Increase Lexicon volume/gain

[gadgetboyatl]

Has anyone been able to get there Lexicon to play with more volume? Maybe a way to turn up the "gain" on the amplifier?

 

[STREETS]

Why? Not loud enough for you? I would be afraid of turning the volume much past 75% in fear of blowing speakers

 

[Johnboy2k10]

I agree. Needs to be louder. Not a chance those speakers are blowing. (4.6 w/ tech)

 

[STREETS]

At 75% volume- I can hear the music with all windows up 4 houses away.
Of course if you are a degenerate that I can hear the bass cranked to the point of low frequency tremors and the rattling of the car shaking itself to pieces a block away- your deafness may require more decibels.

 

[gadgetboyatl]

At 75% volume- I can hear the music with all windows up 4 houses away.
Of course if you are a degenerate that I can hear the bass cranked to the point of low frequency tremors and the rattling of the car shaking itself to pieces a block away- your deafness may require more decibels.

What are you talking about? The bass on this car couldn't rattle its own license plate. If you don't have anything constructive or helpful to say, on topic, there are plenty of hate sites waiting for your posts today. Be gone idiot.

 

[Gambler]

What are you talking about? The bass on this car couldn't rattle its own license plate. If you don't have anything constructive or helpful to say, on topic, there are plenty of hate sites waiting for your posts today. Be gone idiot.

I think he was trying to point out that the system gets pretty loud, and that if you need to turn the speakers up there may be something wrong with your system (or your ears). He didn't state the bass was loud either, he's saying if you're the type who plays their bass so you can hear it blocks away, then you might require it to be louder. It is documented the bass could use some help, see the Anemic Bass thread for the discussion, and what people have done for aftermarket solutions.

Keep it civil.

 

[gadgetboyatl]

I think he was trying to point out that the system gets pretty loud, and that if you need to turn the speakers up there may be something wrong with your system (or your ears). He didn't state the bass was loud either, he's saying if you're the type who plays their bass so you can hear it blocks away, then you might require it to be louder. It is documented the bass could use some help, see the Anemic Bass thread for the discussion, and what people have done for aftermarket solutions.

Keep it civil.

Your right in that I shouldn't let his type get me riled up. I see what you are saying although it is not at all in the snotty spirit he was stating. I never said anything about bass in my original post so he just came out of left field with that. Anyone who reads his post can see he was just being a jerk and not at all trying to be of any help("Of course if you are a degenerate", a degenerate? really?). ANYWAY...

I still need some ideas or experience of anyone who would appreciate more overall volume say like when you are cruising down the interstate at interstate speeds with the windows down and you just want to rock out

 

[STREETS]

Exactly Gambler. The Lexicon gets EXTREMELY loud and I play my music loud. Hi-Fidelity, 5.1 surround, 14 speakers with crisp highs, deep lows and wattage make the audio in this car superb. Wattage does not equal decibels. I have bass pre-set at 6 or 7 depending on the source and it suits me fine.

I was referring to other aftermarket systems installed in cars that you can hear & feel them coming before they even come across the horizon. If this is the preferred level of bass- hearing damage is the result of needing more volume on the Lexicon.

As mentioned previously- Hitting the voice command on the wheel and stating "cancel" sometimes cancels the NAV pre-amp control on the audio system to proper music settings.

 

[PSL]

As mentioned previously- Hitting the voice command on the wheel and stating "cancel" sometimes cancels the NAV pre-amp control on the audio system to proper music settings.

The anemic bass was an issue with the the 2009 4.8 with Tech package, but was easily fixed by the Navi software update, which fixed a few more electronic bugs, like the week base you mention here. I hope that is not an issue with the 2012's.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

Your right in that I shouldn't let his type get me riled up. I see what you are saying although it is not at all in the snotty spirit he was stating. I never said anything about bass in my original post so he just came out of left field with that. Anyone who reads his post can see he was just being a jerk and not at all trying to be of any help("Of course if you are a degenerate", a degenerate? really?). ANYWAY...

I still need some ideas or experience of anyone who would appreciate more overall volume say like when you are cruising down the interstate at interstate speeds with the windows down and you just want to rock out

And while you're at it, GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!

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[wadebbi]

I have the 2012 with Premium package. I feel the Lexicon is fine, but far from awesome. The system sounds tinny to me. I've tried the equalizer with no satisfaction. I also noticed that much of the audio seems to come from the center, even when surround is turned off.

Good luck with your search.

 

[mikec]

wadebbi -

With the car parked and your stereo ON, go to each speaker one by one and verify each speaker actually functions. There have been a couple of posts/threads regarding dead speakers - in one case a door speaker simply wasn't connected!

