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[tompass]

Obviously will be in production, at least for Genny buyers north of the border.

http://thechronicleherald.ca/wheelsnews/1184366-preview-2015-hyundai-genesis-sedan

 

[CanukV6]

I would hope that AWD remains an option and is not standard for all Canadian Genesis models. Despite living in the snow-belt, I have very rarely felt the need of AWD/4WD and much prefer the handling of a RWD car.

 

[Mark_888]

I would hope that AWD remains an option and is not standard for all Canadian Genesis models. Despite living in the snow-belt, I have very rarely felt the need of AWD/4WD and much prefer the handling of a RWD car.

The article says standard equipment. I am not sure why you think RWD handles better than AWD. There is difference between taking a FWD car and adding AWD, and taking a RWD car and adding AWD (like the Genesis).

 

[CanukV6]

In my experience of AWD cars (Audi Quattro, Mercedes 4-matic, BMW X-Drive) the balance of the car changes with AWD vs. RWD. The added weight is one factor and the extra hardware connected to the steering wheels another. With a RWD car you can use the throttle to help rotate the car in a turn, with AWD (depending on the system) you cannot. Even if the new Genesis AWD is smart enough to remain in RWD mode unless slippage is detected, you are still paying more for the hardware in initial cost and probably in fuel costs.

I'm just saying that with the two Genesis's I have owned this far, fitted with a good set of winter tires, I have never seen the need to have AWD and I hope Hyundai Canada gives us the option rather than making it standard.

 

[Mark_888]

In my experience of AWD cars (Audi Quattro, Mercedes 4-matic, BMW X-Drive) the balance of the car changes with AWD vs. RWD. The added weight is one factor and the extra hardware connected to the steering wheels another. With a RWD car you can use the throttle to help rotate the car in a turn, with AWD (depending on the system) you cannot. Even if the new Genesis AWD is smart enough to remain in RWD mode unless slippage is detected, you are still paying more for the hardware in initial cost and probably in fuel costs.

I'm just saying that with the two Genesis's I have owned this far, fitted with a good set of winter tires, I have never seen the need to have AWD and I hope Hyundai Canada gives us the option rather than making it standard.

I can understand the issue of added weight and higher fuel costs. However, with regard to handling, any inability to steer the car with your throttle is offset by better road handling of AWD, unless you are racing or out for a joy ride.

But all of this is moot for potential Canadian customers, since AWD will be standard equipment.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

However, with regard to handling, any inability to steer the car with your throttle is offset by better road handling of AWD, unless you are racing or out for a joy ride.

I think that is true for wet or slippery conditions. But I don't think it is true for dry conditions.

 

[Mark_888]

I think that is true for wet or slippery conditions. But I don't think it is true for dry conditions.

I would respectfully disagree. Actually, when things get really slippery (such as ice) there is nothing that can help you.

 

[427435]

I would respectfully disagree. Actually, when things get really slippery (such as ice) there is nothing that can help you.

Which is when true winter tires are especially better. That is, a RWD with winter tires will stop and handle better on ice than an AWD car with all-season tires.

Nor will an AWD with snow tires stop any quicker than a RWD with snow tires.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

I would respectfully disagree. Actually, when things get really slippery (such as ice) there is nothing that can help you.

I was not talking about ice. Wet, most reviewers I have read favor AWS for handling. Dry, most reviewers favor RWD.

 

[dfd5280]

I would hope that AWD remains an option and is not standard for all Canadian Genesis models. Despite living in the snow-belt, I have very rarely felt the need of AWD/4WD and much prefer the handling of a RWD car.

I am with you 100%. I live in Denver and have owned nothing but RWD cars the 10 winters I have been here.

The problem even if it is an option like on MB and BMW is that the dealers order up all the cars here with AWD and if you want RWD its special order time.

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[dfd5280]

Which is when true winter tires are especially better. That is, a RWD with winter tires will stop and handle better on ice than an AWD car with all-season tires.

Nor will an AWD with snow tires stop any quicker than a RWD with snow tires.

Exactly, winter tires are awesome. Overall handling in winter conditions with a RWD is much better than all seasons and AWD. This is well discussed matter on the German car enthusiasts sites. Granted some places really demand it but here in Denver I have made it to work on snowy days only for us to have "snow day" and those who made it get to go home. Most dont make it, I do. Like theysay all season tires are a compromise and dont do any season really well.

 

[CanukV6]

In Dry conditions RWD is definitely superior for traction and handling, unless you have huge HP where AWD is needed to use all the power.

 

[shagnat]

In Dry conditions RWD is definitely superior for traction and handling, unless you have huge HP where AWD is needed to use all the power.

Regardless of mechanics and hardware involved...... if you prefer RWD over AWD, then that's certainly a prerogative you have.

Thank goodness I don't live in a snow belt area, but, I certainly like RWD cars as that's what I grew up with. Now, having to get used to RWD again after having FWD drive cars for ~20 years, well, it's a bit of a challenge, but, a good one.