2011 Genesis 4.6 ENGINE SEIZED @ 27,000 miles

[Stunamar]

So last week I was backing out of the driveway the car shuttered and stalled. Never happened before thought it was odd, but I hit the button to restart the motor and nothing. One simple click and that's it. I call triples A for a jump thought maybe by some chance the battery was dead. No luck didnt start.
I had the car towed to my local dealer in NJ that Sunday evening. Monday afternoon i got the call that the engine seized completely. No check engine lights, no low oil pressure, no oil light, nothing.
The dealer said they were going to put a new motor in the car and i should have it back by the end of the week, AND they did! Going to pick it up today.

The most flabergasting part of this whole scenario is the cost of the new motor....$15,000. Sounds kinda odd to me but for 15k I could have a blower sticking out of the hood making a 1,000 hp.


Props to the dealer though for taking care of this!

 

[AgentSmith007]

Did you have to pay or was it covered by the warranty?

 

[Potty_Pants]

New v6 n54 bmw motor is around 30k.


So 15k im not suprised

 

[Stunamar]

Cost me nothing!

 

[veed]

did they provide root cause?

 

[OneFunGenesis]

^ This

 

[GenesisCaptain]

My previous car blew its engine, and that is what got me into the Genesis. The new engine would have been $22K ($17K for the short block plus labor).

New v6 n54 bmw motor is around 30k.

The N54 short block MSRP is only $12,366, though most dealers would sell it for around $10K. $15K for the Genesis V8 is a little higher than I would expect, unless that includes a crapload of labor.

 

[Mark_888]

$15K for the Genesis V8 is a little higher than I would expect, unless that includes a crapload of labor.

At www.newhyundaiparts.com it is $16,839.11 plus shipping, plus installation.

 

[Southern Boy]

So last week I was backing out of the driveway the car shuttered and stalled. Never happened before thought it was odd, but I hit the button to restart the motor and nothing. One simple click and that's it. I call triples A for a jump thought maybe by some chance the battery was dead. No luck didnt start.
I had the car towed to my local dealer in NJ that Sunday evening. Monday afternoon i got the call that the engine seized completely. No check engine lights, no low oil pressure, no oil light, nothing.
The dealer said they were going to put a new motor in the car and i should have it back by the end of the week, AND they did! Going to pick it up today.

The most flabergasting part of this whole scenario is the cost of the new motor....$15,000. Sounds kinda odd to me but for 15k I could have a blower sticking out of the hood making a 1,000 hp.


Props to the dealer though for taking care of this!

Be glad you bought a Hyundai.

Had an engine seize at 25K on a 1972 Chevy Vega. Dealer and GM laughed when I told them the aluminum block was an engineering problem and they should replace the engine. (Later they admitted the design was flawed and sleeved the block, but too bad for me since I bought the car before the engineering revision)

Warrantee was 12K or 1 year back then. I sold car as is that I paid cash for and took out a loan to buy a Toyota.

Last GM car I ever bought. To this day most cars have only a 3 year / 36K warrantee. If auto manufactures only believe their product will only last for 3 / 36 then why should I have any faith in their product?

 

[yellow3.8track]

The head gaskets were the issue on the 2.3's in the early Vega.

Steel gasket, rust, leak, rust particles and anti-freeze do terrible things to aluminum cylinder walls. The factory engines had aluminum cylinder walls right up to the time they stopped making the 2.3 and switched over to the 2.5's.

I bought mine in 76, new. I ran the snot out of that thing for years. It was running like a top at 125,000 miles on the engine when I parked it due to the effects of all the salt they put on the roads in WV in the winter time.

Maybe I was just lucky but oil/oil filter changes every 3,000 miles might have had something to do with it, too.

My Coupe sure does run better than that old Astre (Pontiac's version of the Vega) but so far, between being married and being in my mid 50's, I've never had the fun in the coupe I had in the Astre.

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[Mark_888]

To this day most cars have only a 3 year / 36K warrantee. If auto manufactures only believe their product will only last for 3 / 36 then why should I have any faith in their product?

I believe that most automakers have now switched to a 5 year / 60,000 miles drivetrain warranty, which is fully transferable (Hyundai 10 year / 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty is not transferable to subsequent owners, unless the car is sold as CPO by a dealer).

