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Guys I have done a pretty good job of papering my new Genesis, 4.6 only has 3k on it. Twice now when it starts it sounded like a Rod knocking on startup and Smoke rolling out of the exhaust. enought to fill the basement. After 10 to 15 seconds it cleared up. Anyone had or heard of this issue?
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Car is in the Shop now we will see what they come ujp with.
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Car is in the Shop now we will see what they come ujp with.
Hi...my 2009 Genesis is in the shop with similar issues at 42K miles. The left bank lifters were changed at 38K miles. Helped the occassional ticking...but still ocassionally it would lifter click upon start both cold and hot start conditions. The dealer had misfiring codes this time so they checked deeper...the left bank oil control valve to the cam phasers was bad. They are waiting for the part now...3-5 days!! Come on Hyundai...parts should be avaliable overnight...not 3-5 days!! Get with it.

Hope this solves the problem. I like to car and am considering a 2013 R spec as the replacement.
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Hi...my 2009 Genesis is in the shop with similar issues at 42K miles. The left bank lifters were changed at 38K miles. Helped the occassional ticking...but still ocassionally it would lifter click upon start both cold and hot start conditions. The dealer had misfiring codes this time so they checked deeper...the left bank oil control valve to the cam phasers was bad. They are waiting for the part now...3-5 days!! Come on Hyundai...parts should be avaliable overnight...not 3-5 days!! Get with it.

Hope this solves the problem. I like to car and am considering a 2013 R spec as the replacement.


Update: the cam phaser oil control valve was replaced and seemed OK for a day. Then it hit again....some symptoms...mis-fires below 1500 RPM. Did not want to risk engine damage...dealer had it flat bed towed to the dealership. It sure seems like the engine ECU that controls the cam phasers is either getting bad cam position feedback...or....the ECU is defective. Either way the dealer is going to dig deeper on Monday. I will advise the outcome when more is known.
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Update: the cam phaser oil control valve was replaced and seemed OK for a day. Then it hit again....some symptoms...mis-fires below 1500 RPM. Did not want to risk engine damage...dealer had it flat bed towed to the dealership. It sure seems like the engine ECU that controls the cam phasers is either getting bad cam position feedback...or....the ECU is defective. Either way the dealer is going to dig deeper on Monday. I will advise the outcome when more is known.

Update #2 as of 7-Dec-2011: The dealer Tech checked codes and had some new ones. After the tech confered with Hyundai Tech folks...they concluded to change the left bank intake cam phaser and the chain tensioner for same. Frankly...I don't think this is going to cure the problem. It seems more like a control or position feedback / control issue. We shall see. I am losing faith in Hyundai Tech Service to diagnose and cure the problems. If they do not get it this time....I am going to start action to have this car replaced as a lemon. I am an engineer and 30+ year member of SAE. I've developed engines for years. The Hyundai folks have not been able to answer the questions to my satisfaction. It sure seems like they are throwing darts. The local dealer guys are at the mercy of the Hyundai techs. The dealer guys are just parts changers with very little diagnostic skills to find root causes and solve the problems. Very frustrating.
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Update #2 as of 7-Dec-2011: The dealer Tech checked codes and had some new ones. After the tech confered with Hyundai Tech folks...they concluded to change the left bank intake cam phaser and the chain tensioner for same. Frankly...I don't think this is going to cure the problem. It seems more like a control or position feedback / control issue. We shall see. I am losing faith in Hyundai Tech Service to diagnose and cure the problems. If they do not get it this time....I am going to start action to have this car replaced as a lemon. I am an engineer and 30+ year member of SAE. I've developed engines for years. The Hyundai folks have not been able to answer the questions to my satisfaction. It sure seems like they are throwing darts. The local dealer guys are at the mercy of the Hyundai techs. The dealer guys are just parts changers with very little diagnostic skills to find root causes and solve the problems. Very frustrating.
Update #3 as of Sat 10-Dec-2011. DEaler guys are still waiting on parts. It is supposed to be ready by next Tuesday 13-Dec-2011///we shall see. I have called and talked to Hyundai "care center". I asked to talk to someone who is technically competent, but to no avail. These folks are pleasant enough but simply quote the script and offer condolences for the problem encountered. I went up the food chain to supervisor level and strongly requested to have the region service guy call me to discuss. He finally did and was very, very rude and unhelpful. Could not answer any technical questions and refused to discuss the issues...he told me to talk to the dealer. This guy needs to go live under a rock and never be allowed to insult customers again. My dealer is a friend whose people are doing everything possible to resolve and correct the issues...but...they are at the mercy of Hyundai Techs who seem to not be able to find the root causes of my issues. The dealer is holding up their end of the deal but Hyundai is not in my opinion. ARE YOU LISTENING HYUNDAI??
I was considering a 2013 R Spec....but not now. I am done after being insulted by this regional service moron. Simply no excuse.
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Update #3 as of Sat 10-Dec-2011. DEaler guys are still waiting on parts. It is supposed to be ready by next Tuesday 13-Dec-2011///we shall see. I have called and talked to Hyundai "care center". I asked to talk to someone who is technically competent, but to no avail. These folks are pleasant enough but simply quote the script and offer condolences for the problem encountered. I went up the food chain to supervisor level and strongly requested to have the region service guy call me to discuss. He finally did and was very, very rude and unhelpful. Could not answer any technical questions and refused to discuss the issues...he told me to talk to the dealer. This guy needs to go live under a rock and never be allowed to insult customers again. My dealer is a friend whose people are doing everything possible to resolve and correct the issues...but...they are at the mercy of Hyundai Techs who seem to not be able to find the root causes of my issues. The dealer is holding up their end of the deal but Hyundai is not in my opinion. ARE YOU LISTENING HYUNDAI??
I was considering a 2013 R Spec....but not now. I am done after being insulted by this regional service moron. Simply no excuse.

