About to buy a gen sedan worried rwd

[Doubled613]

Thanks guys! I bought the 2011 hyundai genesis 3.8 tech. Im so excited. I need those hood n trunk emblems, center caps and tint asap! Love the car though.

 

[Cut-Throat]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Im so excited. I need those hood n trunk emblems, center caps and tint asap! Love the car though.

You need some tires.

 

[GWNorth]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

I have a 2011 3.8 with Tech and also live in Ottawa. No biggie driving in the snow if you have 4 snow tires on it. I went down to the 17 inch tires on the lower models for Winter. I have a set of steel wheels in the correct 17 inch size and offset if you are interested.

 

[stuofsci02]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Thanks guys! I bought the 2011 hyundai genesis 3.8 tech. Im so excited. I need those hood n trunk emblems, center caps and tint asap! Love the car though.

I would recommend the Michelin Xi3 next winter... I just took mine off and they did very well over the winter..

In case you are interested I was able to get the best price from Canadian Tire (believe it or not).

Here is a thread that has more info.

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=12501&highlight=winter

 

[shagnat]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

If you don't want to go the route of dedicated snow tires, you can do what I did and get a set of All season Continental Extreme Contact DWS. It made all the difference in the world over my Bridgestone Serenity All Seasons, in which the car was completely uncontrollable on snow and ice.

This was a very bad winter here in Minnesota and my Genesis had similar traction with these DWS tires as did my AWD Lexus.

I did not want the PIA of storing, mounting etc with snow tires. I have found a solution. Pirelli also has an excellent All Season tire. Look at the ratings in Tire Rack.

IF the DWS tires were better than the Bridgestones, then the Bridgestones must be the worst tire in the snow ever made. The DWS is horrible in snow, even rain they're pretty bad. I had some, couldn't get rid of them fast enough. Also, check tirerack.com and look at their reviews on the DWS regarding snow...... yuck!!

 

[Cut-Throat]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

IF the DWS tires were better than the Bridgestones, then the Bridgestones must be the worst tire in the snow ever made. The DWS is horrible in snow, even rain they're pretty bad. I had some, couldn't get rid of them fast enough. Also, check tirerack.com and look at their reviews on the DWS regarding snow...... yuck!!

They are first in their class in handling in Snow. So, you don't know what you are talking about or don't know how to drive a rear wheel drive car.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

 

[Jerryss]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

You MUST put snows on this car. We had a real tough winter in Pennsylvania, we had, I think, 14 snowstorms, and I had put on GT Radial™ Champiro Pro Ice snow tires on the stock 17" rims, for I think $82.00 each at my dealer.

I also added 4 50lb bags of "Ice Melt" in the trunk, for 200 lbs of weight in the back.

The only reason a FWD is better, is because of the weight up front. Make the RWD back heavier and the odds are even. Initially in the snow, I was a bit worried, but with dedicated these Snow Tires, I had no problems whatsoever.

BONUS - I am taking these off in 2 weeks, and putting on "Summer" 19"s. Will post pics when I do.

 

[Mark_888]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

The only reason a FWD is better, is because of the weight up front.

That is correct. The typical FWD drive car has about 62% of the weight over the front drive wheels, compared to the Genesis V8 which has about 46% of its weight over the rear drive wheels.

A RWD rear engine car like a Porsche or original VW Beetle is great in the snow.

 

[Billfz1]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

All people used to live in caves. So what?

A long time ago I moved to the snow belt and had a RWD car. But I had to get studded snow tires for the rear wheels. These days cars like the Genesis have ESC and anti-lock brakes which both help a lot, but there are so many RWD or AWD options out there, it seems silly get RWD if a person can only have one car (assuming that one must drive when it snows, which is no longer true these days for many people who can work at home on snow days).