I am not sure that a warranty is always a true indication of quality. Hyundai started the 10 year / 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty back when their quality was sub-standard as a way to offset those concerns. Warranty is more of a marketing device and is very dependent on the competition's warranty offering, and warranties also differ by country for the exact same vehicle.

 

[brfatal]

Last GM car I ever bought. To this day most cars have only a 3 year / 36K warrantee. If auto manufactures only believe their product will only last for 3 / 36 then why should I have any faith in their product?

What? Car companies don't make that much selling a car. Where they get money is off of the repairs (parts) and licensing.

 

[veed]

repeat Q: did they root cause this? why did it seize?

(also owns 2011 4.6 w/~19k miles, and wants to keep an eye peeled ...)

 

[Jbo]

Sounds like original poster has much bad luck?!

 

[Aquineas]

Ouch, this is a bit scary. Any weirdness or roughness or anything prior to it seizing?

 

[Kaiserseal]

At least Hyundai honored thier warranty. It took public embarassment, a law suit, and six months to get Lexus to authorize a new engine. $27K for a new motor which was first ruled not covered under the factory bumper to bumper warranty.

 

[Southern Boy]

What? Car companies don't make that much selling a car. Where they get money is off of the repairs (parts) and licensing.

You need to do a reality check if you believe dealerships don’t make a ton of money selling cars.

Next time you go to a dealership look around at the buildings, staff, furnishings, all the Financed vehicles on the lot, and take a drive by at night when the lot is lit up with those Hugh mercury vapor lights.

How tell me they make most of their money servicing vehicles. They want you to believe that they are giving the vehicles away hoping you will return to get an oil change when they run a special.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

 

[Aquineas]

At least Hyundai honored thier warranty. It took public embarassment, a law suit, and six months to get Lexus to authorize a new engine. $27K for a new motor which was first ruled not covered under the factory bumper to bumper warranty.

Yeah I totally don't get wth Lexus was thinking. Their decision to hassle you ended up costing them a lot more in perception than the measly couple grand that engine costs to manufacture.

 

[brfatal]

You need to do a reality check if you believe dealerships don’t make a ton of money selling cars.

Next time you go to a dealership look around at the buildings, staff, furnishings, all the Financed vehicles on the lot, and take a drive by at night when the lot is lit up with those Hugh mercury vapor lights.

How tell me they make most of their money servicing vehicles. They want you to believe that they are giving the vehicles away hoping you will return to get an oil change when they run a special.

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

Dealerships aren't the ones that control warranty, that's the manufacturer, as they are the ones who pay the dealerships to do the warranty work and reimburse the parts. The manufacturers themselves don't actually make that much money selling cars because of the costs involved in R&D, manufacturing, and transportation. The better job a company does of making a car, they more they sell. The more they sell, the more there are cars on the roads that will eventually need to be serviced. And so on. They need to make them reliable enough to appeal to the masses, but not so reliable that it drives costs through the roof and that they don't sell parts (which is neigh impossible to do anyways considering the abuse and wear/tear cars will see on the roads).

FYI, I was a Subaru service adviser.

*sips Kool-Aid*

 

[landtuna]

The manufacturers themselves don't actually make that much money selling cars because of the costs involved in R&D, manufacturing, and transportation.

I thought the topic was dealers, not manufacturers but.....both make money selling new cars. Obviously the more expensive the vehicle the greater profit margin for the manufacturer. Loaded SUV's and luxury vehicles can generate upwards of $20K per vehicle.

Dealers, OTOH, make their money from many sources. The vehicle itself of course where profits range from about $500 upward depending upon the sales price. But then they make money from "kickbacks" from financing organizations, add-ons like extended warranties and "paint protectors", and holdbacks from the manufacturer. There are too many variables to make a solid estimate but it ranges from about $1,000 to many thousands depending on the vehicle and sales price. Already noted is the dealership service center which is a major source of income. Note the difference between a dealer's hourly rate and the average independent shop - it can be as much as $20/hour.

Further interesting is that most new car dealerships make more profit from the sale of used cars than new so trade-ins and auctions also play a significant role.