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Duplicate thread.

@Sal Collaziano

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Duplicate thread.

@Sal Collaziano

Discussions merged...

 

[YEH]

G70 to be discontinued

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Due to low sales, G70 is following Kia Stinger's footsteps...

Shit sucks as a 2023 G70 3.3T AWD Sports owner

I could see them discontinuing the G80, but not the G70. I see a lot more G70s around than 80s. I would be surprised if they really do kill it. Then again, it could just be people in my area prefer G70s.

The kicker was low sales in Korea (altho, NA sales were also disappointing, for much of its run, lower than the Stinger).

The G80 does 4.5-5k/month in sales in Korea, that's why it's still around despite low sales in NA.

Same goes for the G90 which outsells the G70 in Korea.

The core issue with the G70 has always been its tight rear passenger space (same thing that doomed the ATS), and in Korea, they favor larger lux sedans (E and S Classes outsell the C Class); the Grandeur, which is in the same price range (maybe a little higher), does 10k units a month.

Don't buy the argument that if Genesis had made the G70 larger, it would be too close to the G80 as the G80 is on the large side for its segment whereas the G70 is on the small side.

Anyhow, Kia is working on a pseudo electric replacement for the Stinger (will be a fastback, but closer in size to the G80 and more upmarket), so could very well be the same for the G70.

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[Volfy]

Ok..... according to these guys, a new G70 is due in 2025. LOL

2025 Genesis G70: Redesign & Release Date

That article appears to be written on old info. It didn't mention anything about the 2nd refresh with the 2.5T base engine (coming to NA as 2024 model?).

All this EV stuff is rather annoying to me, as I have zero interest in buying one. If anything, I wouldn't mind a mild hybrid. A lot of mfrs are finding out a lot of their customers are preferring hybrids over EV.

As Ford loses billions on EVs, the company embraces hybrids

Ford's hybrid hype runs counter to recent messaging from the Detroit automakers, which have touted the performance and popularity of all-electric favorites.

www.cnbc.com

EVs do have their applications. IMO, they are perfect for local delivery vans with fix planned routes (Amazon, FedEX, UPS, USPS, etc.) and tradesmen who basically work out of their vehicles but typically drive limited miles each work day.

For most of us that need a multi-purpose vehicle that can do daily commutes and occasional long drives, hybrids just makes more sense.

If pure electric is where Genesis is going, I'd be shopping elsewhere.

 

[Slip_Angle]

It sounds like the development of the RN2 project, which is the all electric G70 was cancelled. I suppose that could mean many things.. maybe the ice version will just continue to get facelifts. Maybe the new version will share a platform and still be a G70... Maybe the G70 name will go away but there will be a replacement. Who knows.

Either way, we all knew the car in its current form was going away in the next couple years. We'll see what the future holds.

 

[Backslack]

Yeah, not going to take this seriously until we get official confirmation. Much like how the vaulted Hyundai Pony Day nonsense that was promulgated all around the internet earlier this year ended up being a hoax.

It would also make zero sense if the Stinger gets an EV replacement (GT1) despite being a globally less popular vehicle than the G70.

Kia Stinger EV Successor Coming In 2025 With 600+ HP: Report

This would make it the most powerful production Kia in history with more power than the EV6 GT.

www.motor1.com

 

[Slip_Angle]

Official word from Genesis (via my GXM) is that there are no plans to discontinue the G70.

 

[jjsC6]

I have seen information that the G70 is the only sedan they make that is selling reasonably well. This is second or third hand information at best. BUT, I just looked at Genesis inventory of all vehicles within a 250 mile radius and the G70 is around 80% of their inventory.

While that could be read two ways, my take is that they would not be investing inventory dollars in a car that is slow selling. They had very few G80s and 90s. I also looked at resale values. The G70 has by far the highest residual which is a good sign.

 

[YEH]

All this EV stuff is rather annoying to me, as I have zero interest in buying one. If anything, I wouldn't mind a mild hybrid. A lot of mfrs are finding out a lot of their customers are preferring hybrids over EV.

If pure electric is where Genesis is going, I'd be shopping elsewhere.

As I've stated before, not offering hybrids aside from the 48V supercharged V6 in the G90 (which probably will at least make its way down to the GV80) was a miscalculation by Genesis.

The straight ICE models had basically no chance of success over in Europe, and the $ that went into developing the G70 Shooting Brake would have been better spent hybridizing it.

As it turns out, HMG is developing the perfect hybrid powertrain for Genesis, hybridizing the 2.5T, which, reportedly will first go into the next Palisade (which will also be getting a boosted version of the 3.5L V6).

It's a bit odd that within HMG, there is such a disparate outlook when it comes to hybrids - as pretty much the entire Hyundai and Kia lineups will be getting hybrid variants, including the aforementioned Palisade, Telluride and Carnival.

