Anybody go G80 to G90? Was it a nice upgrade?

[XXX]

The 80 and 90 are entirely different cars.

 

[hos111]

I had a 2017 G90; loved it, but thought it a little big. Traded it for 2021 G80; better size for me.

 

[MEV]

Here is a write up when i was considering an Acura RLX sport Hybrid, i drove the G80 and G90 back to back. A twin turbo AWD 2018 G90 is now in my drive way.

*Warning* Subjective opinions below! Also, I am not a german car guy so I would not consider any of them, thus, I have not spent any time in them.

My definition of "sporty" is: Direct, connected, immediate, accurate, linear, "feelie-er"

The 2018 G80 sport 3.3 twin turbo AWD handles very similarly to my 2010 TL SH-SWD. It is as "sporty" feeling as my TL, though slightly larger, it does not feel like it.

It is more "sporty" feeling than the 2018 RLX sport hybrid i drove last weekend. I did not get a chance to determine if their AWD has the same torque vectoring capability as my TL or the RLX.

I think the exterior looks nicer than my TL and the RLX. The G80 interior is better in terms of the screens/navigation function/look, but the interior, although nice, is slightly "less nice" than my TL or the RLX.

The huge surprise to me was the 2017 3.3 twin turbo AWD G90. This is a larger car than the RLX, however the ride is "sportier" and the car over-all feels "sportier" than the RLX. Regardless of the driving mode selected for either the RLX or G90.

I find the exterior view of the G90 in person to look very cool.

The interior of the G90 is extremely good to excellent, the fitment and material quality is very good, although i am not a huge fan of gloss wood. The back seat is very, very good, whoever gets to ride back there will be in for a treat.

 

[skipgen]

Here is a write up when i was considering an Acura RLX sport Hybrid, i drove the G80 and G90 back to back. A twin turbo AWD 2018 G90 is now in my drive way.

*Warning* Subjective opinions below! Also, I am not a german car guy so I would not consider any of them, thus, I have not spent any time in them.

My definition of "sporty" is: Direct, connected, immediate, accurate, linear, "feelie-er"

The 2018 G80 sport 3.3 twin turbo AWD handles very similarly to my 2010 TL SH-SWD. It is as "sporty" feeling as my TL, though slightly larger, it does not feel like it.

It is more "sporty" feeling than the 2018 RLX sport hybrid i drove last weekend. I did not get a chance to determine if their AWD has the same torque vectoring capability as my TL or the RLX.

I think the exterior looks nicer than my TL and the RLX. The G80 interior is better in terms of the screens/navigation function/look, but the interior, although nice, is slightly "less nice" than my TL or the RLX.

The huge surprise to me was the 2017 3.3 twin turbo AWD G90. This is a larger car than the RLX, however the ride is "sportier" and the car over-all feels "sportier" than the RLX. Regardless of the driving mode selected for either the RLX or G90.

I find the exterior view of the G90 in person to look very cool.

The interior of the G90 is extremely good to excellent, the fitment and material quality is very good, although i am not a huge fan of gloss wood. The back seat is very, very good, whoever gets to ride back there will be in for a treat.

I'm surprised that they didn't put open pore wood in it... I sure do like it in my 5.0 Ultimate.

 

[katulu]

I'm surprised that they didn't put open pore wood in it... I sure do like it in my 5.0 Ultimate.

Open pore came in the 2020, he reviewed a 2017.

 

[SuperKing]

I just upgraded to a 2020 G90 from a 2015 Hyundai Genesis. The extra 6" in wheelbase takes some getting used to but so far so good. The ride is really floaty if that's what you're into. I set up my Custom mode so the suspension is in sport mode so it feels more like the 2015 in Normal mode. Some of it probably has to do with the tires. I went from the Michelin A/S 3's back to the factory ProContact TX which I'm going to have to get rid of soon. Not my favourite tire..

One big difference I've noticed is how much more bass there is compared to the 2015 Lexicon system. This is bass that you can legitimately feel. I wish that there was more adjustability than Trebel, Mid and Bass but it sounds a lot better than the 2015 which I thought was already pretty good.

I've mostly just driven in the city and maybe just 30 min worth of highway driving but LFA was something the 2015 was really missing. I had to install Openpilot in my 2015 to add that functionality. Downside is the G90 only manages about 2 minutes before telling you to put your hands on the wheel where Openpilot tracks your eyes to make sure you're watching the road. I may still install it in the G90 but I'm going to drive it as is for a few months before deciding.

I say it's a worthwhile upgrade if you don't mind the size difference. I'm finding parking lots to be a pain right now but it just takes getting used to. Took me a while to get used to the 2015 which was 8" longer than my Sonata and that was 16" longer than my MR2 Turbo.