The point I was making wasn't to move to caves, or to buy a 1962 Chevy. The point is that MANY vehicles are not great snow cars. With modern snow tires a rear wheel drive car can work fine in the snow. Not as well as a all wheel drive WITH THE SAME MODERN TIRES. But everyone's capabilities are different. Someone mentioned Porsches and VWs.They are ok but can be very dangerous to an unskilled driver. They oversteer violently when they break loose. Point being there in no vehicle that can be considered great on snow and ice. The California Highway Patrol statistics show the worst accidents in snow country are usually 4x4 mini pickups. Overconfident drivers get into more trouble before slowing down.
Bill

 

[Mark_888]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

The point I was making wasn't to move to caves, or to buy a 1962 Chevy. The point is that MANY vehicles are not great snow cars. With modern snow tires a rear wheel drive car can work fine in the snow. Not as well as a all wheel drive WITH THE SAME MODERN TIRES. But everyone's capabilities are different. Someone mentioned Porsches and VWs.They are ok but can be very dangerous to an unskilled driver. They oversteer violently when they break loose. Point being there in no vehicle that can be considered great on snow and ice. The California Highway Patrol statistics show the worst accidents in snow country are usually 4x4 mini pickups. Overconfident drivers get into more trouble before slowing down.
Bill

Yes, I agree that overconfidence is a big problem, and even AWD drive does little on pure ice. But overall, IMO FWD is better in snowy climates than RWD, unless one gets very good snow tires for their RWD. Not everyone is willing to mess with snow tires, and given the wide variety of FWD vehicles available, if it were me, I would go with FWD or AWD if I only had vehicle, and if I could not work at home on snowy days. Obviously, for those who live in warmer climates where it doesn't snow, or only occasionally snows, RWD is not a problem. Obviously, these are just my opinions, and I understand that others have different ideas.

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[Jimmmmbo!]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Thanks guys! I bought the 2011 hyundai genesis 3.8 tech. Im so excited. I need those hood n trunk emblems, center caps and tint asap! Love the car though.

If you want to try some snow tires, I'll be turning in my Genesis this year and won't be needing mine anymore.

They're Michelin X-Ice 2s, and they have been great here in Minneapolis. Only about 6,000 miles on them and plenty of rubber left. They're 17"s, though, so if you have 18"s on your car you'll need to know if they'll clear the front calipers with the rims that I have.

PM me if you're interested.

 

[Eric Gustavson]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Take it from a Minnesota neighbor. Get winter wheels and put Blizzacks on all four wheels. That and a three bags of softener salt in the trunk are all you need for the kind of winter driving we do.

 

[DRS]

^^^^ +1

 

[Cut-Throat]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Take it from a Minnesota neighbor. Get winter wheels and put Blizzacks on all four wheels. That and a three bags of softener salt in the trunk are all you need for the kind of winter driving we do.

That will work just fine, if you don't mind changing tires twice a year and storing them someplace.

If you don't want to go through this hassle, just get a set of All Season Continental DWS extreme Contacts. I drove around just fine this winter after getting these tires. No salt in the trunk either. I also live in Plymouth, Minnesota.

Best in Class for winter snow traction at Tire Rack. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

 

[cspartan]

Winter tires and rims are not such a hassle. I swap and store mine for $75 at the dealer that Tirerack shipped them to. That's $25 for the change over and $50 per season for storage - so $75 this week to go back to my stock 18" rims and Dunflops (yep still plenty of tread left on the things at 35K, will be replaced next spring) and $75 come Nov to get my 17" rims and Generals put back on. Takes 15-20 minutes, no hassle at all.

MN as well.

 

[Cut-Throat]

Re: About to buy a Genesis Sedan worried rwd

Winter tires and rims are not such a hassle. I swap and store mine for $75 at the dealer that Tirerack shipped them to. That's $25 for the change over and $50 per season for storage - so $75 this week to go back to my stock 18" rims and Dunflops (yep still plenty of tread left on the things at 35K, will be replaced next spring) and $75 come Nov to get my 17" rims and Generals put back on. Takes 15-20 minutes, no hassle at all.

MN as well.

I'm glad you're happy with it. But as a friend of mine here in Minnesota told me, he took his Blizzaks off last year in early April when it looked like Spring was here. Then we got a mid April snowstorm and his car was uncontrollable with his 'summer' tires.

To each his own, but for me, two extra stops each year at a dealer is more inconvenient than using my Continental extreme contact DWS tires year round.

enjoy your decision.