Update #4 as of 15-Dec-2011. Car still at the dealer. The changed the LH intake cam phaser and the LH intake chain tensioner on 13-Dec. Hyundai tech call the dealer just prior to starting the engine after changing the parts. They directed the dealer to dis-assemble the engine again and crank it without firing the engine and to observe if the chain tensioner took the slack out of the chain. This is not written in any service manual or online proceedure fro Hyundai, just "tribal knowledge" within Hyundai it seems. The theory is that there is an oil pressure check valve in the chain tensioner that must be oil charged to retain tension on the chain. If there is slack, then the cam timing is not correct and mis-fires result. Imagine that! I told the surley regional service guy that I thought the cams were out of postion due to bad position feedback....in theory this is what was occuring. We shall see...supposed to get the car back tomorrow 16-Dec-2011. The dealer guys want to drive it for a day or so to verify if it is OK or not.
TJPark01
We shall see...supposed to get the car back tomorrow 16-Dec-2011. The dealer guys want to drive it for a day or so to verify if it is OK or not.
Dear god man, how long have they had the car?
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Dear god man, how long have they had the car?

All together since 25-Nov-2011. Yes I have had a loaner. Go back to my previous posts for the history on this deal. The Hyundai regional service guy is simply a moron.

The dealer is a friend...so after this is done and the dust settles a bit...I am going to request a replacement Genesis....not just an engine. We shall see...stay tuned.
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Interesting, I am afraid I will end up with the same issue. I have a great recording of the noise now. Took it into the dealer and they listened to it. They said it is becomming more common in the Technical reports they use. The final solution so far is they have said there is a new Oil filter out with a valve to prevent bleed down of the oil line. We did a oil change and will see. They also sayt it is neccessary to chang the oil every 3750 miles; the Manual says 7500. They keep it for about 1/2 week and said they couldn't duplicate the issue. I will see what happens, if the problem persist I think they are going to have to do something for me. I have had it in the shop twice now.
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Interesting, I am afraid I will end up with the same issue. I have a great recording of the noise now. Took it into the dealer and they listened to it. They said it is becomming more common in the Technical reports they use. The final solution so far is they have said there is a new Oil filter out with a valve to prevent bleed down of the oil line. We did a oil change and will see. They also sayt it is neccessary to chang the oil every 3750 miles; the Manual says 7500. They keep it for about 1/2 week and said they couldn't duplicate the issue. I will see what happens, if the problem persist I think they are going to have to do something for me. I have had it in the shop twice now.

