Burger Motorsports JB4 high performance tuner for Genesis vehicles

[Samy]

How much did they cost and how long did it take to receive them?

Total: 11 days. It took 6 days to process and 5 days to ship and to arrive. Just got them today.

I paid $76 and the shipping was $18.44 to Miami.

 

[NLJ]

I see. I asked because Burger Motorsports recommend the Densos for use with the JB4.

Yeah cause the Denso is ultra cheap and a couple of heat ranges colder than the stock V6 plugs. So by default already safe for the JB4. The HKS is just a much sturdier plug but probably overkill anyway.
For the 2.0T, the HKS and NGK are the only colder option. The rest are all stock heat range.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Total: 11 days. It took 6 days to process and 5 days to ship and to arrive. Just got them today.

I paid $76 and the shipping was $18.44 to Miami.

Well, not the biggest deal, but buying the Densos from here would have cost you under $50 including shipping and you'd have had them in one day. I'm just two hours north of you. But, really, no big deal. HKS are great spark plugs...

 

[NLJ]

Well, not the biggest deal, but buying the Densos from here would have cost you under $50 including shipping and you'd have had them in one day. I'm just two hours north of you. But, really, no big deal. HKS are great spark plugs...

The Denso won't fit. He has the 2.0T.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

The Denso won't fit. He has the 2.0T.

@Terry @ BMS, can you verify this to be the case? I just went over this with Ando for the Stinger's 2.0T and they apparently fit. Do they not fit for the G70?

 

[NLJ]

@Terry @ BMS, can you verify this to be the case? I just went over this with Ando for the Stinger's 2.0T and they apparently fit. Do they not fit for the G70?

2.0T specs are 12x26.5x16
3.3T is 14x26.5x16

BMS even sells 2 different spark plug re-gapping tools cause they are different.
There might be a Denso for the 2.0T but none in Heat Range of 9 that I could find.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

2.0T specs are 12x26.5x16
3.3T is 14x26.5x16

BMS even sells 2 different spark plug re-gapping tools cause they are different.
There might be a Denso for the 2.0T but none in Heat Range of 9 that I could find.

Do you know if there's a difference between the Stinger 2.0T and G70 2.0T? I could have sworn I've seen Stinger 2.0T owners using the Densos. Maybe I'm mistaken...

 

[NLJ]

Do you know if there's a difference between the Stinger 2.0T and G70 2.0T? I could have sworn I've seen Stinger 2.0T owners using the Densos. Maybe I'm mistaken...

All the 2.0T are the same. G70, Stinger, Veloster N, i30N, Sonata, Optima. The Optima and Sonata guys were using the Evo X NGK plugs back then.
The Stinger and G70 NGK stock plugs are HR8 and are slightly special since the PN doesn't correspond to NGKs catalog whereas the older variants of this engine ran HR6 and HR7.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Will THESE HKS M45XL plugs work for the 2.0T?

 

[NLJ]

Will THESE HKS M45XL plugs work for the 2.0T?

It is this one: HKS 50003-M45XL M-Series Super Fire Racing Spark Plug Amazon.com: HKS 50003-M45XL M-Series Super Fire Racing Spark Plug: Automotive

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[NLJ]

The other option for the 2.0T is the NGK R2556G-9 which are pricier: NGK - Racing Spark Plugs - R2556

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Thank you very much, @NLJ!

 

[NLJ]

Thank you very much, @NLJ!

You're welcome. The HKS 50003-M40XL is also an option but it is the same Heat Range as the stock plugs.

 

[Throat Yogurt]

Changing the subject a bit, it really grinds my gears that there are no published power figures for the JB4 on the G70 (or Stinger) 2.0T. No dyno plots, no power increase claims, nothing. It's clear that the JB4 is being marketed to the 3.3T and the 2.0 is just an afterthought.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Changing the subject a bit, it really grinds my gears that there are no published power figures for the JB4 on the G70 (or Stinger) 2.0T. No dyno plots, no power increase claims, nothing. It's clear that the JB4 is being marketed to the 3.3T and the 2.0 is just an afterthought.

I'm sure it would have been the other way around if everyone bought the 2.0T Stinger - but the opposite happened - and that's where the attention is because of that. At least that's my guess.

 

[NLJ]

Changing the subject a bit, it really grinds my gears that there are no published power figures for the JB4 on the G70 (or Stinger) 2.0T. No dyno plots, no power increase claims, nothing. It's clear that the JB4 is being marketed to the 3.3T and the 2.0 is just an afterthought.

The closest we have is numbers from the Veloster N. They have a slightly bigger turbo but the same engine. So whatever number they get, we will be around the ballpark just a little lower. But we will be able to put the power down better than them. However they are lighter.

Engine - 300WHP Finally Achieved with Only an Intake & JB4 (w/i30N ECU settings)

Okay first off let me say in advance that it is TECHNICALLY 1whp short BUT! Still a huge deal I think as no other piggyback, module or flash so far has reached these kinds of numbers (of course correct me if I'm wrong). @RPM8300 and I have been working on a customized map for the JB4 for our...

n-cars.net

 

[Throat Yogurt]

I'm sure it would have been the other way around if everyone bought the 2.0T Stinger - but the opposite happened - and that's where the attention is because of that. At least that's my guess.

But this product has been out (at least for the Stinger) for over a year...with NO information? Obviously they had to design it for the 2.0T...does that mean they didn't do any testing? Or does it mean that they did, but the gains are not good?

 

[Throat Yogurt]

The closest we have is numbers from the Veloster N. They have a slightly bigger turbo but the same engine. So whatever number they get, we will be around the ballpark just a little lower. But we will be able to put the power down better than them. However they are lighter.

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I saw your posting about this, but it's not the same...a different turbo is going to make way different numbers.

I would love to buy the JB4...they have a great reputation and have solid results on other cars, but I can't give my money to a tuning company without even a *claim* of power increase! I mean come on!

 

[NLJ]

But this product has been out (at least for the Stinger) for over a year...with NO information? Obviously they had to design it for the 2.0T...does that mean they didn't do any testing? Or does it mean that they did, but the gains are not good?

There was a Stinger guy who was testing it out for them and I don't recall exactly if his car was totalled or something else happened and he replaced it with a 3.3t instead.
Terry mentioned to me that the fuel wires were optional for the 2.0T and that it was never dynoed so the gains are not quantifiable.
But you can check the logs to see the ECU PSI and the extra the JB4 adds.
Conservative numbers are 1psi = 10whp.

 

[Throat Yogurt]

There was a Stinger guy who was testing it out for them and I don't recall exactly if his car was totalled or something else happened and he replaced it with a 3.3t instead.

I spoke to that guy (forget his name) in person at a cars and coffee. He had a JB4 on his Stinger 2.and it was totalled. He said he loved it, it added a lot of power, but he never put it on a dyno to quantify the gains.

Terry mentioned to me that the fuel wires were optional for the 2.0T and that it was never dynoed so the gains are not quantifiable.
But you can check the logs to see the ECU PSI and the extra the JB4 adds.
Conservative numbers are 1psi = 10whp.

Again, this is good info and thank you for providing it, but it's not a substitute for actual numbers.