2nd time around..

[Duck2010]

I have a 2012 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 with a build date of mid year of 2012 I promise I am not making this story up and the information is true.. after dealing with Hyundai motor America for over 8 months of dealing with my 2010 Hyundai genesis 4.6 with tire wear, pulling to the right of the roadway. I was given a replacement car. 8 months later and 9,000 miles I took my car to the service dept for the 7,500 service back in june, at that time the car only had around 7,000 miles. when I got home I was reading the service work and read where they re torque suspension component and also a full alignment with rotation of tires. for about the last 10 days I have notice that the has a pulling on the road.. this car has never had this problem before. I got the car with only 300 miles so I know that the car drove str and with no pulling. I have check the tire pressure and only 1 tire on the back was off.. so i thought i would have my friend to drive the car to make sure im not the only person to notice this problem and they did agree with me that the car does have a pull.. this time im not asking for another car. i really would like to have this problem fixed.. this car has been great i only had one problem and that was with a low power steering fluid..


now with that said could my problem come from the re torque or the alignment?

 

[Mark_888]

The majority of Genesis sedans have had some pulling problem, with various degrees of severity. It was set up that way to have more sensitive steering repsonse for North American tastes without need to completely redesign the suspension to be like a BMW (which was not an option, since they could only "tweak" the KDM version).

I would take it to a suspension shop for an alignment where they are will align it based on tracking straight on a test drive, as opposed to alligning it according to the published specs. When I did that, my pulling problems were reduced to neglible amounts. However, unless you do that with brand new tires, results may be less than optimal unless you are certain that the tires have worn absolutely evenly. For a car like the Genesis that is very sensitive to uneven tire wear, as soon as you rotate the tires, all bets are off. If it bothers you that much, next time get a floater, or a BMW.

 

[PMCErnie]

The majority of Genesis cars have a pulling problem? That's news to me. My car goes where I point it.

 

[Jbo]

My 2012 RSpec did NOT pull with the Bridgestone PO4s or the replacement Conti ProContacts as long as I ensure tire pressures side to side are equal

 

[Mark_888]

The majority of Genesis cars have a pulling problem? That's news to me. My car goes where I point it.

Where does it go when you let go of the steering wheel? There are lots of threads/posts on this subject. I think they made improvements in 2012 but after one rotates their tires, it would not be surprising to see some pull. Also, he had wheels "alligned," and that could have done it.

 

[Fast55]

Arrow straight and zero pull in either direction so far. The stock Michelin Energy Savers do tramline noticeably though.

 

[Billfz1]

Something to check if you do see some kind of pulling is to check the caster. It is one of the most active parts of the centering effect also affected by toe in. most of the time the caster is slightly positive to get the car to "self center" a bit. If set differently on both sides you will pull to one side. This is in any car or truck.
Bill

 

[homeofstone]

I note that the tires were rotated. Rotate the tires from front to rear again, then drive and check if the pull has changed. If so then you have tire with radial pull.

This may help http://www.aa1car.com/library/tires2.htm

 

[GenesisCaptain]

The majority of Genesis sedans have had some pulling problem, with various degrees of severity.

I think it is a pretty severe generalization to say that most Genesis sedans have had a pulling problem. I drove a bunch of all years, used and new, when I was shopping for mine. I drove my father-in-laws'. I drove a rental for a few hundred miles. I did not notice a pulling problem in any of them.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

I think it is a pretty severe generalization to say that most Genesis sedans have had a pulling problem. I drove a bunch of all years, used and new, when I was shopping for mine. I drove my father-in-laws'. I drove a rental for a few hundred miles. I did not notice a pulling problem in any of them.

Zero pull here . . . ever.

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[Mark_888]

I think it is a pretty severe generalization to say that most Genesis sedans have had a pulling problem. I drove a bunch of all years, used and new, when I was shopping for mine. I drove my father-in-laws'. I drove a rental for a few hundred miles. I did not notice a pulling problem in any of them.

