Non R-Spec 5.0 (2012) on Hyundaiusa.com

[coopmike]

There is a fourth option now, a non-R-Spec 5.0 on hyundai's website. Are they switching engines mid-year?

 

[Mark_888]

There is a fourth option now, a non-R-Spec 5.0 on hyundai's website. Are they switching engines mid-year?

Certainly looks that way. Now you can get the 5.0 without the "sport-tuned" back-breaking suspension of the R-Spec. They will probably drop the 4.6 as soon as inventory runs out.

 

[TJPark01]

no point in keeping the 4.6, it's redundant. The 5.0 come with 18 inch tires and should be less punishing over the crappy roads in this country.

 

[Ernie3647]

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=7605&highlight=ernie3647

 

[m5trader]

The R-Spec suspension is far from back breaking. I haven't driven a 4.6 but if they could get the price on a Genesis with the 5.0 down to around 35k after rebates I would swear my allegiance to Hyundai.

 

[jmo51]

The R-Spec suspension is far from back breaking. I haven't driven a 4.6 but if they could get the price on a Genesis with the 5.0 down to around 35k after rebates I would swear my allegiance to Hyundai.

I have to agree that the R-Spec suspension is far from back breaking. If I would have wanted a Sedan Deville, I would have bought one. So far I'm more than impressed with the R-Spec.

By far the best bang for the buck out there. JMHO

 

[homeofstone]

The 5.0 does come in white, silver and black.

 

[Driver]

What would be the price difference of 5.0 and r-spec?

 

[Mark_888]

What would be the price difference of 5.0 and r-spec?

5.0 is $1,000 less than R-Spec, so midway between 4.6 and R-Spec.

 

[Mark_888]

I have to agree that the R-Spec suspension is far from back breaking. If would have wanted a Sedan Deville, I would have bought one. So far I'm more than impressed with the R-Spec.

By far the best bang for the buck out there. JMHO

Several automotive press reviewers said the R-Spec was "unnecessarily harsh." However, it should be fine on relatively smooth payment.

Neither the 4.6 nor the new 5.0 ride like a Sedan Deville and both are still relatively firm, so your comment seems like a non sequitur.

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[MHT]

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[jmo51]

Several automotive press reviewers said the R-Spec was "unnecessarily harsh." However, it should be fine on relatively smooth payment.

Neither the 4.6 nor the new 5.0 ride like a Sedan Deville and both are still relatively firm, so your comment seems like a non sequitur.

Matter of opinion i guess. I'm very content with the ride and handling my R-Spec provides. For me any less firm would be too soft. Seems that those who don't like a firm ride should stick with the softer riding 3.8 or 4.6. Again, it's a matter of opinion and personal preference.

BTW, there are also reviews of the R-Spec that praise the ride and handling.

Enjoy your 3.8 as I will enjoy my R-Spec.

 

[YEH]

Several automotive press reviewers said the R-Spec was "unnecessarily harsh." However, it should be fine on relatively smooth payment.

Neither the 4.6 nor the new 5.0 ride like a Sedan Deville and both are still relatively firm, so your comment seems like a non sequitur.

And others didn't have as much as an issue w/ it.

These days many auto scribes find a lot of cars on the harsh side (even on relatively mundane models); the comments on the R-Spec suspension haven't been any worse than that for the Infiniti M (maybe a little better).

But yeah, should someone used to a softer ride pick the R-Spec? No.

 

[newman]

Back-breaking? The use of this word constitutes hyperbole.

Cheers
Newman

 

[Mark_888]

Enjoy your 3.8 as I will enjoy my R-Spec.

My early 2009 Genesis was stiffer than your R-Spec, at least until I upgraded the suspension to 2010/2011 specs.

 

[Mark_888]

And others didn't have as much as an issue w/ it.

Only because they didn't try it on a any rough roads. R-Spec is nowhere near as compliant as BMW 550i, even though BMW is firmer. Compliant is not necessarily synonymous with cushy.

You have been making excuses for the Genesis suspension for 3 years, even denying (at least while old inventory was still available) any of the improvements Hyundai has made over the years. We all know that is because you have some association with Hyundai or its dealer network.

My prediction is that when the 5.0 is widely available, it will crush the R-Spec in sales volume.

 

[jmo51]

My early 2009 Genesis was stiffer than your R-Spec, at least until I upgraded the suspension to 2010/2011 specs.

Not sure I get your point?? Seems like you prefer a softer ride than I.

As I said, enjoy your 09 3,8 as I will my 12 R-Spec.

 

[jmo51]

Only because they didn't try it on a any rough roads. R-Spec is nowhere near as compliant as BMW 550i, even though BMW is firmer. Compliant is not necessarily synonymous with cushy.

You have been making excuses for the Genesis suspension for 3 years, even denying (at least while old inventory was still available) any of the improvements Hyundai has made over the years. We all know that is because you have some association with Hyundai or its dealer network.

My prediction is that when the 5.0 is widely available, it will crush the R-Spec in sales volume.

Is it just me or does the member seem to an issue with the R-Spec? I'm new here but it seems really obvious.

Mark, since you are so knowledgeable of the BMW 550 and the Geni R-Spec, would you mind posting the MSRP for similarly equipped vehicles??? The price diff might explain the compliant issue you refer to.

When it comes to bang for the buck, the R-Spec smokes the field.

 

[Corellian Corvette]

Anything about performance of the 5.0 in non-Rspec trim? Same HP, 0-60?

If so - that's a bummer. Would like to at least have the performance advantage for a year or so

So what do you get with the R-spec then? Wheels, blacked-out woodgrain and floor mats?

 

[jmo51]

Anything about performance of the 5.0 in non-Rspec trim? Same HP, 0-60?

If so - that's a bummer. Would like to at least have the performance advantage for a year or so

So what do you get with the R-spec then? Wheels, blacked-out woodgrain and floor mats?

Hard to say

As of the 2012 model year three engines are available in the updated Genesis sedan. There’s the new 3.8-liter V6 producing 333-hp, the 4.6-liter V8 making 385-hp and the big boy R-Spec 5.0-liter V8 that cranks out 429-hp. According to a series of tweets by InsideLine Senior Editor Erin Riches, Hyundai has complained that the 4.6-liter is too costly to re-certify for emissions. While unconfirmed, the assumption here is that the 5.0-liter could be offered in a detuned form for standard models, or that the current R-Spec version with 429-hp will become the new base engine with an even more potent R-Spec for 2013.