Happend to my car once, so I had an engine oil analysis done

"SCOTT: Universal averages show typical wear levels for Hyundai's 4.6L V-8 engine after about 3,500 miles
on the oil. You ran your oil just 2,500 miles and everything looks very good in this report. We liked your note
stating that drive your car "pretty darn hard". Hard use can cause a bit of extra wear that is mainly found at
iron (from steel parts). Iron wear also increases with oil use, so your iron was a touch above average for
2,500 miles of use, but not enough to suggest you should stop having fun in your Genesis! Your engine is
looking very good at 19,500 miles. Cool car!"

See the thread for full discription

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=5867
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All together since 25-Nov-2011. Yes I have had a loaner. Go back to my previous posts for the history on this deal. The Hyundai regional service guy is simply a moron.

The dealer is a friend...so after this is done and the dust settles a bit...I am going to request a replacement Genesis....not just an engine. We shall see...stay tuned.

The story continues.....unfortunately. When all of the previous work was done, I finally got the car back before Christmas. Seemed OK. Went away for 2 weeksin Jan and when I returned started to notice a burned oil smell. Checked under the hood did not see anything obvious. Smell continued, finally saw that there was a major oil leak from the left side where the work was done. Oil level down 2.5 qts. Took to dealer who re-gasketed the previous work done. Today 2-Mar-2012 is one day after received back and it sounds like an old Singer sewing machine. Took back to dealer and advised him that I AM DONE. As far as I am concerned they own the car and I want it replaced....do not want a new engine...replace the car. PERIOD. My opinion is that the TAU engine has a serious design flaw in the way the cam timing chain tensoner system is designed and how it maintains the proper amount of tension. I am very qualified to make this statement. I am a 32 yr member of SAE and hold BSME and MSME degrees. I have developed engines for 30+ years. End of story.
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Update No 2

The car has been in the shop for 24 days now. They have replaced the oil sensor, cam sensor, camshaft(s) and now they are replacing lifters.

There is no end in sight. While I loved the car, I have now lost all confidence in Hyundai and my car.

In all of my prior years of owning BMW, Audi, Mercedes and Lexus, my car had never been in the shop even overnight before.
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Update No 2

The car has been in the shop for 24 days now. They have replaced the oil sensor, cam sensor, camshaft(s) and now they are replacing lifters.

There is no end in sight. While I loved the car, I have now lost all confidence in Hyundai and my car.

In all of my prior years of owning BMW, Audi, Mercedes and Lexus, my car had never been in the shop even overnight before.

Your saga sounds like a duplicate of my experience. The dealer techs are at Hyundai' s mercy. Hyundai seems to be clueless on my car, and they do not communicate ell at all with the dealer techs and refuse to talk to me. I could help them if there was someone techically competent at Hyundai to rationally discuss this and try to discover the root cause. So far Hyundai refused to talk and it seems like they are just throwing darts blindly. As I have mentioned, I have zero confidence in the car and it needs to be replaced by Hyundai.
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I know this is an old thread but thought it worth my story. Same issue, 4.6L V8 hates to start and be turned off after a few seconds. Upon restarting, even hours later, I get the loud knocking, smell of metal coming out the tailpipe, and occasionally the check engine light which shows up as a misfire. For years dealer could not duplicate. At 97k miles, I took it in and wanted it known that if that engine blows up after the warranty due to this issue, I had brought it in under warranty several times and Hyundai was going to buy me a new engine. The dealer was finally able to duplicate the issue, documented it, reached out to corporate and now getting me a brand new engine. Approval came last week. Parts list alone is over $7,000; thank the Lord for the 100k mile warranty. It's a weird defect, no diagnosis of the cause, just that Hyundai is buying me a new engine.
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I was driving to visit with my son and grandkids when I got the dreaded message of an electrical failure and direction to pull over and park the car. About fifteen miles from home and from the dealership. Annoying since the car had just been in for the ICCU recall. It was a Sunday and it took hours for Genesis to find me a tow truck and driver. Of course the dealership was closed (at least the standalone service part) so I had to UBER home.

Now I am driving an almost new GV70 with the 2.5 liter engine. What a dog! No longer having a GV60P with its more than 500 foot pounds of torque the acceleration from a stop is awful. I am going to have to recognize that my acceleration is so comparatively slow. The loaner also has no HUD which I have become accustomed to and rely upon. My service advisor told me that they only have one electric loaner but he is putting a tag on it so that when it comes back they can switch me out to it.

