Bird droppings

[NurburggreenG70]

I have been pretty anal about keeping the car clean, ive put upward of 4 layers of mothers synthetic wax (which apparently is a sealent, in lieu of finally finding some liquid glass again), and multiple layers of carnuba, and spray canuba detail wax over the last few weeks.... Its like a mirror.. but than i saw some bird shite on the rear door, must have baked on all day at work, and i cannot get the residue out, its like a milky haze thats smoothe and i tried soaking, cleaning, glym glass cleaner (which said its cool for removing stuff on paint) and buffing out... Nothing has worked, anyone have luck with goof off? Any ideas?

 

[Tonezorz]

If you really have who knows how many layers of protection on the car, it's likely the poop just damaged those, and it should fade as the rest of the wax/sealants fade off.

If however it wasn't quite as protected as you thought, and it baked on longer than you thought, it's possible it etched into the clear coat.

I would start with a standard car wash, add some dawn dish soap to help break down the waxes. If that doesn't start to fade it, try a diluted mixture of isopropyl.

Take a clear photo and post what it looks like for a better guess. Also you could post to / read up at the auto detailing reddit. (/r/autodetailing)

Here is an example of etching:

https://imgur.com/oUZBwwm

 

[NurburggreenG70]

If you really have who knows how many layers of protection on the car, it's likely the poop just damaged those, and it should fade as the rest of the wax/sealants fade off.

If however it wasn't quite as protected as you thought, and it baked on longer than you thought, it's possible it etched into the clear coat.

I would start with a standard car wash, add some dawn dish soap to help break down the waxes. If that doesn't start to fade it, try a diluted mixture of isopropyl.

Take a clear photo and post what it looks like for a better guess. Also you could post to / read up at the auto detailing reddit. (/r/autodetailing)

Here is an example of etching:

https://imgur.com/oUZBwwm

Thanks for the quick reply!
I will try and post a pic, but it looks like etching .
Anyone have any product ideas comparable to liquid glass? Not impressed with the mothers synth wax so far, with LG-100 this stuff just wiped off.

 

[NurburggreenG70]

Any experience with sap or bird droppings on ceramic coatings?

 

[kennyw73]

I did ceramic coating for my G70 and it worked great so far. Had a few bird drop but they just slide off the car and I just water sprayed to clean.

They say it will last for 3-4 years depends on how you clean - PH neutral soap and microfibre cloth to clean is the most ideal way to clean and maintain.

 

[NurburggreenG70]

I did ceramic coating for my G70 and it worked great so far. Had a few bird drop but they just slide off the car and I just water sprayed to clean.

They say it will last for 3-4 years depends on how you clean - PH neutral soap and microfibre cloth to clean is the most ideal way to clean and maintain.

U did it yourself or you had it professionally?

 

[kennyw73]

U did it yourself or you had it professionally?

Professionally. Dropped car off for 2 days

 

[NurburggreenG70]

Professionally. Dropped car off for 2 days

Yikes. Ive been contemplating doing it at home, seems easy to apply just a butt ton of prep and down time... But ive had the same performance from easier to deal with products... That i cant buy anymore :/
My dad had a black 1985 Plymouth voyager with wood panels (i know its a super cool whip, but keep it in your pants people) but with an annual coat of LG-100 and the occasional wax that thing was beautiful, shiny and rust free for 25 yrs.. even rust spray beaded off it. I really wish someone here knew a suitable replacement, i think it got pulled off the market cuz its emulsifier ingredient was kerosene, some guy on ebay has 2 16oz cans and wants 200$ plus shipping for 1.

 

[kennyw73]

Yikes. Ive been contemplating doing it at home, seems easy to apply just a butt ton of prep and down time... But ive had the same performance from easier to deal with products... That i cant buy anymore :/
My dad had a black 1985 Plymouth voyager with wood panels (i know its a super cool whip, but keep it in your pants people) but with an annual coat of LG-100 and the occasional wax that thing was beautiful, shiny and rust free for 25 yrs.. even rust spray beaded off it. I really wish someone here knew a suitable replacement, i think it got pulled off the market cuz its emulsifier ingredient was kerosene, some guy on ebay has 2 16oz cans and wants 200$ plus shipping for 1.

I dropped it off 2 days after I picked it up the car so the prep work for the guy isn't that bad. My friend did it on his own with the Sonax one but he said it will only last a year. I don't have much time to deal with it so might as well get it done all together along with window tint.