First of all, I said of varying degrees. Some people would not even notice a small amount because it is not much different than other cars. People who used to driving a BMW are more likely to noitce.

But maybe I should have limited that comment to the 2009-2011 models, which were worse than the 2012+. I signficantly improved my 2009 by taking it to an independent suspension shop and letting them allign based on feel (using repeated test drives), not based on specs. I think the orignal allignment specs were tweaked for better steering response, at the risk of oversteering if there was even the slightest uneven wear in the tires or on an uneven road surface.

 

[homeofstone]

I did have a pulling problem on my second set of tires and it was tires. Three bad ones in one set. When the tires are rotated and you then notice a pull its almost certain that at least one tire has a conicity problem causing pull.

Here is another good link regarding tire pull- note the following in the article "A tire that has conicity due to a manufacturing error will be apparent right after installation or immediately following the first time the tires are rotated" http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=12

 

[Gunkk]

No pull here, ever. Michelin Pilot Super Sports FTW.

 

[homeofstone]

First of all, I said of varying degrees. Some people would not even notice a small amount because it is not much different than other cars. People who used to driving a BMW are more likely to noitce.

But maybe I should have limited that comment to the 2009-2011 models, which were worse than the 2012+. I signficantly improved my 2009 by taking it to an independent suspension shop and letting them allign based on feel (using repeated test drives), not based on specs. I think the orignal allignment specs were tweaked for better steering response, at the risk of oversteering if there was even the slightest uneven wear in the tires or on an uneven road surface.

I owned a BMW for 9 years and still have two Mercedes. My 2011 4.6 has only had a pull one time and that was bad tires not the car. The tire mfg. admitted a manufacturing defect after inspection when the tires were sent back to the mfg.

 

[shagnat]

My 2010 does not pull in the slightest. I'm so thrilled as my '08 Azera was hideous about pulling, plus feeling like I was riding on marbles..... constantly having to correct right to left, and left to right to keep it between the white lines.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

Some people would not even notice a small amount because it is not much different than other cars. People who used to driving a BMW are more likely to notice.

So, you attempt to defend your original generalization with two more generalizations even more outlandish and condescending to most of the people posting on this thread. Is this an attempt at sarcastic humor, or are you serious?

 

[GenesisCaptain]

Now with that said could my problem come from the re torque or the alignment?

This will sound like a statement of the obvious, but when I have dealt with chronic alignment problems, the problem was always something mechanical...

First, if you noticed something after an alignment, it was probably the alignment (done incorrectly) that is the culprit.

Next is suspension wear. A little play can cause the alignment tech to misalign the car.

Next is a bad tire.

Next is non-adjustable stuff. The camber in one of my cars was not adjustable. When camber got out of spec, camber plates were the only recourse.

Given the age of your car, I would bet on a bad alignment.

 

[WowCool]

NowNow Boys.. Go out and burn some rubber............
in the last 4 months this forum has become like an old woman's anti drinking
meeting...
Lets get back to the Genesis...............

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

2 years, 30K miles, Two sets of tires, one alingment when new tires were put on, tires rotated/balanced every 5K miles. No pulling issues.

 

[Duck2010]

This will sound like a statement of the obvious, but when I have dealt with chronic alignment problems, the problem was always something mechanical...

First, if you noticed something after an alignment, it was probably the alignment (done incorrectly) that is the culprit.

Next is suspension wear. A little play can cause the alignment tech to misalign the car.

Next is a bad tire.

Next is non-adjustable stuff. The camber in one of my cars was not adjustable. When camber got out of spec, camber plates were the only


recourse.

Given the age of your car, I would bet on a bad alignment.

Thank you, I was thinking it was with a bad alignment.. my case worker with Hyundai does call and make sure that I don't have any problems with the car. I have not call them yet and I really don't think im going to call them until I have tried everything on my part..