Anyone else have numerous pinhead sized pits in windshield?

[faizal]

I feel your pain. I've definitely noticed excessive pitting and had posted a little over year ago..

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?p=22981#post22981

Basically when I was getting a 2nd chip repaired the technician pointed out that my Genesis windshield was surprisingly soft compared to other windshields. =(

 

[Chief]

My 2011 is 2 weeks old and it has an uneven bumpy feeling to the touch. You can't see it but if you run your hand across the windshield it feels like small bumps. It is not smooth. I have never had this in a car before and it doesn't seem normal.

 

[STREETS]

Chief-how doe your wipers work? Sounds like a dealer visit is overdue. See what they say about all the posts on excessive pitting. I replaced mine due to stone impact, but perhaps there is a TSB

 

[Chief]

Chief-how doe your wipers work? Sounds like a dealer visit is overdue. See what they say about all the posts on excessive pitting. I replaced mine due to stone impact, but perhaps there is a TSB

Wipers work ok. You can't see the pits/bumps. You can feel them. Back glass feels smooth.

 

[waveman]

Wipers work ok. You can't see the pits/bumps. You can feel them. Back glass feels smooth.

I've begun to notice these too. They're especially noticeable when I'm driving toward a bright light, but now that I know they're there, I see them at other times as well. As Chief said, you can feel them when you run your finger over the glass. I don't remember these pits/bumps being there when I picked up my car, though they would have been easy to overlook. I have less than 3k on the car, so this seems way premature.

 

[STREETS]

I had my windshield replaced after a rock impact and the PPG replacement pits just the same. Glass is glass. Sand , road debris all contribute to pitting. Driving into the sun will reveal the imperfections - with any windshield.

 

[homeofstone]

Washed and waxed my Genesis yesterday. My windshield looks good after 18000 miles and most of it on Interstate around Atlanta and Athens GA.

 

[HunDan]

I have a 2010 Genesis sedan. I was driving it last week when I noticed alot of pitting directly in front of me, the drivers field of view. I noticed it probably 3 to 4 weeks after I had purchased it in Oct of 2009. I guess I should have said something earlier but I didn't. I think I really noticed more because of the sun being so low in the sky, and the time of year. I took it to my local Hyundai dealership, and asked one of the guys who writes up the servicing papers as you enter the garage. He told me that Hyundai probably wouldnt do anything about this problem. I then talked to the Service Manager. He asked me how many miles on my car, where I do most of my driving, when had I first noticed the pitting. I answered all his questions, and I noticed him pacing around my car especially the front looking for chips and dings I assume. Well he couldnt find any . My car is basically spottless, no nicks no dings, nothing. I keep it parked in a carport and haaardley ever take it on the freeway, and never ever park in a lot with other cars. The Ser Mgr told me that once a month a rep from Hyundai Motor corp visits that dealership. Well guess what, he was there that day. He looked over my car and suggested I have someone professionally polish the windshield and see if the nicks come out. He also said that if that didnt work they'd replace the window
I returned four days later and spoke with the Ser Mgr and the glass polisher, who said that he couldn't do anything to make it better. Once he said that the Ser Mgr asked me what I wanted to do. I replied I want a new wind shield.. Well guess who has a new windshield. I forgot to add that I only have 9400 mi on my car.
It is whats called a "one time goodwill" replacement. It was not a warranty item per say.
Id just like to Thank Hyundai Motor Corp for such a wonderful gesture.
There are some nice people working for Hyundai. What great service

 

[homeofstone]

42,000 miles no unusual pitting. just normal highway pitting from sand etc As a side comment, the front of the car has held up better than our 2004 Acura as far as pits and rock dings.

 

[tompass]

I have just noticed a good number of small circular patterns about size of a nail head throughout my front windshield. I thought I had a tiny stone hit but when I pulled into the garage and used a flashlight on an angle, these numerous small blemishes can be easily seen. The one pattern in particular does appear to be a tiny pit. Anyone else observed a similar pattern in windshield?

