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Almost $45k after taxes.. What do you think?

I know we don't see the car yet - but that's a pretty high price. Not for what you get - because for what you get, that's still a great bargain! But it's "up there" in price.

We know that the V6 will top out at around $38k. AROUND $38k. We're still not even sure if that might mean $39 or $40k.. And we're pretty sure that the v8 will top out at about $5k more than the V6. So we're probably looking at somewhere AROUND $45k when all is said and done.

That's a lot for a Hyundai - but still a bargain when you consider what you're getting.. At this point - what do you think of this?

I have already posted my thoughts on what I would be willing to pay for the car; but I keep coming back to your post and questions arise. What is your source for the $38K "top out" price for the V6? I have been following all the Genesis info pretty closely; but I have missed seeing definitive pricing anywhere.

Hyundai has made a pretty large issue of the pricing for the Genesis in comparison to other well known, accredited Luxury cars; and I really think any advertised price for the Genesis that begins with a "4" is going to be an immediate turn-off for their introductory efforts. IMO, an unproven V8 engine and a Hyundai nameplate coupled with a MSRP over $40K creates a hurdle too high to jump in a market where gasoline prices are in excess of $4 per gallon.

Personally, I would hate to see that happen; because the car has the potential to be an excellent choice if the pricing is palatable to the consumer.
 
I got the pricing from somewhere on THIS site. I forget exactly which post..
 
If it's $45,000 loaded, tax included, I don't think that's unreasonable considering the features that come with the car. I suspect that most the buyers will opt for the V6 version around $35-38K. How could they ever live with "only" 290 hp? :P
 
If it's $45,000 loaded, tax included, I don't think that's unreasonable considering the features that come with the car. I suspect that most the buyers will opt for the V6 version around $35-38K. How could they ever live with "only" 290 hp? :P
I know. 290 is a lot. That's basically a Northstar Cadillac - and those are very quick for their size...
 

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First of all, welcome aboard.

Well, I am more into V6, since the gas prices is heading towards $4.00 a gallon, having a V8 can really bust your budget really quick. To tell you the truth, my current 08 Grand Prix's 3.8 liter costs me a lot more than I expected compared to my previous 3.4L 99 Grandam. I thought 0.4 Liter wasn't really that much of a difference, but boy was I wrong, but yeah, if the power and performance is your number one priority, then maybe V8 is for you. But to me, I am pretty happy with my current ride.

I sure hope Hyundai succeeds with these new cars, though, if they don't price them right, they can't expect to sell however much units they are shooting for. It's their first ever luxury cars in the US, so most American buyers will be picky about it, and it won't be easy to have their wallet open for that hefty price for a Hyundai, well, for now. If the Genesis does well, and gets positive response from its owners and if it gets good ratings from the magazines and medias, then, Hyundai may see some sales gets boosted, but I fear that their first year sales won't be much, and even if it happens, Hyundai should not despair and should not be surpriced at all. First year new cars are always a tough sale, unless that particular model is a well-loved, well-established models such as Toyota's Camry, or Honda's Accord.
 
First of all, welcome aboard.

Well, I am more into V6, since the gas prices is heading towards $4.00 a gallon, having a V8 can really bust your budget really quick. To tell you the truth, my current 08 Grand Prix's 3.8 liter costs me a lot more than I expected compared to my previous 3.4L 99 Grandam. I thought 0.4 Liter wasn't really that much of a difference, but boy was I wrong, but yeah, if the power and performance is your number one priority, then maybe V8 is for you. But to me, I am pretty happy with my current ride.

I sure hope Hyundai succeeds with these new cars, though, if they don't price them right, they can't expect to sell however much units they are shooting for. It's their first ever luxury cars in the US, so most American buyers will be picky about it, and it won't be easy to have their wallet open for that hefty price for a Hyundai, well, for now. If the Genesis does well, and gets positive response from its owners and if it gets good ratings from the magazines and medias, then, Hyundai may see some sales gets boosted, but I fear that their first year sales won't be much, and even if it happens, Hyundai should not despair and should not be surpriced at all. First year new cars are always a tough sale, unless that particular model is a well-loved, well-established models such as Toyota's Camry, or Honda's Accord.
I think the Azera was a pretty good first serious luxury car for Hyundai. Honestly, even the XG series was pretty luxurious - but not really taken seriously.. But they do have some experience here...
 
Eek.....I hope it's not in the mid to upper $40's. But for what you get it is one hell of a package especially with the 10 year/100k warranty
 
Eek.....I hope it's not in the mid to upper $40's. But for what you get it is one hell of a package especially with the 10 year/100k warranty
Regarding warranty, they're beginning to have less of an advantage there lately. There are several companies which offer excellent, fairly long-term warranties these days. Certainly not Mercedes or BMW, however..
 
Regarding warranty, they're beginning to have less of an advantage there lately. There are several companies which offer excellent, fairly long-term warranties these days. Certainly not Mercedes or BMW, however..

Warranties have been getting better for car companies but the only ones I can think of that have the same warranty as Hyundai/Kia is Mitsubishi and the only reason they are even doing that is to get people to buy their junk cars. I just want to know if they are planning on doing a high performance version of the Genesis sedan. When they made the Tai V8 they said it was built to support F/I applications as well as "future technologies". I'd be down for a twin turbo 4.6 V8 with their warranty!:D
 
I'm pretty confident we'll see a turbo or super charged Genesis down the road.