 

[Ninja400]

MEV and SuperKing, would you say there's a noticeable difference in noise/quietness at highway speeds between the Hyundai Genesis / G80 and the G90?
I'm trying to choose between the G80 & G90 - going to test drive them next week, hopefully - and a silent cabin is more important to me than a comfortable ride and better interior materials (though I want those as well ). Thanks.

 

[SuperKing]

I did take it on a 50km trip going about 100kph on a highway and I was having conversations with people in the car without shouting... just normal voice levels and I also think one of the reasons why the Lexicon system sounds better is because it's quieter in the cabin. It's quiet enough that in sport mode, they give you the option to blast fake engine noises even with the V8... didn't need that in the 2015 Genesis, you could hear the engine just fine...

The 2015 Genesis was already pretty good but I could still hear the road noise and large trucks driving by. Part of it was my Michelin A/S 3's, they're really loud compared to the DWS06 I had previously. I'm still on the factory ProContact TX right now which is a quiet tire.

I would say the difference is noticeable... but I'm not sure how it compares to the GV80 with active noise cancellation. I'm sure the 2023 G90 redesign will come with that if you can wait that long.

 

[Ninja400]

That's good to know, looks like the G90 is the way to go then. Especially since the price difference between a top trim G80 and the V8 G90 is so low - $69 vs $82k at the moment = $13k / 19% more.

The G90 not being redesigned yet sucks - probably would have already bought it if it had been refreshed like the G80; this refresh seems like a pretty big upgrade.
What I'm thinking of right now is to get a Lexus ES350 or ES300h - probably not as comfortable as the Genesii, but still very tolerable and only $53.5k, keep it for a few years, then give it to my parents or brother and buy a '24 or '25 G90 once they've worked out any potential issues with the first model year.

 

[MEV]

MEV and SuperKing, would you say there's a noticeable difference in noise/quietness at highway speeds between the Hyundai Genesis / G80 and the G90?
I'm trying to choose between the G80 & G90 - going to test drive them next week, hopefully - and a silent cabin is more important to me than a comfortable ride and better interior materials (though I want those as well ). Thanks.

I was surprised at the difference in the G80 an G90. The fit and finish and "refinement" was much greater in the G90 than the G80, and i found the G80 very nice. The G90 is really a step or three above the G80 overall.

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[skipgen]

I did take it on a 50km trip going about 100kph on a highway and I was having conversations with people in the car without shouting... just normal voice levels and I also think one of the reasons why the Lexicon system sounds better is because it's quieter in the cabin. It's quiet enough that in sport mode, they give you the option to blast fake engine noises even with the V8... didn't need that in the 2015 Genesis, you could hear the engine just fine...

The 2015 Genesis was already pretty good but I could still hear the road noise and large trucks driving by. Part of it was my Michelin A/S 3's, they're really loud compared to the DWS06 I had previously. I'm still on the factory ProContact TX right now which is a quiet tire.

I would say the difference is noticeable... but I'm not sure how it compares to the GV80 with active noise cancellation. I'm sure the 2023 G90 redesign will come with that if you can wait that long.

I think those diamond pattern wheels would look great on a G80...!

 

[NashvilleEquus]

Saw this 2022 G80 at our local dealer (Genesis of Cool Springs, Franklin, TN) on Tuesday. Had just been delivered.

These did not look as good as the G90 wheels due to the exposed lugs and "plain flat" center area... IMO.

 

[skipgen]

Saw this 2022 G80 at our local dealer (Genesis of Cool Springs, Franklin, TN) on Tuesday. Had just been delivered.

These did not look as good as the G90 wheels due to the exposed lugs and "plain flat" center area... IMO.

Yeah... They kinda "dumbed" those down a bit. I was wondering how the OEM G90 wheels would look on a DH.

 

[XXX]

That's good to know, looks like the G90 is the way to go then. Especially since the price difference between a top trim G80 and the V8 G90 is so low - $69 vs $82k at the moment = $13k / 19% more.

The G90 not being redesigned yet sucks - probably would have already bought it if it had been refreshed like the G80; this refresh seems like a pretty big upgrade.
What I'm thinking of right now is to get a Lexus ES350 or ES300h - probably not as comfortable as the Genesii, but still very tolerable and only $53.5k, keep it for a few years, then give it to my parents or brother and buy a '24 or '25 G90 once they've worked out any potential issues with the first model year.

I've owned the ES and LS cars. An ES350 is not the same car nor the same ride as the G90 or even the LS460/ LS500. It's smaller, noisier and less comfort. I believe the 2018 G80 is the better car.

 

[Ninja400]

I drove a G80 3.5t and a G90 3.3t back-to-back today. With regard to this thread's topic: "Anybody go G80 to G90? Was it a nice upgrade?"