Yeah, not going to take this seriously until we get official confirmation. Much like how the vaulted Hyundai Pony Day nonsense that was promulgated all around the internet earlier this year ended up being a hoax.

It would also make zero sense if the Stinger gets an EV replacement (GT1) despite being a globally less popular vehicle than the G70.

Kia Stinger EV Successor Coming In 2025 With 600+ HP: Report

This would make it the most powerful production Kia in history with more power than the EV6 GT.

www.motor1.com

Would not be surprised if we eventually do see confirmation.

The Stinger "replacement" will be larger and more upscale, so more akin to the G80 than G70; makes sense as the Korean market simply does not buy compact lux sedans and with the K900 discontinued, Kia needs a new flagship to slot above the K8.

[Aside from the Korean market which does not favor fastbacks (really, no market does), the Stinger has usually outsold the G70 - US, Canada, Australia, Germany].

Hard to see a business case for a direct G70 replacement.

Also the same reason why a Genesis coupe would be more a 2-door version of the G80 than the G70.

Genesis would be better off diverting the resources to add (yeah, I know) another CUV, but this time, one that is more of a boxy, off roader - say, something btwn the size of the GV70 and GV80.


Something like that would do very well in Korea as people love to get out of the crowded cities and go car camping (which is what the new Santa Fe is geared for).

 

[Backslack]

Would not be surprised if we eventually do see confirmation.

The Stinger "replacement" will be larger and more upscale, so more akin to the G80 than G70; makes sense as the Korean market simply does not buy compact lux sedans and with the K900 discontinued, Kia needs a new flagship to slot above the K8.

[Aside from the Korean market which does not favor fastbacks (really, no market does), the Stinger has usually outsold the G70 - US, Canada, Australia, Germany].

Hard to see a business case for a direct G70 replacement.

Also the same reason why a Genesis coupe would be more a 2-door version of the G80 than the G70.

The fact that the vehicle is being called the "GT1" means it won't be a big boat like the G80. The chauffeur role of Kia has already been relegated to the K8, which they even renamed from the K7 to denote its rise in status. Not to mention that the Stinger has always been a bigger vehicle than the G70. More importantly, the Stinger was on its deathbed globally well before they announced the cancellation, with the axing of the 4-cylinder in most global markets and getting the 2.5T years before the G70 to incentivize sales. G70 sales were double that of the Stinger in South Korea. HMG saw less of a case to keep that vehicle alive than the G70- yet an EV replacement is being developed anyway.

The only "Genesis coupe" we may be getting in the near future is the X, which has literally nothing to do with the sedans.

US, Canada, Australia, Germany

That the sales numbers are even within reach of each other in these countries despite Genesis not even having a proper dealer network in any of these countries says more about the Kia than it does the Genesis...

 

[Phastroh]

Boo

WHile car types and demand did play a role, I have been to numerous dealers and talked to many, many owners and most did not like the look of the newer G70.

It is not bad to me however the older style is a favorite of many. I am just one example of a G70 owever not willing to trade up fr the new style soely based off of looks.

My salesman told me he hears it every day from owners and buyers alike.

Can't be just one dealership saying it. I also cannot sit here and blame sales on the look of the car but I can say how I feel and when I hear from the dealership in fact 3 of them.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Boo

WHile car types and demand did play a role, I have been to numerous dealers and talked to many, many owners and most did not like the look of the newer G70.

It is not bad to me however the older style is a favorite of many. I am just one example of a G70 owever not willing to trade up fr the new style soely based off of looks.

My salesman told me he hears it every day from owners and buyers alike.

Can't be just one dealership saying it. I also cannot sit here and blame sales on the look of the car but I can say how I feel and when I hear from the dealership in fact 3 of them.

I've experienced the opposite. I had a 2019, now I have a 2023. It's pretty typical human behaviour not to like the new model but then you get used to the change, and it's pretty nice. So many people have told me it's a nice upgrade. It's inline with the Genesis design and they are selling alot of vehicles with this design language...

I still think the first gen is great though and wouldn't say a bad thing about it. It was just time for me to move on to a new car and I chose the G70 again over the IS500, M340 and S5.

 

[Volfy]

I too am partial to the pre-facelift, but I don't think the restyle is that bad. Only knock I can throw its way is that the two-line headlight styling doesn't work as well when scaled down to a compact sedan. I love the superman grill. The rest of the front grills also flow quite nicely cross the front fascia, which is something I cannot say about the pre-facelift lower/side grills. If it weren't for the headlights, I actually like the new front end quite a lot. The rest of the car is pretty much a draw for me either way.

Regardless, I doubt styling is that big a determining factor. Year-to-year sales numbers don't look all that drastically different pre- or post- facelift.