The other warranties I'm impressed with are from GM and Chrysler..
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Warranties have been getting better for car companies but the only ones I can think of that have the same warranty as Hyundai/Kia is Mitsubishi and the only reason they are even doing that is to get people to buy their junk cars. I just want to know if they are planning on doing a high performance version of the Genesis sedan. When they made the Tai V8 they said it was built to support F/I applications as well as "future technologies". I'd be down for a twin turbo 4.6 V8 with their warranty!:D

I'm pretty sure Suzuki and Isuzu also do a 10 year and 100,000 mile warranty. GM is up to 7 years, 100,000 miles and I think many people would drive more than 100,000 miles in 7 years. And of course, Chrysler now has a lifetime engine and transmission warranty for the original owner of the car.
 
I'm pretty sure Suzuki and Isuzu also do a 10 year and 100,000 mile warranty. GM is up to 7 years, 100,000 miles and I think many people would drive more than 100,000 miles in 7 years. And of course, Chrysler now has a lifetime engine and transmission warranty for the original owner of the car.
I don't inderstand why Chevy doesn't go with a 10 year/100,000 mill warranty. The Suzuki Reno is a Chevy in Canada but in the US since it's badged as a Suzuki it has the nice warranty. I don't understand why all car companies don't have a nice warranty on them.
 
I thought I remembered a sales at Buick telling me about a 100,000 mile warranty when I was looking at an Enclave...
 
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I thought I remembered a sales at Buick telling me about a 100,000 mile warranty when I was looking at an Enclave...

You would be correct. This is from Buick's website

Proven Quality Backed by Buick and GM

Buick quality is built into every detail of every Buick. And in 2008 we're standing behind our vehicles with a 4-year/50,000-mile Bumper-to-Bumper new vehicle limited warranty on all 2008 Buick models. And, now the Buick 100,000 Mile Powertrain Limited Warranty gives you a new level of confidence.

This limited warranty even covers your tires, your towing and all GM accessories sold by GM that are permanently installed on your GM vehicle prior to delivery.

Take a look at the protection you can count on with every 2008 Buick model:

* Bumper-to-Bumper — 4 years/50,000 miles, whichever comes first
* Sheet Metal — 4 years/50,000 miles, whichever comes first
* Corrosion Coverage — 4 years/50,000 miles, whichever comes first
* Rust-Through Coverage — 6 years/unlimited mileage
* Powertrain — 5 years/100,000 miles, whichever comes first

The Buick 100,000-Mile/5-Year Limited Powertrain Warranty — A New Level of Confidence

In addition to the vehicle coverage described above and in the Warranty and Owner Assistance Information booklet, General Motors will provide each 2008 model year passenger car, light duty truck or van with a deductible limited powertrain warranty for 5 years, or 100,000 miles/160,000 kms (whichever comes first), from the original in-service date of the vehicle, for repairs which are required as a result of defects due to material and/or workmanship to the powertrain components as listed below:

Engine
Cylinder head, block, timing gears, timing chain, timing cover, oil pump/oil pump housing, OHC carriers, valve covers, oil pan, seals, gaskets, turbocharger, supercharger and all internal lubricated parts as well as manifolds, flywheel, water pump, harmonic balancer and engine mounts. Timing belts are covered until the first scheduled maintenance interval.

Transmission/Transaxle/Transfer Case
Case, all internal lubricated parts, torque converter, transfer case, transmission/transaxle mounts, seals, and gaskets.

Drive Systems
Final drive housing, all internal lubricated parts, axle shafts and bearings, constant velocity joints, axle housing, propeller shafts, universal joints, wheel bearings, locking hubs, front differential actuator, supports, front and rear hub bearings, seals and gaskets.

Courtesy Transportation System
During the first 5 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first, alternate transportation and/or reimbursement of certain transportation expenses will be available under the Courtesy Transportation Program if your vehicle requires repairs under the limited powertrain warranty. Several transportation options are available. Refer to your Owners Manual for details, including reservation of rights, or consult your dealer.

Roadside Assistance System
General Motors is proud to offer the response, security, and convenience of the 24-hour Roadside Assistance Program for a period of 5 years or 100,000 miles/160,000 kms, whichever comes first. Refer to your Owner Manual for details, or consult your dealer. The Roadside Assistance contact information is listed in the Customer Assistance Offices section of the Warranty and Owner Assistance Information booklet.

What Is Not Covered
All the above items are not covered for damage due to accident, misuse, alteration, insufficient or improper maintenance, contaminated or poor quality fuel. For complete details refer to your Warranty and Owner Assistance Information booklet.

This is a supplement to the express conditions and warranties described in the Warranty and Owner Assistance Information booklet. Other coverages are not extended or altered due to this supplement.

For 2008 model year passenger car, light duty truck and van owners requiring more coverage than what is provided with the limited powertrain warranty and the New Vehicle Limited Warranty, an authorized GM service contract (GM Protection Plan) is available through your dealer. These are the only plans recommended by General Motors. See your dealer for details.
 
I don't inderstand why Chevy doesn't go with a 10 year/100,000 mill warranty. The Suzuki Reno is a Chevy in Canada but in the US since it's badged as a Suzuki it has the nice warranty. I don't understand why all car companies don't have a nice warranty on them.

I don't know either.
 
I don't know either.
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