 

[edyago]

Have you tried claybarring? Polish?

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[NurburggreenG70]

i did all that when i got her, on the crap i tried wax too, but not clay.

 

[NurburggreenG70]

Its faint but its there.

 

[Beefer]

Its faint but its there.

Your profile pic is killing me...hahahahahahahah...is that Tim Heidecker ?

 

[devellis]

I'd try Ronsonol lighter fluid or the equivalent. It's mostly naphtha (sometimes labeled as light petroleum distillate) . It's a good solvent that won't damage paint. I've used it on valuable vintage instruments with no ill effects.

The reason I recommend this is that I suspect the damage is in the wax layer, sort of like the white ring on a waxed table that a glass can leave when condensation runs down the outside of it. The wax ring is the result of water interacting with the wax. That's obviously not what is happening in this case but I suspect the bird poop may be reacting with the wax in an analogous way. The naphtha will take off the wax in the area where it's applied and, if the spot is the result of the wax reacting to the bird poop, it'll come off with the wax. In any case, it will do no harm, is non-abrasive, and won't leave a residue after it evaporates. Ronsonol is not that hard to find. Most places that sell cigarettes (like convenience stores) will carry it as well. It's cheap and good to have around for removing sticky residues from surfaces (like the goop left behind if you de-badge your car).

 

[NurburggreenG70]

Your profile pic is killing me...hahahahahahahah...is that Tim Heidecker ?

Yuuuuuuuuuup

 

[NurburggreenG70]

I'd try Ronsonol lighter fluid or the equivalent. It's mostly naphtha (sometimes labeled as light petroleum distillate) . It's a good solvent that won't damage paint. I've used it on valuable vintage instruments with no ill effects.

The reason I recommend this is that I suspect the damage is in the wax layer, sort of like the white ring on a waxed table that a glass can leave when condensation runs down the outside of it. The wax ring is the result of water interacting with the wax. That's obviously not what is happening in this case but I suspect the bird poop may be reacting with the wax in an analogous way. The naphtha will take off the wax in the area where it's applied and, if the spot is the result of the wax reacting to the bird poop, it'll come off with the wax. In any case, it will do no harm, is non-abrasive, and won't leave a residue after it evaporates. Ronsonol is not that hard to find. Most places that sell cigarettes (like convenience stores) will carry it as well. It's cheap and good to have around for removing sticky residues from surfaces (like the goop left behind if you de-badge your car).

Cool, thanks ill look for it

 

[cheez]

Birds go after clean cars to shit on. They don't like dirty cars I don't know why...

The problem is that the bird's shit has acid and can burn through the clear coat and dissolve your paint... Bird's shit is most lethal weapon found on earth today. Must act quickly before the acid eats way into the paint.

You gotta get rubbing compound and apply on the affected area. Get your rotary buffer out and put on medium-cut polishing pad. Apply a few applications. If that doesn't quite work move up to heavy cut polishing pad and apply rubbing compound again and buff off. Then get a car polish and polish it with the polisher. And finally dress it with car wax. Apply 3 or 4 layers of wax.

You gotta get a car cover to protect from bird shit. Or park far away from the trees..

Good luck

 

[Alfer]

Speaking of bird shit.

Last night it was perfect cool weather so me and kiddos went out for a drive, sunroof and windows open. So we pull up to a red light and I sorta notice the birds are flocking to the telephone wires but don't think much of it until my daughter says "DAD!! Close the sunroof!!" Sure enough in the span of 30 seconds, I got bombed by bird shit. Narrowly missing getting it inside the car. LOL

I got home and found at least a dozen bombs splattered on the car. I washed them all off best I could.

Ugh!

 

[Roc 5.0]

Speaking of bird shit.

Last night it was perfect cool weather so me and kiddos went out for a drive, sunroof and windows open. So we pull up to a red light and I sorta notice the birds are flocking to the telephone wires but don't think much of it until my daughter says "DAD!! Close the sunroof!!" Sure enough in the span of 30 seconds, I got bombed by bird shit. Narrowly missing getting it inside the car. LOL

I got home and found at least a dozen bombs splattered on the car. I washed them all off best I could.

Ugh!

 

[Roc 5.0]

Both Kia and Hyundia never faired as well with their clear coat vs bird droppings. Got to have on plenty of wax and get the droppings ASAP or will burn through the clear coat. Been a noted problem for years.