Buying Used 5.0 Ultimate, tips?

[inmanlanier]

All dealers have their markets of warrantee providers. That's a huge business in the car industry. Do your research on the company first, however. Many are good, many are bad.

 

[R5R]

All dealers have their markets of warrantee providers. That's a huge business in the car industry. Do your research on the company first, however. Many are good, many are bad.

Yeah this is Hyundai's own warranty for new, cpo, and used cars in Canada. Covers literally everything that i researched that would go wrong.

 

[analbumcover]

Might i suggest a GS350 AWD. I still have one but don't drive it anymore and loved it. Fully loaded, the Lexus is just as good is most places with better materials and better seats but is missing some of the tech (lane keep, android auto, etc). Also the lexus V6 sounds amazing in the GS, there's a sound tube that come off the intake exclusively to direct intake and engine sounds into the drivers seat. If you take it off the car is quieter but with in in place it makes an awesome sound when its on cam (~3500rpm)

 

[inmanlanier]

and back to the Genesis topic...

R5R, if you've done your research, then sounds like you have a winner there. My warranty was around $2160 US for 8 additional years and 120000 total miles (I mispoke above -just checked) as a point of reference. Mine had $18,450 miles on it in March of 2018 when purchased.

 

[rroyce46]

@ R5R "At this point my backup plan is a 2018 Hyundai Elantra GT Turbo Ultimate for (cad)$24,000 with 22,000km. Lol

When I bought my 2016 AWD 3.8 luxury last January I had originally gone in to test drive an Elantra Sport & GT Ultimate. I had a 2014 Kia Forte Koup Turbo 1.6 to trade.
When I was leaving the Dealership I said the Elantras were nice but not enough of an upgrade from my Kia to justfy the $$. "If you ever get a used Genesis call me."
My 2016 with 10900 KMs came in the next day & I did a deal for 31000 or 20300 difference tax included. Never regretted the deal & have Factory warranty to August 2021.
I have since driven the V8 & I prefer the handling & fuel economy of the V6. Just my 2c worth.

 

[R5R]

@ R5R "At this point my backup plan is a 2018 Hyundai Elantra GT Turbo Ultimate for (cad)$24,000 with 22,000km. Lol

When I bought my 2016 AWD 3.8 luxury last January I had originally gone in to test drive an Elantra Sport & GT Ultimate. I had a 2014 Kia Forte Koup Turbo 1.6 to trade.
When I was leaving the Dealership I said the Elantras were nice but not enough of an upgrade from my Kia to justfy the $$. "If you ever get a used Genesis call me."
My 2016 with 10900 KMs came in the next day & I did a deal for 31000 or 20300 difference tax included. Never regretted the deal & have Factory warranty to August 2021.
I have since driven the V8 & I prefer the handling & fuel economy of the V6. Just my 2c worth.

How has the 2016 been reliability wise? I so damn worried about the sunroof in the car that im going to be scared opening it lol

 

[EdP]

How has the 2016 been reliability wise? I so damn worried about the sunroof in the car that im going to be scared opening it lol

My 2015 was opened once. My 2018 has not been opened yet. I don't worry about the problems, but I never use it.

 

[rroyce46]

When I first bought it sunroof needed to be lubricated & selling Dealer took care of it. Also had USB Port replaced due to intermittent IPOD playback. No other issues with this car since.
Now @ 23000 Kilometers & no regrets.
Let us know if you go ahead & what you pay for extended Hyundai warranty.Good Luck.

 

[R5R]

Thanks everyone for the info! Gonna figure out what I'm getting by Friday, big purchase, since its also my first car lol

 

[jimmy buoy]

I wouldn't let the sunroof issue worry you too much. I use mine at least 20x/yr and have never had an issue with its operation. The only thing I've ever done with it is use some special rubber cleaner on all the joints when its open. It's one of the features that really wows back seat passengers since I usually leave the shade open on all but the coldest weather. It really opens up the interior. The odd little rattle on a rough road isn't going to make me run to the dealer.

When I was looking at trading my 2012 5.0 Rspec for a 2015 it was due to the design change, but mostly for the AWD system. I had considered getting an end of year deal on a left over 15 V6, but they were all about the same price or more than the 5.0s. My first Genesis was a 2009 6cyl tech. Nice, but it always bothered me when someone would ask "does that have the V8?" nope. So I went the the 5.0 for the next Genesis and never had the same feeling that I was missing something.

Either car is a win so best of luck with your decision!

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[R5R]

I wouldn't let the sunroof issue worry you too much. I use mine at least 20x/yr and have never had an issue with its operation. The only thing I've ever done with it is use some special rubber cleaner on all the joints when its open. It's one of the features that really wows back seat passengers since I usually leave the shade open on all but the coldest weather. It really opens up the interior. The odd little rattle on a rough road isn't going to make me run to the dealer.

When I was looking at trading my 2012 5.0 Rspec for a 2015 it was due to the design change, but mostly for the AWD system. I had considered getting an end of year deal on a left over 15 V6, but they were all about the same price or more than the 5.0s. My first Genesis was a 2009 6cyl tech. Nice, but it always bothered me when someone would ask "does that have the V8?" nope. So I went the the 5.0 for the next Genesis and never had the same feeling that I was missing something.