This makes me realize how much I do love my GV60P and want it back. But it may be a while. My service advisor told me that they are not even taking cars into the shop today for repair. There is a 48 hour delay on that because of a backup. He said that was because there are only three Genesis dealerships in the Valley. IMO that is a BS excuse. There are only 4 BMW dealerships in the area and they are able to service their customers (I assume based on my prior experience as a BMW owner).

It will be interesting to see how long they keep it and that may determine whether in the future I stay with Genesis or move on. If they are going to be keeping my little pocket rocket for an extended period, I would want a loaner that is at least equal to what I gave them to repair!
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gvca
They got back to me today confirming that it was indeed the ICCU as well as a fuse that will be replaced under warranty. Hopefully this replacement goes smoothly, my new 12V is okay, and this can be put in the past. I will ask about what part number they replaced it with when I pick up the car.
prawlin
They got back to me today confirming that it was indeed the ICCU as well as a fuse that will be replaced under warranty. Hopefully this replacement goes smoothly, my new 12V is okay, and this can be put in the past. I will ask about what part number they replaced it with when I pick up the car.
That’s all good. I bet it was the fuse rupturing (with 700V DC at virtually unlimited current into a sudden dead short!) that created the smoke and smell. Also I believe the fuse is external to an otherwise fully sealed ICCU box.

Will be very interesting to see if the replacement ICCU part number supports the new revised hardware ICCU rumours. If so, that should mean you’re unlikely to see this issue again. Fingers crossed. Peter.
gvca
Okay so I got my vehicle back. Here's the diagnosis:

- FOUND PA19096 DC/DC CONVERTER INPUT VOLTAGE SENSOR FAILURE (I think this is a typo for P1A9096)
- FOUND ICCU SHOWING SIGNS OF OVER-HEATING AND HAS LIKELY FAILED INTERNALLY UNDER SEALED COVERINGS
- REMOVED AND PERFORMED INTERNAL RESISTANCE TEST OF FUSE, FOUND FUSE BLOWN, OL RESULT ON DVOM
- REMOVED AND REPLACED ICCU AND HIGH VOLTAGE FUSE

The replacement part is coded as "36400-1XCA0A" which is different than the original I found online for my 2023 MY ("36400-1XCA0", missing trailing A). They also replaced the HV fuse and all work was done under warranty (thank you Genesis Canada 🙏).

Other than the hardware failure itself, the experience from Genesis Roadside through to the Genesis dealership was super nice. Took about 1 week end-to-end, failure was on a Sunday so Monday to Monday (I picked it up Tuesday morning).
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Okay so I got my vehicle back. Here's the diagnosis:

- FOUND PA19096 DC/DC CONVERTER INPUT VOLTAGE SENSOR FAILURE (I think this is a typo for P1A9096)
- FOUND ICCU SHOWING SIGNS OF OVER-HEATING AND HAS LIKELY FAILED INTERNALLY UNDER SEALED COVERINGS
- REMOVED AND PERFORMED INTERNAL RESISTANCE TEST OF FUSE, FOUND FUSE BLOWN, OL RESULT ON DVOM
- REMOVED AND REPLACED ICCU AND HIGH VOLTAGE FUSE

The replacement part is coded as "36400-1XCA0A" which is different than the original I found online for my 2023 MY ("36400-1XCA0", missing trailing A). They also replaced the HV fuse and all work was done under warranty (thank you Genesis Canada 🙏).

Other than the hardware failure itself, the experience from Genesis Roadside through to the Genesis dealership was super nice. Took about 1 week end-to-end, failure was on a Sunday so Monday to Monday (I picked it up Tuesday morning).
When my 2023 ICCU blew, they replaced it with the same model number ending in 1XCA0. Starting with the 2024 model they begin using the newer ICCU 1XCA0A. I don't beleive that I've heard of any GV60 ICCU's going bad on the models 2024 and forward?
upa
upa
When my 2023 ICCU blew, they replaced it with the same model number ending in 1XCA0. Starting with the 2024 model they begin using the newer ICCU 1XCA0A. I don't beleive that I've heard of any GV60 ICCU's going bad on the models 2024 and forward?
Sadly, they are still failing on late models.
Armeca59
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Anyone have any ideas as to why I can not get the remote start to work using my key fob? Remote start does work with the App using climate feature.

