Any chance of a Genesis version of the Stinger?

[MG8]

Yes, your opinions.

I already debunked your numerous, erroneous assertions such as...



If anything, Hyundai (in particular, its CUV lineup) and Genesis (new design language) exemplify the Russian doll syndrome more than Kia; but then again, that's what the Germans are notorious for doing.




As stated, Kia interiors tend to be higher end than the correlating Hyundai model.




The G90 does not blow away the K900's interior, as attested by other forum members.

In fact, Genesis had to upgrade certain areas of the G90's interior (such as leather-wrapping the center console) for its refresh to bring it up to par w/ the K900's.




You're not stating anything that I already don't know, but you're wrong about the pricing.

The Sonata starts at $22.6k.

The Optima starts a little higher at $23k.

The Optima had the SXL trim ($36k) which is significantly higher than the Limited trim for the Sonata ($32.2k).


The Santa Fe starts at $25.9k and tops out w/ the Limited trim at $39.2k.

The Sorento (an older model) starts at $26.3k and tops out w/ the SXL trim for $46.5k - that's $5.3k more in price than the Hyundai.

Hyundai added the Ultimate trim for the Tucson ($33.1k), but that still undercuts the SX trim for the Sportage ($34.6k).

The Cadenza is also priced higher than the departed Azera and has a higher-end interior; the Cadenza tops out at $44.1k whereas the Azera topped out at $39.3k.

It was the Cadenza, and not the Azera, that was seen as being more an ES competitor rather than an Avalon competitor.

so who made the tau engine or even the lambda, the gamma engine ? no its not the other way around, its not kia motors that owns hyundai or genesis, i dont work for kia now unless they marked up prices lately idk , but i would still buy a hyundai or a genesis over a kia thats what I prefer and as far as g90 interior thats your opinion your not going to sell me in the kia i like the g90 interior better and think it looks better than the kia over all. A mercedes benz owner will not cross shop and take a peek at a kia you have a better chance of a benz owner looking at a Genesis , but cool story bro.

 

[MG8]

Yes, your opinions.

I already debunked your numerous, erroneous assertions such as...



If anything, Hyundai (in particular, its CUV lineup) and Genesis (new design language) exemplify the Russian doll syndrome more than Kia; but then again, that's what the Germans are notorious for doing.




As stated, Kia interiors tend to be higher end than the correlating Hyundai model.




The G90 does not blow away the K900's interior, as attested by other forum members.

In fact, Genesis had to upgrade certain areas of the G90's interior (such as leather-wrapping the center console) for its refresh to bring it up to par w/ the K900's.




You're not stating anything that I already don't know, but you're wrong about the pricing.

The Sonata starts at $22.6k.

The Optima starts a little higher at $23k.

The Optima had the SXL trim ($36k) which is significantly higher than the Limited trim for the Sonata ($32.2k).


The Santa Fe starts at $25.9k and tops out w/ the Limited trim at $39.2k.

The Sorento (an older model) starts at $26.3k and tops out w/ the SXL trim for $46.5k - that's $5.3k more in price than the Hyundai.

Hyundai added the Ultimate trim for the Tucson ($33.1k), but that still undercuts the SX trim for the Sportage ($34.6k).

The Cadenza is also priced higher than the departed Azera and has a higher-end interior; the Cadenza tops out at $44.1k whereas the Azera topped out at $39.3k.

It was the Cadenza, and not the Azera, that was seen as being more an ES competitor rather than an Avalon competitor.

the sonata, santa fe ect ....through the line up interior lay out and lighting in a hyundai looks better. as far as kia russian design, from front the all look the same. look at a sonata and a elantra looks totally different. and you can g70 , g80 ,g90 you can point them apart. i mean i can point out a 70, 80 or 90 and wont mistake them for one another.

 

[MG8]

Yes, your opinions.

I already debunked your numerous, erroneous assertions such as...



If anything, Hyundai (in particular, its CUV lineup) and Genesis (new design language) exemplify the Russian doll syndrome more than Kia; but then again, that's what the Germans are notorious for doing.




As stated, Kia interiors tend to be higher end than the correlating Hyundai model.




The G90 does not blow away the K900's interior, as attested by other forum members.