The "HD" mode on FM broadcasts took a little getting used to for me; I felt the very high audio frequencies were a bit too loud and possibly distorted; it reminded me of older Cerwin-Vega speakers than an audiophile buddy of mine once called "crunchy" sounding. Turning the treble down didn't really help; that lowered the "low end of treble frequencies" too much while the "high end of treble frequencies" was still too pronounced.

For other sources though I like my 17-speaker Lexicon sound; it's made it harder to enjoy the stereos in my other cars. I've dialed up the treble a bit on those cars (equalizer) now that I know what I've been missing. I leave the surround setting ON at all times; I think it sounds far better this way. With surround OFF, the "mapping" of stereo channels to the various speakers is less than ideal leading to flat sounding music - in my opinion. One thing about the 17 speaker setup: from the driver's seat, I don't get that immersed-on-all-sides in sound sensation that I've experienced in other cars - i.e. I can't adjust it to seem like I'm dead-center in the orchestra. For the best tonal qualities, I have the fader control set one or two clicks rearwards which leaves the sound coming from the front still... any further rearwards seems to alter the tonal qualities too much. One of these days I'll have to sit in the back seat and see how it sounds with the "B" pillar speakers - I wouldn't be surprised if the rear seat gets a more centered feeling based on the idea that the "owner" is in the back seat... the chauffeur is in the front seat.

mike c.

 

[Badgerry]

I too noticed too much sound from the center, not enough from the sides. I wondered if this could be adjusted, just as I adjust the center/sides levels in my home theater. For now, I've got the balance two clicks to the left, and the fader 1 click to the rear--that seems passable.

I have had a 17-speaker setup in a loaner 2011, and I must admit that it is significantly better than the 14-speaker one in my 2010. But there is good bass in mine--if you don't think it is there, make sure your source has real bass in it (that rules out AM, FM, XM, Eminem, and even M&M).

 

[mathguy]

I agree wadebbi. I acquired a 2010 3.8 premium(14 spkr lexicon) in June and feel it doesn't match up to the Bose premium system in my former Altima. Sorry if that offends anyone but it just needs more "oomph", especially with the bass. And before someone says get better material, I listen to the FM mostly and used to be prerfectly happy with audio quality on the Bose. Other than that, I am happy with the car; and intend to try Car Toys or someone to see if they can improve things. I read the threads from the true audiophiles but am not interested or expert enough to start adding bass speakers to the rear etc.

 

[Badgerry]

But "better material" IS the issue if you mainly listen to FM. The FM broadcast frequency range is 50-15k Hz. The top end limitation (human hearing goes to about 20kHz) is no big deal since it would be wiped out by ambient (esp. road) noise anyway. But at the other end, over an octave is missing since human hearing goes down to about 20Hz.

Is that the problem then? Well, there isn't much really deep bass in most recordings anyway, unless you're a pipe organ fanatic. But there's another issue --FM broadcasts are almost always heavily compressed (dynamic range is reduced by lowering the level of loud sounds and raising the level of quiet ones). I'm thankful for this because I have a radio show in which I play some classical music with a wide dynamic range, but it certainly means that what you hear is not a faithful reproduction of the source material (assuming CDs).

I welcome correction from the more technically savvy (which I am not), but I know enough to assure you that FM is part of "oomph"-deprived situation. No car audio system can overcome the limitations of the source itself.

 

[Johnboy2k10]

I agree. Needs to be louder. Not a chance those speakers are blowing. (4.6 w/ tech)

When I posted this, I was specifically referring to concert DVDs (Not DVD-a). I bought a whole whack of 'em and the low end is not as good with that material as it is with CDs or even my iPod. The treble or high frequencies are fine and clean, but there's just not as much punch with that source material IMHO.

I don't buy DVD-A because none of the music I am interested in has been produced on that format.

Also, does anyone else feel like XM can sound like a low bit rate MP3 at times, or is that just me?

 

[PSL]

Also, does anyone else feel like XM can sound like a low bit rate MP3 at times, or is that just me?

I agree that XM sounds like lower bit rate mp3's on this system - I guess because it is a great system that allows one to hear all of it.

To my hearing (not scientific) from worst to best sounding in the Lexicon 17 speaker system are the following:
FM radio
XM radio
CD disc
HD FM radio
Concert DVD - 5.1
DVD-A

Again, this is not scientific, but just the way I hear it. I do find, as others have mentioned, that each source needs to have adjustments made to the equalizer and fader to get the best sound, and I do enjoy all the listed sources in my Genesis 4.6 w/ tech - just some more than others.