Car is locked. Standing near by-5ft. When pressing and holding the remote start button, key fob flashes once and then nothing happens.

Brand new car. 200 miles😩
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Speeder
Did you try the other Fob that came with the car?

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Armeca59
Yes. Both fob’s do not work…..
Jhon
Probably not your issue, but in case you did not know, as you can see from speeders message, you must push the lock button on the key fob first ....and then within a few seconds, push and hold the start button. You must push the lock button even if our car is already locked.
Again, I am not trying to offend you with something you probably already know, but you did not mention pushing the lock button first before pushing the start button in your message and sometimes we miss the littlest things.
I hope you get it worked out.
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Mcc
you must push the lock button on the key fob first ....and then within a few seconds, push and hold the start button. You must push the lock button even if our car is already locked.
I’m betting this is @Armeca59 ’s problem. The two step sequence is critical.
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EdP
I’m betting this is @Armeca59 ’s problem. The two step sequence is critical.
Makes sense. Reminds me of a situation some years back when a person let their grandson play with the key ring and later found their car running. Things like that introduces safety features and limited run times.
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Last reply · posted in Genesis G70 Forum - G70FORUM.COM
I just bought a 2019 genesis g70 3.3t in august and wanted to add a few things to it now that it's starting to get nice outside. Does anyone know what mods you can do without voiding your warranty? I would assume you wouldn't be able to mess with any main engine components, but would I be able to put an exhaust on without the warranty being voided?
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jfo
If you want to be safe, I'd call a dealer and speak to their service manager about Genesis/Hyundai's stated position on mod's. I don't know if it's written in any of the documentation we get. I would also ask about any specific mod's you had in mind and if the dealer has any discretion.
I come from an Audi background. Audi had clear guidance for dealers with wide ranging restrictions on mods. They were required to add a flag to the VIN if any restricted mods were found and this "TD1 flag" would stay with the car. Lot's of guy's had warranty work excluded. Some dealers however were mod friendly and would make certain exceptions.
The idea that an intake or exhaust mod might not be related to a particular engine issue would make no difference...warranty denied. Given the potential for expensive warranty work to be denied, I would not just rely on a few forum comments.
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Motogp69
I am purchasing from CarMax and I know their MaxCare warranty typically covers mods which came with the car so they would have to prove I did the mods I assume?

My 340i had a modified front end which wasn’t installed correctly and killed both headlights from moisture getting into the light casings and they covered it no questions asked.

Didn’t even charge me the deductible.
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jfo
I am purchasing from CarMax and I know their MaxCare warranty typically covers mods which came with the car so they would have to prove I did the mods I assume?

My 340i had a modified front end which wasn’t installed correctly and killed both headlights from moisture getting into the light casings and they covered it no questions asked.

