2022 Build WITHOUT Advanced Technology Chip

[csu87]

Ah, but the good thing with Ford is that they are saying when the chip shortage gets back to normal ( the NEW WORD of the year ), they will make the adjustments needed for the credit given on the window sticker.

not necessarily.

several things they are taking off are not things that can be added back on once a chip is available. but dont worry, they will take ~$300 off the sticker for you

Ford is telling people they can either have the truck built as is with the features removed or wait for the 2023 model if those features are deal breakers.

 

[Chad86tsi]

youre gonna take more of a hit on the depreciation from a full MSRP or MSRP + sales price than a few missing features.

Its a shitty time to be buying a new car right now. All the manufacturers are cutting features and barely giving any sort of credit. I have my fingers crossed my F150 gets built before all the cuts ford is making to features.

I think we all know that, you lose money on every sale after you use any vehicle. Question is do those $200 credits cover the missing option when you sell? I wouldn't mind not having those features, honestly I'd likely never use it, but it still going to have some value on resale. Giving credit is intended to offset the lost value, but I wonder if it offsets enough.

 

[edpanz]

I think we all know that, you lose money on every sale after you use any vehicle. Question is do those $200 credits cover the missing option when you sell? I wouldn't mind not having those features, honestly I'd likely never use it, but it still going to have some value on resale. Giving credit is intended to offset the lost value, but I wonder if it offsets enough.

I believe you hit the nail on the head. I’m buying a vehicle now, the $200 credit is of no concern as it is so small vs total price of vehicle. The big concern is, am I going to miss what that credit is for, not what that credit does for resale. Most used vehicle values are based on model, miles, condition, year, and “BASIC” options. I believe someone buying this car 3 or 4 years down the road won’t know the real difference of what is missing from the HDA, but buying it more for condition, year, and model. That being said, it’s up to the original buyer IF he feels that the 1 will satisfy his or her needs. After a long deliberation I believe one won’t miss the difference between the 1 or 2 HDA and more so if this is their first HDA they have experienced. Jmo

 

[csu87]

I think we all know that, you lose money on every sale after you use any vehicle. Question is do those $200 credits cover the missing option when you sell? I wouldn't mind not having those features, honestly I'd likely never use it, but it still going to have some value on resale. Giving credit is intended to offset the lost value, but I wonder if it offsets enough.

i dont think youll see any kind of real difference in price when you go to sell down the road.

most sites like KBB and the like dont have every feature listed when giving you a value range, and most people buying a car used those sites to gauge what they should be paying for a used car.

Just as an example, Im going to be selling my truck once my ford is built and when i go in to KBB, the difference between features my truck doesnt have, like keyless entry, changes the value a total of ~$5 when they are added in.

The credit they give is just their way of going "we are screwing you over cause of material shortages, but we are taking you out to dinner 1st"

 

[Chad86tsi]

i dont think youll see any kind of real difference in price when you go to sell down the road.

most sites like KBB and the like dont have every feature listed when giving you a value range, and most people buying a car used those sites to gauge what they should be paying for a used car.

Just as an example, Im going to be selling my truck once my ford is built and when i go in to KBB, the difference between features my truck doesnt have, like keyless entry, changes the value a total of ~$5 when they are added in.

The credit they give is just their way of going "we are screwing you over cause of material shortages, but we are taking you out to dinner 1st"

I know I wouldn't consider it an added value to a used car in the future with this feature, but some will. How many and how much?

I used to live at the Oregon coast my whole life, I remember when many cars didn't have A/C. It was an expensive option, you paid more for it on the used market. I didn't care if I car had A/C, you only needed it 4 or 5 days a year anyway. I now live inland and can't imagine living without it. If Freon was in short supply and cars no longer came with A/C, but offered a discount of $500, some may say "great, that's $500 in my pocket", If I still lived on the coast, I'd be in that group. Problem is, will others not want your used car when the time comes to unload because it is missing A/C? Will it reduce the value of your car more than $500 in the future? These days, people value options differently like self-driving far more than some of us do. I don't care for it, but what about the customers of used cars in 2026?.

I just got a new-to-me 2019 BMW 7 series with all kinds of options I don't use. While I may not use some of these features (ever), they will be expected features in the future when I liquidate this purchase. I had to pay for them, but obviously it was less than full retail. I'll get my money back on most of them. Striped down cars simply sell for less. Some of these options return zero value. Others are must-haves.

Some Genesis options return no value. I expect these advanced features will carry more value as people become accustomed to the tech and expect it and seek it out. That is why I am concerned about the $200 gesture not being in line with reality with future resale value. Will 2026 customers say they don't care about higher levels of self driving when some many cars then will have it?