In fact, Genesis had to upgrade certain areas of the G90's interior (such as leather-wrapping the center console) for its refresh to bring it up to par w/ the K900's.




You're not stating anything that I already don't know, but you're wrong about the pricing.

The Sonata starts at $22.6k.

The Optima starts a little higher at $23k.

The Optima had the SXL trim ($36k) which is significantly higher than the Limited trim for the Sonata ($32.2k).


The Santa Fe starts at $25.9k and tops out w/ the Limited trim at $39.2k.

The Sorento (an older model) starts at $26.3k and tops out w/ the SXL trim for $46.5k - that's $5.3k more in price than the Hyundai.

Hyundai added the Ultimate trim for the Tucson ($33.1k), but that still undercuts the SX trim for the Sportage ($34.6k).

The Cadenza is also priced higher than the departed Azera and has a higher-end interior; the Cadenza tops out at $44.1k whereas the Azera topped out at $39.3k.

It was the Cadenza, and not the Azera, that was seen as being more an ES competitor rather than an Avalon competitor.

again with that said , kias are good cars though. would i own one NO I PREFER HYUNDAI and GENESIS.

 

[YEH]

^ Many of us are well versed in the relationship btwn Hyundai and Kia and now, your personal preferences.

But nonetheless, your assertions about the Russian doll syndrome, Hyundais having higher quality interiors and higher prices are simply incorrect.

 

[MG8]

^ Many of us are well versed in the relationship btwn Hyundai and Kia and now, your personal preferences.

But nonetheless, your assertions about the Russian doll syndrome, Hyundais having higher quality interiors and higher prices are simply incorrect.

that's awesome, there all great cars i agree.

 

[MG8]

^ Many of us are well versed in the relationship btwn Hyundai and Kia and now, your personal preferences.

But nonetheless, your assertions about the Russian doll syndrome, Hyundais having higher quality interiors and higher prices are simply incorrect.

incorrect in what language show me where is says im simply incorrect show me where it says kia has higher quality show me what engines kia makes please? show me what is correct. man is this kim jong un burner account ^^^^^^^ ...................... grabbing some popcorn.........................................................

 

[MG8]

like i said before nothing wrong with kia and they are all great cars.

 

[MG8]

As of December 31, 2013, Hyundai owns 33.88% of Kia Motors.

Lemme preface this by saying I'm not trying to start an argument (or get into this existing one).

I too can google!

"Kia in turn is a minority owner of more than twenty Hyundai subsidiaries ranging from 4.9% up to 45.37%, totaling more than US$8.3 billion."
--WIkipedia (yes I know this is not a credible source)

I think you have to take the stuff taken off a Hyundai dealer website with a grain of salt. At the end of the day, they are trying to sell their cars and the way things are phrased are going to be influenced by that.

The group was formed through the purchase of 51% of South Korea's second largest car company, Kia Motors, by Hyundai Motor Company in 1998. As of December 31, 2013, Hyundai owns 33.88% of Kia Motors.

 

[YEH]

incorrect in what language show me where is says im simply incorrect show me where it says kia has higher quality show me what engines kia makes please? show me what is correct. man is this kim jong un burner account ^^^^^^^ ...................... grabbing some popcorn.........................................................

Already explained the instances where the Kia model has the nicer interior, as well as the higher price.

No one is saying that Kia makes their own engines - H/K share development of engines, transmissions and platforms.

 

[MG8]

Already explained the instances where the Kia model has the nicer interior, as well as the higher price.

No one is saying that Kia makes their own engines - H/K share development of engines, transmissions and platforms.

That's your opinion about interior design.

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[MG8]

Again.
Kia and Hyundai are both car makers that originated in South Korea, and as a result of Kia’s bankruptcy in 2007 Hyundai now owns a part of their company. Many of the comparable models of each car maker share the exact same body structure as a result. However, Kia does still operate independently and has a separate design workshop, marketing, and branding.
When it comes to practical differences, here are the main distinctions:

• Design. Hyundai uses a curvy, flowing body structure and luxury interior while Kia aims for a sportier look to appeal to a younger generation.
• Demographics. The design and luxury interior of Hyundai cars are aimed at an older age group who want great value and quality at affordable prices, while the sporty design and lower-priced cars are targeted to a much younger crowd.
• Console system. Hyundai’s Blue Link interior console system is designed for the convenience of the driver and how they can operate the vehicle, while Kia’s UVO system appeals to sporty-minded drivers by focusing on the vehicle and its performance or maintenance.
• Outlook. Hyundai has been established in Canada and North America for much longer than Kia, and as a result is a higher end brand. Kia, however, is one of the fastest growing car brands as it gains a foothold in Canada by appealing to younger drivers.