Yes, it's a huge upgrade. The G80 is a competent luxury car. It's pretty quiet, has a comfortable suspension which does a good job of absorbing road imperfections, and has good tech. But the G90 is 95% as good as the Mercedes S Class, BMW 7 Series, etc. (I've driven both of those). It's much quieter and noise from the world around you is blocked out more effectively. The suspension is much better at deleting road imperfections. And maybe I'm just weird, but when I got into these three big luxury sedans (G90, S class, 750) I felt calm, relaxed, and at peace - even from just sitting in them for a few minutes. The G80 doesn't do that at all for me. Even the BMW X7, which in terms of materials and comfort and quietness is very close to the 7 series sedan, doesn't do that for me. I don't know what sort of magic they use when designing these sedans to make them feel this way. Also, in person the G90 looks much more substantial/important compared to the G80.

The 3.3t in the G90 impressed me. I'm sure it's not as good as the 5 liter V8 - I'd say it felt a bit worse than the V8s in the BMW 750 and the S class. But it still pulls the car along fairly effortlessly and doesn't make excessive noise from normal driving use, and you never feel like the engine is being stressed. It fits the character of the car fairly well - but again, the V8 would probably do that even better. The dealer I went do didn't have a V8 G90 in stock, but I was completely satisfied with the 3.3t which is not what I was expecting.

The 2021 3.3t AWD Prestige G80 is $69k. From what I've heard about the upcoming 2022 G80, to get the 3.5t engine (weak 4 cylinder engines absolutely do not belong in luxury cars IMO) and all other the good features/tech that's available, Genesis will force you to get the G80 Sport, which will be around $72k. The 2021 3.3t G90 the dealer had was $75k; the Genesis online configurator says a 3.3t 2022 G90 will be $77.5k. For such a minimal $5k price difference, I think it's a no brainer to go for the G90 over the G80. Unless the larger size won't fit your requirements or you really want the refreshed design right now.

There are only two issues I observed with the G90:
1) The 7 series / S class almost delete bumps and potholes in the road. The G90 doesn't have air suspension but is still very good at giving a comfortable ride. However, the suspension does still make noise when going over bumps - you don't feel them, but you can still hear them a lot more than you would in a 7/S. Maybe there was an issue with the specific car I drove? Can't remember how the G80 compared to the G90 in this aspect - I drove the G90 first, and it was obvious to me shortly after starting the G80 test drive that the G80 was much worse, so I didn't pay a lot of attention to the G80.
2) The AC is not very effective and thus needs to be turned up to higher fan speeds, creating noise. The seat ventilation is also pretty ineffective and quite loud. The G80 is even worse at both of these.
But at $75k vs $110k minimum for the German cars, I think the G90 is the obvious choice in this comparison as well.

I also drove a Lexus ES300h today. It's less than $55k fully loaded so I wasn't expecting amazing performance, and it is much worse than the Genesii - as RonL said it would be. But it's a big step above my current Honda Civic and is still very tolerable to drive. I'm probably going to buy that, keep it for 2 years until it's 'safe' to buy the refreshed G90 for the 2024 model year in fall 2023 (I don't like buying the first model year of new designs), then give the ES to my family and get the G90 at that time. Also 43/44mpg city/highway is nice - efficiency is one area where Genesis/Hyundai could use some serious improvement.

 

[SuperKing]

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[XXX]

I don’t buy new so I couldn’t recommend a new 2021 or 22 anything. Lexus does brings service to the table. Short of that, I’m no longer a Lexus fan. Even with all the warranty work I’ve had done to my 17 G90, it’s still way more car than a LS460 and better IMO to the LS500. I’m driving a 2022 G70 loaner. It’s ok, but noisy, small, and not for me. The 2021 G80 I had on loan was very similar to the G70.

 

[bkdc]

The best seat in the G80 in the driver’s seat. The best seat in the G90 in the rear right passenger seat. I have a G80, and I have a MB S550 which also has the best seat as the rear right passenger seat (executive rear seat package which reclines). Now that my in-laws have ridden in the back of the S class, they understand and appreciate the full-size luxury sedan which in many countries is basically a limousine for executives

 

[Trith72]

Those wheels are just hideous on the 2022.

 

[AVMIII]

I have both a 2011 Hyundia Genesis 4.6L and a 2017 G90 5L. I have to say that I like both. The old Genesis has 190k on it and has seen better days. but it is still a bit more sprightly than the G90. On the other hand the ride quality is much better in the G90 and not just because it is newer (30k mi). I've driven the G90 a couple of times from NJ to FL and back and it was just great. Quite, good music system, and comfortable. It is of course a big car and drives like one. In a lot of car reviews the author will write something to the effect that the big boat that he is driving feels like a much smaller car. Not so (to me) the G90. It drives like a big boat, and that's fine for me most of the time. Unless I have it in sport mode I find the shift points a little lethargic, but so be it as that is the way most folks will drive it and I do too. I've thought that when the Genesis finally croaks that I'd get something a bit smaller than the G90 to cruze the parking lots with and keep the G90 out of harms way. We shall see.