New to Hyundai

[joeyg714]

hey everyone, i am a new to this forum and a very new Hyundai owner. Recently purchased a pre-owned Genesis v6. premium/tech/nav - fully loaded and i do love this car! i owned a 2008 bmw 335 cpe before this, and needed to save some money and get a bigger (family) car (pregnant wife). i think the car is great so far, only complaints are the engine seems a bit noisey, especially when its very cold out, and Hyundai service/customer satisfaction doesn't seem all it's cracked up to be.

obviously very few know about this car, and still relate the Hyundai name to cheap cars that are poorly made. that is one of the toughest things to get past.

are there any major compaints you guys face w/ the car from a mechanical point of view? those that have more than 30,000 miles or so, any longer term issues w/ them?

curious to know! thanks!!!

 

[SeismicGuy]

obviously very few know about this car, and still relate the Hyundai name to cheap cars that are poorly made. that is one of the toughest things to get past.

This has been my issue also as I have seriously been considering replacing my wife's 2000 Acura TL with the Genesis. I have to warn you that the response you may largely get from here is something like "how insecure you are if you worry about what other people think" or something to that effect. But, in truth, most of us make decisions about cars, clothes, jewelry, etc. based on the message we send about ourselves to others.

I am convinced that the Genesis is an attractively priced great car based on the little research I have done so far. As you point out, the undeserved stigma of Hyundai as an econo-box is the main hurdle. I was telling one of the women in my office about my starting to look around at cars for my wife. I was going down the list of possibilities (another Acura, Audi, Lexus, Infiniti) and when I got to Genesis, she asked me what that was. I told her it was an upscale Hyundai in the $30K to $40K price range and her response was "but it's a Hyundai?!?!?" The kicker is that this woman is Korean! Go figure.

Doug

 

[Sayantsi]

I have ~28k mi and the only problem I've had is my local service department because they are clueless. The car is great.

 

[dg_moore]

... most of us make decisions about cars, clothes, jewelry, etc. based on the message we send about ourselves to others

Some, perhaps, but most? I personally don't know anybody that would fall into that category. I guess I don't know the right people.

 

[SeismicGuy]

Some, perhaps, but most? I personally don't know anybody that would fall into that category. I guess I don't know the right people.

Yeah--I can see you don't really care which is obviously why you went for the Premium model rather than a base model, rebadged your car, got a special wood steering wheel, tinted your windows, etc.

Doug

 

[homeofstone]

Use the recommended oil and remember that your V6 is a solid lifter engine and will need adjustment about every 30,000 miles or about every two to three years if you put low miles on your car. Solid lifter engines tend to get loud when the valves need adjustment.

 

[dg_moore]

Yeah--I can see you don't really care which is obviously why you went for the Premium model rather than a base model, rebadged your car, got a special wood steering wheel, tinted your windows, etc.

Doug

Let's not get into a pi$$ing contest here - I did all of that for myself, not anybody else. I don't care one bit what anybody else thinks about it.

 

[SeismicGuy]

Let's not get into a pi$$ing contest here - I did all of that for myself, not anybody else. I don't care one bit what anybody else thinks about it.

Right, got it!

 

[Cut-Throat]

I am convinced that the Genesis is an attractively priced great car based on the little research I have done so far. As you point out, the undeserved stigma of Hyundai as an econo-box is the main hurdle. I was telling one of the women in my office about my starting to look around at cars for my wife. I was going down the list of possibilities (another Acura, Audi, Lexus, Infiniti) and when I got to Genesis, she asked me what that was. I told her it was an upscale Hyundai in the $30K to $40K price range and her response was "but it's a Hyundai?!?!?" The kicker is that this woman is Korean! Go figure.

Doug

You need to take a test drive. I own a Lexus Gs350 and 1 drive in Genesis convinced me that the Genesis was a better car than the ES or GS. I don't care what other people think, I'm buying the best car.

 

[SeismicGuy]

You need to take a test drive. I own a Lexus Gs350 and 1 drive in Genesis convinced me that the Genesis was a better car than the ES or GS. I don't care what other people think, I'm buying the best car.

I am not arguing that point. I am pretty convinced the car compares very well with the Lexus ES, GS and other upscale cars at a very attractive price. It is on this basis that I will hopefully end up buying the car (unless there is something dismal about the test drive which I am sure will not be the case). I will do this in spite of what other people think, but what I am pointing out is the fact that virtually every time I am talking with friends, co-workers, acquaintances about cars that I am considering, when I get to mentioning the Hyundai I get puzzled looks and responses like "Hyundai???".

This was the subject put forth by the OP. The debate is not whether or not the Genesis deserves to be dismissed because it is a Hyundai, or the virtues of the car, but rather the fact that the perception out there is what it is.

Again, there would probably not have been this perception had Hyundai opted to spin off an entirely separate division. I cannot think of another auto manufacturer that has such a broad range of models from basic $10K or less econoboxes all the way to the $60K+ luxury model (forthcoming EQUUS). If having such a huge range of models was such a good business model, we wouldn't have Cadillac (GM), Lincoln (Ford), Audi (Volkswagon), Acura (Honda), Lexus (Toyota), Infiniti (Nissan) and probably others. As savvy as Hyundai has been in terms of styling and marketing, this decision to cover the entire gamut of pricing just seems weird.

Doug

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[Cut-Throat]

but what I am pointing out is the fact that virtually every time I am talking with friends, co-workers, acquaintances about cars that I am considering, when I get to mentioning the Hyundai I get puzzled looks and responses like "Hyundai???".