So when it comes down to it, the differences in style and functionality between Kia and Hyundai vehicles comes down to the group each car maker targets: Hyundai are slightly more expensive but offers more luxury and quality for older drivers, while Kia are priced more affordable and designed for younger car owners.

 

[MG8]

When comparing the Kia vs. Hyundai models above, something you may have noticed is the model years of the vehicles. Kia models have rolled over to 2019, while Hyundai models are still in 2018. This difference in model year can partly account for the differences in prices. Though the 2018 Hyundai models are priced lower than the 2019 Kia models, the 2019 Hyundai models will likely jump up in price and come at a higher price point than the 2019 Kia models. For example, the 2018 Kia Forte was $16,800, while the 2018 Hyundai Elantra was $16,950.

 

[MG8]

Overall, both Hyundai and Kia have some sporty options and engines, but Hyundai takes the cake (and lets you eat it too) with models like the Sonata and Veloster along with the standalone Genesis brand.

 

[YEH]

^ Again, you're not telling me (or most here) anything we don't already know about the relationship btwn Hyundai and Kia, and Kia having higher prices for certain models has little to do w/ MY.

Like I had stated prior, Kia has the SX-L trim which is a higher-spec trim than anything Hyundai has offered (Ford did something along the same lines for its Vignale trim over in Europe), and since Kia has a smaller Euro lineup than Hyundai, they had to make their interior more suitable for Euro tastes.

Lastly, w/ the Cadenza, Kia made it more of an ES competitor than an Avalon competitor, and thus was more luxurious than the departed Azera (in its latest iteration via a refresh, the Cadenza gets real wood trim).

 

[MG8]

^ Again, you're not telling me (or most here) anything we don't already know about the relationship btwn Hyundai and Kia, and Kia having higher prices for certain models has little to do w/ MY.

Like I had stated prior, Kia has the SX-L trim which is a higher-spec trim than anything Hyundai has offered (Ford did something along the same lines for its Vignale trim over in Europe), and since Kia has a smaller Euro lineup than Hyundai, they had to make their interior more suitable for Euro tastes.

Lastly, w/ the Cadenza, Kia made it more of an ES competitor than an Avalon competitor, and thus was more luxurious than the departed Azera (in its latest iteration via a refresh, the Cadenza gets real wood trim).

Hyundai has limited ultimate.
like I said they are all great cars.

 

[norinse]

Personally, I think they could make a sportback version of the G70 (with a 40/20/40 split back seat). After they’ve built their SUVs and the coupe of course. Eventually, their sales will increase and they’ll need to find extra sales increased segmentation. Something to compete with the Audi A5 Sportback directly. With the new 2.5T it could be compelling, obviously. But a bit niche. Until sportbacks take over the world from crossovers.

 

[Electrode]

Sales are a flop for any mid to large size sedans today because the manufacturers and media are pushing electric alternatives and cross overs to people, and people are buying into it hook, line, and sinker.

Honda sold 30,000 Accords in August.

 

[RCH04]

Honda sold 30,000 Accords in August.

Yeah, and 32,000 Camry's (5,000 Lexus ES and 3.000 Avalon's). This segment isn't the powerhouse it used to be, but it still represents a lot of cars for the manufacturers.

 

[MG8]

unfortunately, the Stinger may not live on after its first generation kia might be killing it off.

 

[norinse]

unfortunately, the Stinger may not live on after its first generation kia might be killing it off.

I think the rumors of its death are greatly exaggerated. There hasn’t been any indication of this. There was one automotive blog journalist that mid-paraphrased one of the designers. He said “I don’t know what the future holds for the Stinger.” He suggested it might become a hybrid-electric performance car someday. And the blog-journalist write the headline as “stinger future in doubt.” These are obviously very different things.