Didn’t even charge me the deductible.
As with any insurance or warranty, you need to read the fine print rather than assume. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is the actual wording in your coverage.
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If you want to be safe, I'd call a dealer and speak to their service manager about Genesis/Hyundai's stated position on mod's. I don't know if it's written in any of the documentation we get. I would also ask about any specific mod's you had in mind and if the dealer has any discretion.
I come from an Audi background. Audi had clear guidance for dealers with wide ranging restrictions on mods. They were required to add a flag to the VIN if any restricted mods were found and this "TD1 flag" would stay with the car. Lot's of guy's had warranty work excluded. Some dealers however were mod friendly and would make certain exceptions.
The idea that an intake or exhaust mod might not be related to a particular engine issue would make no difference...warranty denied. Given the potential for expensive warranty work to be denied, I would not just rely on a few forum comments.
good point I'll definitely give them a call before I make any purchases.
Samuel Holton
Hi all, I'm experiencing the issue with my G70 that is systemic across their fleet models 2015-2024 (at least) of the ultrasonic weld and/or mounting screws on the headlights causing a major water leak. I'm about to take my car into the dealer and currently had made the following mods to the vehicle: Afe Twin Takeda cold air intakes, JB4, 2 step colder plugs, BMS oil catch can, TIAL BOV (Blow Off Valve), under-glow, and a Skar sound system. I am also concerned about the 'mods' being a point that the dealership attempts to dismiss the claim. I have pictures of the water leak, pictures of cracks from the mounting screws being factory over-torqued, a video of the front-end being perfectly aligned with the rest of the bottom, plenty of clearance (zero contact) between the headlight assembly and modded parts, the actual TSB (Tech Service Bulletin) covering the issue, diagnosis, and when warranty covers it. I'm prepared to argue and fight the good fight, but I'm hoping I don't have too. I have scoured online forums, like this, and noticed it's a mixed bag as far as if you get it or if you have to fight (even with modding). Does anyone have any advice they could throw my way?
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Remove the mods except the plugs and oil catch can
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EdP
Hi all, I'm experiencing the issue with my G70 that is systemic across their fleet models 2015-2024 (at least) of the ultrasonic weld and/or mounting screws on the headlights causing a major water leak. I'm about to take my car into the dealer and currently had made the following mods to the vehicle: Afe Twin Takeda cold air intakes, JB4, 2 step colder plugs, BMS oil catch can, TIAL BOV (Blow Off Valve), under-glow, and a Skar sound system. I am also concerned about the 'mods' being a point that the dealership attempts to dismiss the claim. I have pictures of the water leak, pictures of cracks from the mounting screws being factory over-torqued, a video of the front-end being perfectly aligned with the rest of the bottom, plenty of clearance (zero contact) between the headlight assembly and modded parts, the actual TSB (Tech Service Bulletin) covering the issue, diagnosis, and when warranty covers it. I'm prepared to argue and fight the good fight, but I'm hoping I don't have too. I have scoured online forums, like this, and noticed it's a mixed bag as far as if you get it or if you have to fight (even with modding). Does anyone have any advice they could throw my way?
You should be OK with this issue. Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975 protects you in many cases. If the modification caused the problem, yes, but putting in a different air intake should not affect headlight problems.
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Hi all, I have a 2019 G70 with 34000 miles on the odometer. The car has suspension creaking and the dealer is saying it needs lateral arms replaced and 2 shocks! Unbelievable! How can a car with so few miles be so deteriorated? I have a Honda Odyssey with 200K and the suspension is still OK. Anyway, anyone else have these problems and have you been able to get any sort of Genesis help to resolve the issue?
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Ordered 2 1/2 weeks ago. Got a tracking number 10 days ago. Finally arrived today. After the delays and shipping, and back-and-forth on whether it was completed or not, I finally got my product. Installed as easy as the video shows. Took me about 35 minutes in the Texas heat. Works like a charm.
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Glad to hear this... thank you for sharing!
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Will this work for 2022 g90? Same generation, just got a facelift. Key fob looks the same.
srobak
I would think it should... all the system innards are the same.
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Last reply · posted in General 2009-2014 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Discussion
Hello GenesisOwners!

I came into my Genesis last August with 100K miles on her and she's a blast. As with all my vehicles I try and get a hold of the service manual so I can work on them with a semblance of knowing what I'm doing. Combing through these forums I found some dead links for the 2009/2010 service manual. I was wondering if anyone had been lucky enough to grab a copy of it while it was available and could send me/post the manual again? I looked through the 2009 manual that OneFunGenesis posted to his dropbox but I fear that the differences between the 2009 and 2010 are too much. I'm specifically trying to do some electrical work. Much appreciated fellers

Zach
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dougmcp
Hello GenesisOwners!

I came into my Genesis last August with 100K miles on her and she's a blast. As with all my vehicles I try and get a hold of the service manual so I can work on them with a semblance of knowing what I'm doing. Combing through these forums I found some dead links for the 2009/2010 service manual. I was wondering if anyone had been lucky enough to grab a copy of it while it was available and could send me/post the manual again? I looked through the 2009 manual that OneFunGenesis posted to his dropbox but I fear that the differences between the 2009 and 2010 are too much. I'm specifically trying to do some electrical work. Much appreciated fellers

Zach

If you send me a message or email with your email address I can arrange for a 2010 4.6 service manual to magically appear.
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i have been searching for the 2009 manual forever! have you got one more in your hat? [email protected]
jep604
i have been searching for the 2009 manual forever! have you got one more in your hat? [email protected]
Go back through this forum and you will see where all of them have been shared.
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Doug- I would be most grateful if you could produce a 2012 4.6 Genesis Owner's and Service Manual.
[email protected]

Many thanks!!!
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If you send me a message or email with your email address I can arrange for a 2010 4.6 service manual to magically appear.
Hello, hoping you can hook me up with a 2012 4.6 manual. Much appreciated. [email protected]
joegr
Hello, hoping you can hook me up with a 2012 4.6 manual. Much appreciated. [email protected]
Yep, nobody actually reads this thread...