This was the subject put forth by the OP. The debate is not whether or not the Genesis deserves to be dismissed because it is a Hyundai, or the virtues of the car, but rather the fact that the perception out there is what it is.

Again, there would probably not have been this perception had Hyundai opted to spin off an entirely separate division. I cannot think of another auto manufacturer that has such a broad range of models from basic $10K or less econoboxes all the way to the $60K+ luxury model (forthcoming EQUUS). If having such a huge range of models was such a good business model, we wouldn't have Cadillac (GM), Lincoln (Ford), Audi (Volkswagon), Acura (Honda), Lexus (Toyota), Infiniti (Nissan) and probably others. As savvy as Hyundai has been in terms of styling and marketing, this decision to cover the entire gamut of pricing just seems weird.

Doug

Yeah, and maybe this is why you can buy the car for $40 Grand, instead of $60 Grand.

Skip the fancy dealerships and smooshing and save the consumer $20 Grand on the car! - Works for me!

Once, the general public starts gushing about the Genesis, the prices will rise and the quality will dip. I saw this with Lexus! And I have bought my last Lexus!

 

[joeyg714]

i want to tahnk everyone for their responses, and i agree and disagree w/ a lot of what you guys say.

first off - i already bought the car, love it, and think it is better than anything costing 10k more! otherwise i wudn't have bought it. i work way to hard for the little amount of money i make to waste it on a name. so i am already sold on the car, my point is, no one else has any idea about it. which in my mind is good and bad. when i tell a coworker about the car, i get blank stares and "never heard of it" but anyone that has seen it in the parking lot, or on a trip to the local bar for lunch, they love it. and am impressed w/ it.

i'm only worried really about the longer term durability of the car. did hyundai actually get the kinks out? or is it simply like "putting make-up on a pig?"

one thing i do notice, is the VERY few that do know of the car, are always extremely excited when i tell them i bought it, and all dying to see it!

great car, and i can't wait to learn more about it on here!

 

[cschuler]

Originally Posted by SeismicGuy
... most of us make decisions about cars, clothes, jewelry, etc. based on the message we send about ourselves to others

Some, perhaps, but most? I personally don't know anybody that would fall into that category. I guess I don't know the right people.

This (attitude) varies by age, education, culture, economic class, locale, and so on. This is the fodder of marketing analysis and Madison Ave.

It is too complex to debate here.

If you care what others think, then brand image is certainly a consideration. Otherwise, go for value.

My long dead uncle bought a Packard in the '50s and was asked why he didn't get a cadillac. His answer: "My boss drives a Cadillac."

 

[OldSpice]

But, in truth, most of us make decisions about cars, clothes, jewelry, etc. based on the message we send about ourselves to others. Doug

I proudly shine my Hyundai "H" every morning

 

[dg_moore]

Originally Posted by SeismicGuy
... most of us make decisions about cars, clothes, jewelry, etc. based on the message we send about ourselves to others



This (attitude) varies by age, education, culture, economic class, locale, and so on. This is the fodder of marketing analysis and Madison Ave.

It is too complex to debate here.

If you care what others think, then brand image is certainly a consideration. Otherwise, go for value.

My long dead uncle bought a Packard in the '50s and was asked why he didn't get a cadillac. His answer: "My boss drives a Cadillac."

Maybe we need a Senior Genesis Owners sub-forum so the young whippersnappers can have a place of their own .

 

[SeismicGuy]

Maybe we need a Senior Genesis Owners sub-forum so the young whippersnappers can have a place of their own .

Hey, hey, hey!

 

[cschuler]

Maybe we need a Senior Genesis Owners sub-forum so the young whippersnappers can have a place of their own .

I don't want to be set aside from youth. Just me.

 

[Gurkha]

I am also new to Hyundai after driving Accords for the last 20 years. Have only bought Honda and Toyota products in the past 25 years.
I am not a lux type buyer: premium gas, high parts & maintenance costs and just 'bang for the buck' have kept me away.
Where I live German and Japanese luxury cars are everywhere, just like Accords and Camrys. Part of the appeal of the Genesis to me is that you see very few of them on the roads.
Most people that I've talked to have no idea about Hyundai's products, let alone the Genesis. Mention the Equus and you risk a totally blank stare.
My Genesis that I've had for 2 days is everything I thought it would be, including the ride.
Sure there's bound to be issues, especially for a first year new model from any manufacturer. From my point of view, the Japanese have dropped the ball over the last few years, and I did not even consider buying another Honda or Toyota product this time around.

 

[Dan Young]

Re: New to Hyundai/True Story

Hi,

A recently got a 2010 4.6, cabernet red Genesis. I think the care looks really good. On Thursday, I was out a local wine shop. When I finished up, I walked out to my car. A guy and his wife were standing next to their 350e black benz, and the guy walked over to me. He said-"excuse me, is that your car?" I told him it was. He said, "your car is beautiful- what kind of car is it?" I told him Hyundai genesis, and he seemed a little puzzled. He then told me he thought it was a Bentley. I laughed. He asked the price of the car, and he just said wow, the car is beautiful.

The perception of Hyundai is slowly changing for the better.

 

[msitter]

I love my Genesis and do not care what anyone else thinks about it. My wife drives a BMW and has commented on how much better the Genesis drives and rides. The Genesis has never had to go back to the dealer and the BMW is back there often to repair the myriad of electronic sensors that routinely fail. If Hyundai made a premium convertible the BMW would be gone in a heartbeat.