Real Winter range of GV60 Sport Plus

[Dougz]

Anyone else in the UK got a GV60 Sport Plus and can share their real-world range during the recent cold weather we've been seeing?

I'm getting 170 to 180miles on a full charge, when the outside temperature is 0 to 5 degrees. I was expecting over 200, but it's not to be.

Anyone else seeing similar figures?

Also, what do you find your range increases to in the Summer months?? I've not had it long enough to know what I'll be getting.

 

[steveinarizona]

Anyone else in the UK got a GV60 Sport Plus and can share their real-world range during the recent cold weather we've been seeing?

I'm getting 170 to 180miles on a full charge, when the outside temperature is 0 to 5 degrees. I was expecting over 200, but it's not to be.

Anyone else seeing similar figures?

Also, what do you find your range increases to in the Summer months?? I've not had it long enough to know what I'll be getting.

Your answers will be pretty meaningless without knowing, elevation changes, speed and driving style. All these impact on range as well as weather. Also short trips vs. longer trips. I find that the first mile is always awful for range (thank goodness I don't care).

 

[up_north]

I have a Premium and although I’m not comparing exactly the same journeys between summer and winter, I’m seeing more 2.9-3.1 miles per kWh at the end of every drive compared with mainly 3.4-3.8 in summer. My gut feeling is the range has dropped from an easy 270 to 230-ish.

 

[Looney100]

Your answers will be pretty meaningless without knowing, elevation changes, speed and driving style. All these impact on range as well as weather. Also short trips vs. longer trips. I find that the first mile is always awful for range (thank goodness I don't care).

Yup. Too many variables. Fortunately, the energy usage display can give you a sense as to how much is being used to maintain cabin temperature. I’ve found that until you cross below the freezing point, the heat pump does a good job and consumption doesn’t increase substantially. Around 0 to -5, resistive heat is needed and can meaningfully impact range.

 

[Dougz]

Thanks for the responses so far, however, I would still like to know your figures even if you believe them to be meaningless. Best case and worst case is good to know, and with a sizable data set, the numbers will tell the truth.

 

[Looney100]

I took a trip a couple weeks ago, for which I consumed over 100 kWh per 100km, which would indicate a range of less than 50 miles on a full charge.

A survey may get you an indication of maximum potential range, but far too much variability on the downside to be of use.

In moderate temperatures, when appropriately managing speed, I can get the advertised 368km.

 

[BruceGT3]

100% charge on Monday night = 226 mile range when I left for work at 7am on Tuesday, with an ambient of around 8-9°C

Back in the cold snap, it was showing me a 195-200 range, with -4 or -5°C ambient

 

[steveinarizona]

I realize I omitted another set of key factors: is the automobile garaged and was it preconditioned before leaving. More variables.

 

[Dougz]

Thanks for the info. Really useful.

 

[Looney100]

Thanks for the info. Really useful.

Be careful. We’ve got to different things being posted: 1) GOM range estimate at a full charge, and; 2) actual consumption/range experienced.
If you look at other threads here, you will see that the two are far from the same.

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[Dougz]

I expect the range of figures to be quite widespread, but I'm seeing by far the lowest actual range of anyone that's quoted so far. I've asked similar questions on LinkedIn and the results are similar, with nobody really seeing 170 mils on a full chrge in temperatures of 0 to 5deg. I'd have expected more, given my iPace got 200 miles, irrespective of time of year and temperature, and it was certainly nothing like as as aerodynamic as the GV60.

 

[Zcd1]

I expect the range of figures to be quite widespread, but I'm seeing by far the lowest actual range of anyone that's quoted so far. I've asked similar questions on LinkedIn and the results are similar, with nobody really seeing 170 mils on a full chrge in temperatures of 0 to 5deg. I'd have expected more, given my iPace got 200 miles, irrespective of time of year and temperature, and it was certainly nothing like as as aerodynamic as the GV60.

You should probably be focusing on your consumption in miles/KWH rather than the Guess-O-Meter’s range guess.

