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2012 Genesis test drive impression 3.8 vs R-spec

Junkie49

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I went yesterday to test drive two Genesis sedan V6 3.8 prem/tech and R-spec.

First of all between saddle and black interior that I was so worked up with...

The V6 had saddle interior and moment I saw it, it was too dark.
Don't get fooled by the pictures from dealership. The pics are over exposed to make you seem bit bright brown but when I saw it in person, it was different than I have expected and quickly shunned away from that interior color.

I now lean heavily on black interior. The black interior really makes you feel the interior spacious and luxurious (well everyone has their own opinions about luxury). Overall black interior feels sporty, cashmere maybe for a bit older people (no offense) and saddle maybe someone who might like being classy.

When my mind was made up (Black on Black), I did the test drive 3.8 going first.

Genesis 3.8
My first impression was that I think almost everyone can go with 3.8 rather than other trims. Acceleration was quite fast. Steering was nimble for Genesis's size and it absorbed road bumps like any other luxury car. The performance of the engine was great so that I would not have known I am driving a V6 without the engine noise. Interior was quiet except for minor engine noise to let you know that the engine is running fine. Unlike what people said about the engine noise. I haven't heard the knocking due to GDI engine. In short, I was satisfied with the car.

Genesis R-spec
Now this was a different beast. Now I know why there were mixed impression with this car. The power you can feel is substantial but except for the engine noise of the typical V8, it feels too similar to V6. The acceleration was definitely quicker but not fast enough (maybe my standard was high?). The ride was harsher like the review but they might have over emphasized it a bit. For example I have went through same route on both cars and I was able to feel some road bumps on the R-spec that previously did not on V6 but there was no time where I became uneasy due to its bumpiness (I drive Cadillac Escalade and Ford Transitconnect, maybe that hardened my butt) You really have to try to feel the bumps to know it. The car did better on tight turns compared to V6 but it wasn’t significant (may be due to weight). The crazy thing is, during the test drive I went over 65mph on the freeway, I am not sure whether it was the road or the car but the steering wheel was trembling like crazy! (This didn't happen on the V6) The salesman noted on that as wheel misalignment and that will be fixed if I do buy this car. I really didn't expect that to happen on the new car's test drive.

Now given that you read everything, you guys may guess I went for V6.
No.
Even though the R-spec had those problems, the car felt sportier. Also things I have listed on R-spec are not that problematic at all. Instead I think it is a tradeoff for getting more power. And lastly the price difference factor. “If I am willing to pay for V6, why not add $3000 to get the best of the trim?”

If you value your money and don’t care about power or losing one option (auto dimming side mirror, rest is visual/minor) V6 is the way to go.
If you don’t mind putting $3000 for power, V8 5.0 Growl, little stiff suspension and zippier car. R-spec it is.
I haven’t had time to try 4.6. But it may as well be similar to 3.8 with smoother power, which might make it a sweet spot considering a price difference of $1000.

Thank you for reading my craptastic unprofessional test drive impression


P.S. My deal went sour when they did not honor the circle pricing and lowballing my trade-in values. After all that it was getting dark and bored to see the salesperson go back and forth for small price adjustment I wasn't fond of. That was it for the night.

I have a question by the way. The reason the deal went sour the first place was that they were adamant that circle pricing and $1500 rebate can't be done together and has to be either this or that kind of thing. I always thought you can get the circle pricing AND rebate. Are they just trying me out to forfeit the rebate?
 
They do not have to honor "circle" pricing but do have to on the zag.com pricing contractually...which is only a couple hundred more. Go get em! The 1500.00 customer incentive can & should be a given if your trade qualifies. Good luck.
 
Nice review. If you like speed than the 5.0 is for you. If you grow weary of the ride quality you can always swap out the rims and tires for 18" and some decent all seasons, that should round off the rough edges.
 
They do indeed sound like crooks. For Circle pricing they do need to honor the $1,500. Last I checked a few weeks ago, there was an additional $250 rebate for Circle. Makes it a good $450 or so better than zag on the combination I bought. Glad you walked!!!

PS-We have the Saddle with the White Pearl and REALLY love it.
 
Nice review! I didn't even test drive the R-spec because I knew I would want the extra 100 hp and didn't want to feel disappointed at "only" having 333 hp!

Not sure why people keep knocking the suspension - my 2012 rides sooooo much better than my previous 2008 Infiniti G35X. The Infinti was much stiffer and flintier on our rippled pavement in Wisconsin. My wife has a 2007 VW Passat 3.6 wagon and that thing is worse at jostling you over the bumpy stuff. I also have a friend with a 2006 BMW M3 and anyone who thinks BMW's some how magically offer a 1.0G turn and plush handling over bumpy pavement do not know what they are talking about. That M3 is a bucking bronco on Wisconsin roads!

Definitely find another dealer - those guys sound like incompetent crooks. Good luck in your search.
 
Not sure why people keep knocking the suspension - my 2012 rides sooooo much better than my previous 2008 Infiniti G35X.
Probably becasue many people have a 2009-2011 Genesis, which is much less compliant on bad roads than the 2012 (especially the 2009 model). Hyundai has made several changes to the supension tuning to address these issues, and most people agree with Hyundai's claim that the 2012 is still firm, but much improved over 2011.

The 2012 R-Spec is a different matter since it very firm by design (and those who don't like it have a choice of getting the 3.8 or 4.6 instead).
 
I am not sure whether Circle pricing acceptance is a mandatory or optional requirement. I know that it surely is optional without the personal pin number that is linked to your Hyundai Think Tank membership and given to members on request. The dealer must verify this in order to get his perks from Hyundai for the sale.
 
Interesting that those who have previously owned traditional sports car are much less likely to report disenchantment with the Genesis suspension. I think that many of the nay sayers are people, like myself, who came from driving cars aimed specifically for comfort. I myself drove an Avalon for a decade prior to my first Genesis. Having said that I think there was a legitimate case against the Genesis. Not for the firmness but its harsh reactions to road interruptions such as pot holes, expansion joints and the like.
 
imo, 4.6, 3.8, or R-spec; they still have a lot of work to do on the body roll when you toss the car around.
 
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I honestly think the engineers don't take these cars off the track and down their local roads. If they did they would be changing the suspension alot faster than they have been.
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They should take the circle pricing and any rebates available. Glad you walked too. Sounds like they are waiting for a sucker. I used circle pricing and a competitive rebate on my '12 4.6 for a great deal.
 
Thanks for the post guys.
I am now thinking about buying the car out of state.
Fitzmall isn't that far from where I live (~250mi one way so that is like 4 hr drive) and they take rock bottom prices. I could go there with my family for a slight long 1 day road trip :)
This time, I will contact them via email using truecar.com or zag.com (Heard they cannot refuse that offer). I first thought about trade in but I don't have any car that dealer gives top dollar on. (well unless they give me top dollar on either my escalade or benz c300)

Tell me crazy but I really can't forget the experience I had on the test drive.
 
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