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I could use a manual for my 2010 4.6L Genesis
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· posted in Genesis GV60 EV Forum - GV60FORUM.COM
My GV60 just got updated today: Scheduled OTA Software Update to your 2023 GENESIS GV60 on 07/02/2026 at 11:23 AM PDT is complete.
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jcgraff
Last reply · posted in General 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis Sedan Discussion
Hi. I'm usually on Genesis Owners about my 2019 G90, but today I need some help troubleshooting my son's 2015 Hyundai Genesis 3.8. The local Hyundai dealer refuses to work on it despite it being a Hyundai (they don't have the Genesis dealership) and previously selling them, as they say they've had "bad luck working on them". Same for the dealer an hour South. The dealer at which I bought my G90 has the worst customer service of ANY business I've ever done business with, despite going through a new service manager every year. I cannot get a return call (of someone on the phone) while they have my car last time for 8 of the 12 weeks they had it, and in the end, they still didn't get the trunk issue I've had since purchase fixed. So, they're not an option. The next closest is Cool Springs in South Nashville, 3.5 hours away, but just drove by them today and it looks like the shop is in a complete demolition/rebuild.

My son has tried to troubleshoot this himself by purchasing a code reader and even dropped it for a few weeks at the local import car maintenance shop, and got a call that they could not reproduce the complete lack of power steering that happens unpredictably.

He is thinking of purchasing a used electric power steering rack (he says this is the first year or two the Genesis had electric steering rather than hydraulic) and just getting the local import dealer to replace it for him.

Is intermittent failure of the electric power steering a known issue with these vehicles? If so, what are the potential causes? He has looked at the service manual documents but doesn't want to tackle it himself. He thinks it may be a network/communications problem since the steering motor works fine when it is working.

The error codes he's getting haven't been helpful.

Thanks for any help/suggestions!

Regards,

Justin
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joegr
My first stab at it would be to disconnect the electrical connections related to the unit and inspect for corrosion. Clean them up with some de-ox spray and maybe put a little dielectric grease on the seals on the connectors and then re-mate them. See if that makes any difference with the issue. Are the under-covers still installed? I've heard of problems developing with the steering when the undercover is left off.
jcgraff
My first stab at it would be to disconnect the electrical connections related to the unit and inspect for corrosion. Clean them up with some de-ox spray and maybe put a little dielectric grease on the seals on the connectors and then re-mate them. See if that makes any difference with the issue. Are the under-covers still installed? I've heard of problems developing with the steering when the undercover is left off.
Just got a call and email with video showing issues. The video shows the voltage measured at the electrical connections to be as expected in the service manual. They are quoting him $8,000 to replace the "MOTOR DRIVEN POWER STEERING MODULE". The car is only worth $9000 sold to an individual in great condition, and much less if traded in. It doesn't make sense to replace the steering module at this price.

My son looked the part up online and can get one for $1000, but none of the independent shops in my area are willing to work on the car. In fact, the local Hyundai dealers in my hometown of Tupelo, MS and an hour away in Columbus, MS refused to work on the 2015 Hyundai Genesis, even though it is a Hyundai! The dealer that it is with now is two hours away.

Does anyone know of any independent shops in Memphis, TN or Birmingham, AL that would tackle replacing the power steering module?

Or, is there a part of the steering module that can be replaced or overhauled, such as a bad electric motor, without replacing the entire assembly?
jcgraff
My son has decided to purchase a used electric power steering module ($500) and attempt to install it himself. This part cannot be purchased new from Hyundai, only as a complete electric steering rack with motor and control module. The Hyundai tech told him that the voltages measured at the module were within spec, which makes failure of the control module most likely.
joegr
I wonder if any programming will be required to make the replacement module work correctly?
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