2014 Acura RLX

[Mark_888]

With that being said, I'm in the target demographic for the RLX, as are many people who read the WSJ. The fact that I wouldn't even walk into an Acura dealership to check out the RLX should be a strong message to Honda. You can argue about the test drive all you want, but let's revisit this discussion in a year and compare the sales numbers.

My main point was that the WSJ did not like the Genesis either when they reviewed it in 2009.

I am not 100% sure you are a likely customer of the RLX, since you purchased the Genesis V8. Acura is clearly not going after the V8 market. Although a lot of people are predisposed to hate FWD, I think that if people actually test drove a RLX then they might change their mind a little bit. But hard to compare against the Genesis, since it is priced $15K below all the competition, not just RLX.

However, the competition (which is priced is $15K higher) has some advantages such as:

1. Competitors have more prestige than a Hyundai and customers don't have to rebadge their cars
2. Brake pedal does not go to floor and brakes fail, with manufacturer (Hyundai) telling people they can't reproduce the problem so they won't fix it.
3. Engines don't use excessive oil like an alarming number of Genesis 5.0 engines do.

 

[Aquineas]

My main point was that the WSJ did not like the Genesis either when they reviewed it in 2009.

I am not 100% sure you are a likely customer of the RLX, since you purchased the Genesis V8. Acura is clearly not going after the V8 market. Although a lot of people are predisposed to hate FWD, I think that if people actually test drove a RLX then they might change their mind a little bit. But hard to compare against the Genesis, since it is priced $15K below all the competition, not just RLX.

However, the competition (which is priced is $15K higher) has some advantages such as:

1. Competitors have more prestige than a Hyundai and customers don't have to rebadge their cars
2. Brake pedal does not go to floor and brakes fail, with manufacturer (Hyundai) telling people they can't reproduce the problem so they won't fix it.
3. Engines don't use excessive oil like an alarming number of Genesis 5.0 engines do.

I've read your V8 hatred before. Obviously you voted with your wallet, and I voted with mine. As for inherent problems, my TL almost caught on fire because the power steering hose leaked all over the exhaust manifold (Honda has a recall out about it, which came out after my car was smoking like an old truck on the way to the airport). All manufacturers have their share of problems (though I'm not defending Hyundai; the brake issue is abominable and they should definitely fix that).

FWIW, I'm not anti-v6, I'm just anti-V6 power. I would settle for a forced-induction or hybrid augmented V6 if it were done properly. Lo and behold Acura will be introducing a hybrid-augmented V6 later on this year that will make 370HP, but if the car already costs 60k for all the options you'd want on it (almost all of which are available on the Ford Fusion hybrid I have on order, btw), then it's going to be 65K (at least) with the hybrid option. That's almost 70K out the door. Not just no, Hell-No, and as I mentioned before, I won't be the only one who feels that way.

 

[Mark_888]

I've read your V8 hatred before.

I don't hate the V8, I am just saying that if you really want that much power (which is your decision) then the Acura RLX is clearly not an option because it is only available with a V6. Acura is clearly not targeting the V8 market.

 

[Beau2424]

Question for mark 888... Why does it seem that you always have snide remarks or just always begative or just not very kind? Ive just noticed in the couple of weeks that i have been on here that you seem to like to always post negatives remarks/comments.. Not sure why.

Saying this, to each their own and thats rhe beauty of living in america and having forums such as these...

God bless you

Mark D

 

[jnc2000]

I don't hate the V8, I am just saying that if you really want that much power (which is your decision) then the Acura RLX is clearly not an option because it is only available with a V6. Acura is clearly not targeting the V8 market.

Acura is clearly following the Buick / Lincoln model... one need not complicate it much more than that. The idea that Acura was "positioned" and thought they could compete with Tier 1 automakers is as much of a laugh today, as when they said it 5 years ago.

 

[Mark_888]

Question for mark 888... Why does it seem that you always have snide remarks or just always begative or just not very kind? Ive just noticed in the couple of weeks that i have been on here that you seem to like to always post negatives remarks/comments.. Not sure why.

Saying this, to each their own and thats rhe beauty of living in america and having forums such as these...

God bless you

Mark D

Why don't you state exactly what exact remarks (please quote them exactly) you are referring to and I will answer your question the best I can.

I notice that a lot of people have made very negative comments about the Acura RLX, even those who have never seen one in person, much less driven one, but I guess you are ignoring those negative comments.

 

[Aquineas]

Mark, it's a matter of personal preference. I don't think the RLX is attractive, I don't like the engine, and I don't like the FWD layout in a car of this caliber. I don't like the price they're charging nor the features you get with that price. I don't need to drive one to know that. I don't need to be altruistic nor do I need to be objective in evaluating a car that I spend my own money on. And you have on many occasions never stopped short of pointing out the "V8 problems" nor re-justifying your decision to buy the V6 (like your ridiculous assertion that buying fuel-thirsty vehicles was responsible for the 'greatest transfer of wealth in history'). Get over it; not everyone wants the V6, and not everyone agrees with you.

 

[Mark_888]

Mark, it's a matter of personal preference. I don't think the RLX is attractive, I don't like the engine, and I don't like the FWD layout in a car of this caliber. I don't like the price they're charging nor the features you get with that price. I don't need to drive one to know that. I don't need to be altruistic nor do I need to be objective in evaluating a car that I spend my own money on. And you have on many occasions never stopped short of pointing out the "V8 problems" nor re-justifying your decision to buy the V6 (like your ridiculous assertion that buying fuel-thirsty vehicles was responsible for the 'greatest transfer of wealth in history'). Get over it; not everyone wants the V6, and not everyone agrees with you.

It's completely your decision if you want a V8. I am just saying that Acura is willing to forgo those potential customers on its RLX and only offer a V6. So that makes me think you are not a potential customer of an RLX on that basis alone (as you said, you don't like the engine).

As far as me criticizing the V8 problems, those "problems" had nothing to do with why I purchased the V6, which was simply because the V6 was plenty of power for me. The fact that those problems have occurred (only one problem for the 4.6 BTW) obviously did not influence my decision since I only found out about them later, and one of them is the 5.0, which was not available in 2009.

Since I didn't start any of the threads about the V8 problems, I don't know why people get so upset when I mention them to those who are not aware about them. My suggestion is that if people are interested in any potential V8 issues, that they read the threads/posts by others who describe their experience and decide for themselves.