Either car is a win so best of luck with your decision!

Thanks, good to know that not everyone has the sunroof issue, might need to ask you about details on how to clean the joints

 

[ThoughtfulOne]

The main issue I have had with the sunroof is the vibrations at highway speed, but it's not that bad compared to wind noise. The car is fairly quiet compared to most at highway speed in this class.

Fuel economy on these cars leaves much to be desired - I kind of wish they offered a 5.0L hybrid option. City driving is terrible

The sunroof has just started to rattle a bit while closed when the temps drop to near freezing. Not always, but sometimes. It has always operated properly. The natural light and airy feeling the roof provides makes up for a bit of rattle in my opinion.

but highway I've gotten up to 8.7L/100 km at 114 km/h.

These cars don't seem to be very expensive to insure.

One drawback is the lower profile tires tend to be more vulnerable to potholes. Replacement is costly, although I got the stock 275 tires in the rear at $200 CAD + tax a pop, so maybe not terrible. The rear tires tend to go a lot faster and you cannot rotate them front to back since they are staggered.


The Lexus GS

I checked on the GS 350 - apparently (at least where I live in Ontario), it costs a lot more to insure the GS 350; so it actually came out to a savings even though the GS would use less fuel. The GS has its drawbacks too - the infotainment UI is a lot worse (although side by side the Mark Levinson audio is a bit better the Lexicon on the audio system) and I found it louder on the highway.

I would advise getting an RWD GS450H for Canada, except for maybe BC residents.

The GS handles better, but the Genesis rides more comfortably and is a larger car.

Maintenance may very well favor the Genesis since you can take them to Hyundai dealers. The other is that the F Sport GS has very costly brake rotor replacement costs.

The F Sport too has lower profile tires.

It looks like cost to own/run is important to you. If so, you should consider the 3.8 - 95% of the time the 5.0 isnt needed. It's better on gas, easier to work on (more room) and has cheaper tires. (18" vs 19"+width).

Oil changes are annoying (not difficult) if you have to do it from underneath - 2 huge aero panels block off the underside. 25k seems like a good deal but condition of the car is important.

You could always go with all 4 tires as 245 - 40 - 19 - I'm thinking about going with all 4 tires as 19 x 9.0 inch wheels and probably something that size for next time I swap my tires.

I agree though that overall cost to own is lower on the 3.8L and possibly the 3.3T, although the 3.3T is somewhere in between and the risk of a turbo failure is always possible.

The other advantage of the 3.8L is that regular fuel is recommended. Premium for the 5.0L.

 

[BlancaGenny]

Hi,

So I'm about to purchase a 2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 Ultimate (with HTRAC, from the Canadian market) and I had a few questions.

1. Is there anything I should be on the lookout for as far as issues with the 2015s? I saw that there's sunroof not closing issues.

2. Does anyone here do their own oil changes, new brakes, and tire changes? Is it a pain on this car (its my first personally owned car)?

3. Is $34,000 (US$25,000) with 29,000km (18,019 miles) a good deal?

4. I heard that there's 3 keys for this car, 2 normal keys and 1 "card", is that true?

5. Has anyone had to pay any huge maintenance costs on their car yet? (Kinda scared because this is a luxury car, but then i heard its cheap to maintain because its Hyundai)

6. Any advice in general before buying?


Thanks so much for the info and happy holidays!

1. 15’s have a few quirks. There isa backup camera wire that is a bit too short and may short from excessive use of the trunk. The head unit is only covered for 3/36k instead of the 5/60k. Mine would cut out intermittently on XM and I would have to turn the car off and back on for it to be normal. I’ve sinced replaced it. The sunroof like you mentioned.

2. If it is still under the powertrain warranty, which it seems that way from the year and miles, have the dealership do it. They will find every reason to void a warranty so they can make an extra buck. That’s across all manufacturers. I haven’t done one myself but have watched tutorials. Doesn’t seem harder than our average car, just might take a bit longer because of the plastic pins with the undershields and an oil filter cover.

3. $25k seems like a good deal. I paid $26k for my 2015 at the beginning of 2018. I have the sig/tech package, not the ultimate. If they have it priced well, check and push every button on that car to make sure they all work. Ask for service records, if applicable.

4. I have two keys since mine was certified (part of the certified warranty). I don’t have a card. Might be an Ultimate thing. I have heard of the card though.

5. This car is not cheap to repair. They are foreign parts which are expensive to ship/manufacture. A refurbished head unit will cost you $2400, the screen that covers the nav screen is $3000 new. Under warranty, your fine. Extended coverages and certified cars are the way to go.

6. If you can and if finances allow, buy the newest one you can. In 2016, they pushed the electronic warranty out to 5/60k like everything else. Please, please, please buy certified. It’ll give you piece of mind. Drive the car in different situations; city, highway, hit a pothole to see if anything rattles, run the a/c to see if the extra loadbrings down the idle which will let you know about the battery/alternator, push every button.

I’m not trying to scare you out of the car. It’s a great car and it’s one of the best sedans I’ve ever owned, hold the SRT8 for obvious reasons. These are all suggestions and are based off of my personal experiences. Your experience may be different from mine. Good luck on the car shopping.