170 miles would equate to ~2.2 miles/KWH, which is low, but possible with a bunch of short trips or fast hwy driving in cool weather.

Our car averages more like 2.8-3.0 miles/KWH, which equates to 215-231 miles from 100% - 0%.

Oh and keep in mind that the i-Pace’s battery is 90-91 KWH, whereas the GV60’s is 77 KWH.

 

[Dougz]

I'm seeing 2.2 to 2.3 miles/kWh. The iPace has an 84kWh battery and is not affected much by cold weather, even without re-heating. I'm not a slow driver, but I'm also not driving like I stole the car. I drive the same as I did in the iPace and at 220 miles for almost every trip style in the iPace, I would have expected at least this kind of mileage in the GV60 given everyone's experience of what they're seeing. I'm not sure why I'm only seeing 2.2 to 2.3 miles/kWh, and hence 170 to 180 miles of range in cooler conditions.

 

[Zcd1]

I'm seeing 2.2 to 2.3 miles/kWh. The iPace has an 84kWh battery and is not affected much by cold weather, even without re-heating. I'm not a slow driver, but I'm also not driving like I stole the car. I drive the same as I did in the iPace and at 220 miles for almost every trip style in the iPace, I would have expected at least this kind of mileage in the GV60 given everyone's experience of what they're seeing. I'm not sure why I'm only seeing 2.2 to 2.3 miles/kWh, and hence 170 to 180 miles of range in cooler conditions.

The net/usable battery capacity comparison is ~84 vs. ~72 KWH, so using those figures, the GV60’s battery is 15% smaller than the i-Pace’s.

More importantly, the GV60 is among the fastest-charging (DCFC) EVs on the market, whereas the i-Pace is among the slowest.

As with any EV, there are myriad factors affecting overall range. Best advice is not to obsess over your efficiency results and instead simply enjoy the car!

 

[Zcd1]

One more thing: These test results suggest that the I-Pace’s range is indeed 20-40 miles longer than the GV60’s (using the Ioniq5 LR AWD and EV6 LR AWD as proxies for the GV60 Sport+)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WP6OsV5lmBoGNW4uCpERVQ/htmlview#gid=735351678

 

[Looney100]

The net/usable battery capacity comparison is ~84 vs. ~72 KWH, so using those figures, the GV60’s battery is 15% smaller than the i-Pace’s.

More importantly, the GV60 is among the fastest-charging (DCFC) EVs on the market, whereas the i-Pace is among the slowest.

As with any EV, there are myriad factors affecting overall range. Best advice is not to obsess over your efficiency results and instead simply enjoy the car!

Great points. I once saw something where they compared the time to travel some long-ish road-trip distance in various vehicles. The total time was a combination of battery size, efficiency, and charging speed. I thought that was practical metric to evaluate things.

 

[Zcd1]

Great points. I once saw something where they compared the time to travel some long-ish road-trip distance in various vehicles. The total time was a combination of battery size, efficiency, and charging speed. I thought that was practical metric to evaluate things.

And that’s why ABRP is such a useful tool. It allows easy comparison of total road-trip time in almost any EV.

The i-Pace might go slightly further than the GV60 between charges, but the GV60 is far quicker overall when charging time is factored in

I-Pace averages less than 4 miles per minute charging speed from 10-80%, whereas the E-GMP platform averages more than 10 miles per minute.

 

[Dougz]

The iPace should charge at 104kW max, but I never saw above 62kW, irrespective of SOC, temperature etc. It was a total nightmare, hence the GV60 now.

 

[Zcd1]

The iPace should charge at 104kW max, but I never saw above 62kW, irrespective of SOC, temperature etc. It was a total nightmare, hence the GV60 now.

And the GV60’s charging speed is the reason its slightly shorter range isn’t really a problem for most situations.

 

[Grayson]

And the GV60’s charging speed is the reason its slightly shorter range isn’t really a problem for most situations.

Charging is an issue now because most chargers are not giving the max 235kw-ish that the GV60 can take, but I'd imagine that in a few years, we'll have more stations and most will give us 235kw-ish.