2009 Genesis, dead on the road!!!

[Mgrig]

I have been thoroughly impressed with my 2009 Genesis for the past 31K miles. But today it really disappointed me, it actually died on the road today and I had to call for roadside assistance.

I was driving for about 20 minutes when I had to stop for a construction site and waited to be waved through. When it was my turn to pass, the car's check engine light came on, shortly followed by the ESC light and the car would not move, it was still runnnig, but would not move. I shut car down and restarted it, it started right up, but had no power.
I had to limp the car to the side of the road into a parking lot, it would only go about 10 mph, no more power.

After calling roadside assistance, I had to wait almost 2 hours for the car to be picked up, it is at the dealer awaitng its turn to be looked at. I hope they can fix it in a timely manner.

I could not imagine if this happend on the highway going 65 to 70 mph, it could have been real bad.

 

[tjc78]

Its a slightly different problem, but I just went through a few days of hell with my Genesis stalling on the highway, dying in parking lots etc. Dealer couldn't duplicate the problem, but Hyundai corporate said it was common and to clean and retorque all grounding points throughout the vehicle.

 

[Mgrig]

OK.........Hyundai service at my dealer Lester Glenn is super.
They found the issue that stopped the car from moving, it was a bad Throttle Position Sensor. It was replaced and the car runs like it did prior, no more problems. Great service.

 

[PSL]

I hope jet engineers don't use throttle position sensors in the jets we fly in...

 

[scotttisha]

I worry about this thing happening to me. Not so much because I bought a Hyundai, but just in general.
I can honestly say though, I have a 2005 Mercedes C230 Kompressor with a 6spd man, I bought new at the end of 2004. It has 203,000 miles on it and it never ever quit running or didn't start. It has never been towed and obviously never left me stranded.

Cars that have left me stranded at some point.

Infinity Q45 (serpentine belt failed prematurely)
2002 VW GTI 337 (water pump failed at 55k miles)...I was actually just a few minutes from my house and was able to limp home before the temps got to high)
1986 Pontiac Sunbird GT (my first car out of high school...this thing was the biggest piece or crap I ever owned and I could never trade out of it until it was paid off)
1986 VW Jetta GLI (failed fuel injection)

1992 Mazda Protege (coolant hose burst right after finishing an 1.5 endurance race at Daytona International Speedway...I was driving the car back to the race shop and the hose burst...Ironically, the car never quit during any of the races it was in. Several years of racing at Sebring and Daytona)

I've had a lot of cars over the years and my Mercedes has been the most reliable. Not my favorite though. That award goes to my old 2002 VW 337. That car dyno'd at 320hp and 340 ft/lbs and only weighed 2850lbs. It was quite quick!


Scott

 

[tjc78]

OK.........Hyundai service at my dealer Lester Glenn is super.
They found the issue that stopped the car from moving, it was a bad Throttle Position Sensor. It was replaced and the car runs like it did prior, no more problems. Great service.

On another forum I visit, an owner had the same exact problem.

 

[PSL]

I guess if a throttle position sensor failed in a car, it would be better to slow to a stop rather than take off like some of the Toyota problems I’ve read about. This drive by wire stuff needs some sort of back up system IMO.

 

[CanukV6]

I hope jet engineers don't use throttle position sensors in the jets we fly in...

Only in Russia apparently
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/miracle-crash-landing-after-power-fails/story-e6frfq80-1225916200435

 

[CapoCriminali]

I guess if a throttle position sensor failed in a car, it would be better to slow to a stop rather than take off like some of the Toyota problems I’ve read about. This drive by wire stuff needs some sort of back up system IMO.

Only in Russia apparently
http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/miracle-crash-landing-after-power-fails/story-e6frfq80-1225916200435

So actually most new planes do use a fly-by-wire system. Here's a wiki article about it, but tl;dr: I'd imagine all current-gen (F14+) fighters and most new airliners (787, etc) do use fly-by-wire.

I don't think that having one fail is good in any way, but it's not because the technology is crap.

 

[davparlr]

I hope jet engineers don't use throttle position sensors in the jets we fly in...

Most modern aircraft use fly-by-wire systems including throttles and flying is actually done by computers just like your video games. The pilot only input controls to the computer. The difference is that flight safety systems go through rigorous testing and validation, and, in addition, the systems are at least tri-redundant and many are quad-redundant. In my opinion, auto systems that are safety issues, throttle, steering, brakes, etc., should be at least dual redundant or have a fail safe backup that provides some level of motivational capability.

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[Mgrig]

Give me a carburator and forget these new fangle sensors. My 67 GTO and 66 Corvette don't have these technological advancements or the issues that go along with them.

 

[Cut-Throat]

Give me a carburator and forget these new fangle sensors. My 67 GTO and 66 Corvette don't have these technological advancements or the issues that go along with them.

Seriously?

 

[PSL]

Seriously?

Some of the 66 Corvettes would run neck and neck with the new 4.6L Genesis, and I would certainly like to own a 67 GTO and/ or a 66 Corvette. Don't get me wrong - I love my Genesis, but Mgrig has a couple of real classics with some serious horsepower even with carburetors instead of FI, and throttle cables instead of throttle position sensors.

 

[Cut-Throat]

Some of the 66 Corvettes would run neck and neck with the new 4.6L Genesis, and I would certainly like to own a 67 GTO and/ or a 66 Corvette. Don't get me wrong - I love my Genesis, but Mgrig has a couple of real classics with some serious horsepower even with carburetors instead of FI, and throttle cables instead of throttle position sensors.

No doubt they were fast cars. I owned muscle cars in the 60's also. But Carburetors were a pain in the ass. We had to do something to our cars every 2 weeks just to keep them running.

 

[dg_moore]

No doubt they were fast cars. I owned muscle cars in the 60's also. But Carburetors were a pain in the ass. We had to do something to our cars every 2 weeks just to keep them running.

I drove MG's in those days. You had to fiddle with the SU carbs every 2 days, if not hours, to keep them running.

 

[PSL]

No doubt they were fast cars. I owned muscle cars in the 60's also. But Carburetors were a pain in the ass. We had to do something to our cars every 2 weeks just to keep them running.

I too remember the days of working on my cars - usually in the driveway or under a shade tree. good times...

 

[Mgrig]

The abilty to work on your own car is great. I can tune both the Corvette and the GTO and won't have to spend big buck for a scheduled service. In the 4 1/2 years I have owned the cars, no issue with the carbs or tuning them. The comfort, ride and mileage is a big difference, I get about 28 mpg in the Genesis and 12-14 in the "old" cars.
Both sets of cars turn heads.

 

[VIPISM]

a car should not be having tps sensor problems (throttle positioning sensor) at 30k miles. this is completely unacceptable.

I'm beginning to think the genesis is just as bad as benz and bmw.