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3.8 awd vs. 5.0

Buy a five ultimate in canada, its awd

Yes, I'm aware - I test drove it extensively and back to back with the 3.8 on more than one occasion. Loved the motor, but while I found the seat-of-the pants impression of the extra power to be noticeable, I didn't find it to be drastically so. More to the point, I never found the 3.8 to be remotely lacking in power for day to day driving. I did find it to be every bit as heavy and as thirsty as I would want, though. And truth be told, on a twisty segment of consecutive S-curves that I like to push all test cars through, I preferred the 3.8 straight up.

But that said, if I could have had either one for the same price (as the OP suggests is open to him) it would have been hard to pass it up even if it was going to chug more expensive gas and more of it. Main reason is I think that the normally aspirated V8 is not long for this world and it would be nice to have such a fine example.

But they are not EVEN CLOSE in price - because the V8 only comes fully loaded up here with every conceivable option, most of which I did not want (and did not get on my 3.8).

Had it been RWD only, I probably would not have given it serious consideration. The vastly superior traction of AWD versus RWD comes into play WAAAAY more often than 1% of the time for me. Though I admit to being sorely tempted by a pristine low-mileage 2013 R-Spec 5.0 which felt a whole LOT more visceral and hot-rod-like than the silky and polished 2015. Just loved that car and it cost practically nothing.
 
I love AWD however a good set of snows on all four will make a RWD perform exceptionally well. It will outperform an AWD with all seasons in every aspect except for acceleration from a stop. Throw on winters on an AWD and there is no comparison.

As mentioned it is not just for snow. Wet weather acceleration from a stop with my previous RWD R-Spec was a pita as it would easily break loose and leave you in granny mode as the Yaris passed on by. :roll eyes:

AWD on the Genesis is really nice, select ECO mode and you are 90% RWD if desired.

Would I buy a non AWD, no way however our winters are long and 4 dedicated snows turns the car into a tank.
 
I love AWD however a good set of snows on all four will make a RWD perform exceptionally well. It will outperform an AWD with all seasons in every aspect except for acceleration from a stop. Throw on winters on an AWD and there is no comparison.

As mentioned it is not just for snow. Wet weather acceleration from a stop with my previous RWD R-Spec was a pita as it would easily break loose and leave you in granny mode as the Yaris passed on by. :roll eyes:

AWD on the Genesis is really nice, select ECO mode and you are 90% RWD if desired.

Would I buy a non AWD, no way however our winters are long and 4 dedicated snows turns the car into a tank.

Sounds like AWD might matter to you more than 1% of the time. Me too. :cool:

Absolutely agree that snow tires are the best way to maximize traction regardless of which wheels are putting power down.

And yeah, RWD and wet roads - I will admit that I used to quite enjoy just easily walking away from Mustangs and Camaros in my FWD Sonata if the roads were even slightly damp. :D Then there was the fun in watching RWD cars trying to make it up a winter-slick incline where traction control was absolutely no help at all.

As I mentioned above - I have much respect for the R-Spec and came close to buying one used, but I'm more than happy with my choice.

Makes NO sense that the AWD V8 is not offered in the US, given that it is a much larger market. They're making it anyway, why not sell it to more people?
 
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Maybe next time you should let him ride inside the car, instead of in the engine compartment.

no, Im making the people run besides the car when Im driving :D:D:D
 
I love AWD however a good set of snows on all four will make a RWD perform exceptionally well. It will outperform an AWD with all seasons in every aspect except for acceleration from a stop. Throw on winters on an AWD and there is no comparison.

As mentioned it is not just for snow. Wet weather acceleration from a stop with my previous RWD R-Spec was a pita as it would easily break loose and leave you in granny mode as the Yaris passed on by. :roll eyes:

AWD on the Genesis is really nice, select ECO mode and you are 90% RWD if desired.

Would I buy a non AWD, no way however our winters are long and 4 dedicated snows turns the car into a tank.

RWD outperform AWD in almost every aspect? Please elaborate.
My 2013 R-Spec with brand new winter tires was a lot worse in the snow than my 2015 AWD equipped with all season
 
I've driven my AWD in a light snow as well as 23 inches my area in virginia got this past summer..My sole reason for going with the AWD was bc the winters on the east coast are so back in forth..one yr you can go the entire winter with no snow and the next your getting snow every weekend

the car did well in the 23 inches with the only drawback being the ride height

as for power I find the 3.8 quite quick for it's weight, It feels just as quick as what I traded in for it (2008 VW Touareg V8) that hit 60 about 6.2-5 s
 
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