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[tonygxp]

My Genesis (from new) had windshield wiper "fine" scratches in it. it drove me nuts. I barely use windshield wipers, clean my windshields 3-5x a week with Stoners rain repellent cleaner. With the Hyundai, in the sun you could see the scratches which coincided with the wiping motion (two 1/4 circles). i used my small griot's Da with glass polish and it did nothing. you couldn't feel the scratches but you could see them. I probably could've paid $200 to have the windshield compounded professionally but i got rid of it before i had the chance.

My Hyundai's windshield was garbage, very unimpressive.

 

[tompass]

Must be extremely soft glass if there is such a thing.

 

[homeofstone]

Yep, those that own Mercedes, Acura, BMW, Lexus, Ford etc. ... you get my piont. Here is a comment from BMW forum

" People have been complaining of soft glass on BMW windshields for a while now. My '08 335i was awful, never had to have it replaced though. I've already noticed many small pits on my F10 535i with 5000 miles on it. I do a good bit of highway driving, but even small hits by sand and other normal items is enough to create the pitting. I don't recall my '05 330i having as bad a problem.

From Mercedes Forum-
"This is indeed an interesting topic. The windscreen on every Benz I've owned (5) has suffered multiple chips and has developed a sandblasted look pretty early on.

My current 350 at 36K is no exception already with two chips and has started to develop the noticeably sanded texture. My last C went through two windscreens over the 120K I drove it due to chips, both replaced by the dealer with I assume MB glass. I do have a windscreen rider on the insurance on all my vehicles and I have more than gotten my premium back over the years. Granted my driving is 90%+ highway so I’m sure that is a major factor but I would be curious to hear about other people’s experiences.
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[JDC]

OK, I guess I should have rewritten the thread title to say "Anyone else have numerous pinhead sized pits in the windshield that seem to have appeared extremely early; in fact earlier than a Yugo in the Sonoran desert?"

I know dust and all can cause pits. What I'm saying is that the pit level on my windshield is more indicative of a car with 100,000+ miles, not 10,000. I worked in Kuwait for 2 years. I purchased a new Daewoo Lanos (el cheapo) over there. In an area with constant dust storms and sand everywhere, even its windshield looked better after a year.

I agree, the pin size holes appear very early in this vehicle. I wrote up on this some time back. I still think this glass is 'too soft'. I did not have this issue with my LS400 which I had for 10 years, nor for my FJ55 land cruiser I had for 20 years, both in living in the desert with the occasional wind strom... but in a few short thousand miles is very noticible on the Genesis, now lust city life and highway driving. Me thinks the material is just too soft.

 

[mcginnpm]

I have to agree with msitter..."glass is glass". Yes, there are probably some minor variations in the composition, but in the end I'm willing to bet that they're all pretty darned close in hardness.

Glass has a hardness of about 6 on the Mohs Hardness Scale (the mineral hardenss scale, where talc has a hardness of 1 and diamond has a hardness of 10). Anything with a Mohs hardness higher than glass can scratch glass. And anything lower won't.

There are plenty of minerals in the aggregate that makes up asphalt and concrete which have a Mohs hardness greater than 6, so if particles are being kicked up off the road surface and hitting your windshield, it's gonna get scratched and pitted.

Speed is the other factor. If you double the speed of an object, you quadruple it's energy. A tiny pebble or grain hitting your windshield at 70mph has twice the speed and FOUR times the energy of one doing 35mph.

Some things to think about: Do you do more highway (fast) driving than in-town (slow) driving? Do you tend to drive close behind other vehicles, or in lots of heavy traffic, or in high wind areas (more stuff getting kicked up onto your windshield)? Are the roads you regularly travel constructed with aggregate that has Mohs hardness greater than glass? If so, then you're windshield is gonna get scratched and pitted more than someone who doesn't do these things.

 

[tompass]

Went to glass shop today for opinion and tech told me that it was a nick and no need for repair. Stated that it would not get any worse and any repair attempt would only make it worse.