Conti DWS vs. Michelin Pilot

[Alaskaman]

Pulling the trigger in the next day or two.

Value your opinions.

 

[homeofstone]

Add Brigestone Turanza Serenity Plus to your list and maybe the General GMax. Check tirerack.com for reviews etc. Also, MotorTrend just tested the Bridgestone among others. They are all very good tires.

 

[Mgrig]

I just put a set of Kumho ASX on my 2009 Genesis, so far so good. Discount Tire had them on sale for $105 per tire, including shipping.
Previously had the Dunlap, then tried Falken, got about 30K out of each

 

[Alaskaman]

Discount Tires is having a $100.00 of any set of 4 today in SoCal.

 

[silverado]

i really like my dws's. after 10,000 miles no complaints.

 

[Ernie3647]

i really like my dws's. after 10,000 miles no complaints.

I second that !

 

[KCross]

I've had both the DWS & Michelin Pilots on my 2010 4.6.

At 32K went from the Dunlops that came on the car to DWS tires. Car immediately started "drifting" to the right. After multiple attempts at fixing the problem (including swapping 2 of the DWS with new tires) we gave up and put on Michelin Pilots. Problem when away. I can only guess that we had a defective set (6) of tires.

With that said, the Pilots are quieter then the DWS tires. I can't speak of the all weather performance since I have not yet used them in anything worse then heavy rain where they handled great.

 

[Gunkk]

Alaskaman: Before buying, I recommend that you read this thread.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

Pulling the trigger in the next day or two.

Value your opinions.

You didn't say anything about your preferences. Do you want performance (wet/dry, braking, handling), low noise, smooth or soft ride, long life, fuel economy, etc.? What are your top priorities in your car and tire?

 

[Alaskaman]

Thanks for the replies. I went down to Discount Tires here near San Diego and talked with them. They said for the money the Conti is superior and mentioned something about the Pilot having sidewall issues. He promoted the Yokahama speed rated tire. After doing a little more research I selected the Conti DWS. They credited $72. for each Pirelli Net Zero as my wife had only gotten 20k on the 50k warranty. Purchased the tire protection plan for $24. per tire. Subtract the $100. Socal rebate and OTD for $613.and change.

First impressions solid feel, better road feel that the Pirelli which is surprising. It's a fast tire (we have them on the Miata as well). Took it up to 90 without a shimmy. She likes it too, and typically puts the pedal down more than I.

Thanks for the opinions and insights.

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[Stoofpilot]

We got rid of the DWS and put the General GMax on. They are a ultra high perform all season. They are great. The Senrenity is not a ultra high performance tire.

 

[Mark_888]

We got rid of the DWS and put the General GMax on. They are a ultra high perform all season. They are great.

Interesting, especially since General Tire is owned by Continental Tire Co.

 

[homeofstone]

We got rid of the DWS and put the General GMax on. They are a ultra high perform all season. They are great. The Senrenity is not a ultra high performance tire.

There is no industry standard as to what performance category tire makers put their tires in. The speed rating and actual test track performance is a more accurate way to compare tires. There are w rated grand touring tires that have better grip and response than some performance tires. Remember the old saying "let the buyer beware". For tire companies its about product placement, marketing and profit

 

[snork]

There is no industry standard as to what performance category tire makers put their tires in. The speed rating and actual test track performance is a more accurate way to compare tires. There are w rated grand touring tires that have better grip and response than some performance tires. Remember the old saying "let the buyer beware". For tire companies its about product placement, marketing and profit

+1 The UTQG ratings are also only comparable between individual brands as well. UTQG ratings are calculated on a "baseline", but that baseline is whatever the individual manufacturer wants it to be. They are generally roughly the same, but not necessarily. So a 400 rating on Goodyears may not match a 400 rating on Michelin.

 

[rockymax]

I had an '09 Cadillac CTS prior to buying my R-Spec that came with Michelin Pilots as standard equipment. I traded the car with 56,000 miles and still had 10,000+ miles left on tread. I had no problems or complaints with the tires. I am not as fond of the Conti tires as they are apparently the cause of a slight pull right problem with my Genesis.

 

[Stoofpilot]

Mark, yes, Continental does own General yet the tires are totally different. The DWS pulled right dramatically after alignment. Swapped tires side to side. Pull still went right. Put the GMax on and the drift stopped, tracked true and gave a more responsive steering feel. The GMax is not for someone looking for a cushy ride but great for someone looking for a planted to the road feeling.