Cruise Control - Smart or Not? Has anyone mastered it?

[deilenberger]

The info that @The Genesis Genie has in his video, and subsequently some in depth reading of the manual, starting at section 7-77, let me use it extensively on a trip encompassing highways and smaller urban roads, and then Princeton University's campus on what looked like footpaths (but were just wide enough for cars)...

It works, and I sort of got it to do everything I wanted it to without too many missteps. It is not as intuitive to use as the European implementations of adaptive cruise control, and lane-keep assist (I got to try out the latest Porsche offering for 2024 for 10 days in a loaner Cayenne..) but I anticipate that with further intensive use it will become second-nature.

Again - thanks to The Genesis Genie - a great job on the video of explaining what the manuals don't explain very well (I think they get bogged down with lawyer induced warnings - sometimes the warning is longer than the function description.)

 

[srobak]

Yeah - I think it was a lot better before. At least it was more intuitive when all it did was distance keeping and lane-keep ASSIST. Adding in full-on auto steer, and navigation based steering and lane changing I think overly complicated it. Give me basic old distance keeping and I am quite happy. I only ever used LKA if I was just a bit tired, it was really late at night, or I was trying to eat a sammich with one hand.

 

[steveinarizona]

I have a 2024 and I use the adaptive cruise all the time. I set the distance once. The system uses this as the default. I have lane keep and steering assist on. I turn on cruise, set my speed and bobs your uncle. If a car cuts in front or is slower than my set speed the car slows to maintain my set distance. I signal a lane change, the car moves to the new lane and accelerates to my set speed. I get an alert after about two minutes to make sure my hands on the steering wheel. Just give it a tug and on we go. Love it, great for long hauls.

I have had similar experience with my 2023 GV60P with one exception: I only have HDA, not HDA2, so I don't have the automatic lane change. Works fine for me on the highway. I have had adaptive cruise control for many years on prior BMWs and my current version works better (of course it is newer so I am not comparing old BMW systems with new Genesis systems), if only because the Genesis version remembers my distance setting (closest) when I restart the car. That was a constant irritant to me on the BMWs.

 

[srobak]

That was a constant irritant to me on the BMWs.

I agree with you... my G80 did that, my Highlander does do that currently, and I know the 1st gen G90 also do that. That being said - I believe it resetting is actually implemented as a safety feature - which I can appreciate to a degree. Back then it was a new feature - where as these days it is pretty commonplace.

 

[FastCars]

So none of this really answers the question of is there a way to just make this work like good, old fashioned CC (set the speed/toggle up & down as desired/I decide how close to the lead car is safe) ??

 

[FJB]

I push the button. I cruise. Pretty simple.

 

[srobak]

So none of this really answers the question of is there a way to just make this work like good, old fashioned CC (set the speed/toggle up & down as desired/I decide how close to the lead car is safe) ??

Yes - at least on the old one. It was in the menus. I'm sure it is still there. That being said - you can select from a range of distances with smart cruise. On the old ones it was 1, 2 or 3 seconds - and I think the new ones do 1-4. Obviously as the speed goes up - the distance increases. When I am alone and on the highway at speed I do 1 second, 2 if it was raining. In bumper to bumper - or with passengers - I set it to 2. It works impressively well - both on the Genesis and the Highlander (as well as the Palisade and EV9).

 

[steveinarizona]

Yes - at least on the old one. It was in the menus. I'm sure it is still there. That being said - you can select from a range of distances with smart cruise. On the old ones it was 1, 2 or 3 seconds - and I think the new ones do 1-4. Obviously as the speed goes up - the distance increases. When I am alone and on the highway at speed I do 1 second, 2 if it was raining. In bumper to bumper - or with passengers - I set it to 2. It works impressively well - both on the Genesis and the Highlander (as well as the Palisade and EV9).

I don't think you understand his question. He wants a non adaptive cruise control. The kind where he has to manually slow the car down if the car in front of him slows down, etc.

Some cars with adaptive cruise control have an option to switch back to the old, non adaptive, kind. I don't believe that Genesis has that option.

 

[FastCars]

Yes - at least on the old one. It was in the menus. I'm sure it is still there. That being said - you can select from a range of distances with smart cruise. On the old ones it was 1, 2 or 3 seconds - and I think the new ones do 1-4. Obviously as the speed goes up - the distance increases. When I am alone and on the highway at speed I do 1 second, 2 if it was raining. In bumper to bumper - or with passengers - I set it to 2. It works impressively well - both on the Genesis and the Highlander (as well as the Palisade and EV9).

The problem around here is if you have more than a few car lengths between vehicles other drivers take it as a challenge & pop in between. That forces the ACC to 'brake' to recreate it's preset gap, after a short while it gets to be super annoying. Also annoying if you get behind a clown that keeps varying their speed.

 

[srobak]

(EDIT: Replying to steveinaz) No - I do, and that is why I replied as I did in the first sentence. The option to turn it into a dumb cruise was there in the earlier genesis models. It was in the menus - and I am sure it is still there.

I was simply following it up explaining a bit about the smart cruise. I understand the apprehension and desire to keep it dumb - I was the same way when I got my G80. I disabled smart in favor of dumb for the first couple of months while I got comfortable with the rest of the car. Then I started playing with it. Paranoid as hell - and not trusting the computers to do what had been my job for the previous 40 years of driving. But - I played with it, tested it on sparsely populated highways at first - and learned how it behaved and eventually got comfortable with it.

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[srobak]

The problem around here is if you have more then a few car lenghts between vehicles other drivers take it as a challenge & pop in between. That forces the ACC to 'brake' to recreate it's preset gap, after a short while it gets to be super annoying. Also annoying if you get behind a clown that keeps varying their speed.

Yep - I lived in Chicagoland and commuted in/out of the city - which is lane-jumper central. After getting used to how it behaves - I was comfortable with setting the distance to 1 second and it usually kept the gap close enough in rush hour where people wouldn't usually try to jump in front of me. There were still some - but it wasn't bad. Once at speed out on the highways - 1 second also seemed to do pretty good at keeping people from jumping between - but again there were always a few exceptions. I didn't have enough patience to sit behind people who don't even bother to use cruise control at all - I get around them as quickly as possible so as not to keep rubber-banding behind them.

For rush hour commutes in stop/go - I will say smart cruise is a godsend. Pick a lane, set the cruise, turn of the tunes and just ride. Let the car do the work. Once in a while I had to press "resume" if we sat stopped for more than a few seconds. Otherwise... just chill.

 

[joegr]

...Some cars with adaptive cruise control have an option to switch back to the old, non adaptive, kind. I don't believe that Genesis has that option.

They did have, at least up to 2018 (mine has it), but I think that they no longer have this option on the new/newer ones.

 

[joegr]

(EDIT: Replying to steveinaz) No - I do, and that is why I replied as I did in the first sentence. The option to turn it into a dumb cruise was there in the earlier genesis models. It was in the menus - and I am sure it is still there.
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It is not in any menu on mine. On mine you turn cruise on (but do not engage), then hold the distance button for two seconds and it switches to normal cruise control. The newer Genesis no longer mention this in the owner's manuals, so I think that they have indeed removed the option for normal cruise from those cars.

When I first got this car, I used normal cruise mode a few times, but I eventually realized that it was no value to me. Now I either use the smart cruise or drive manually.

 

[Rochead33]

The problem around here is if you have more than a few car lengths between vehicles other drivers take it as a challenge & pop in between. That forces the ACC to 'brake' to recreate it's preset gap, after a short while it gets to be super annoying. Also annoying if you get behind a clown that keeps varying their speed.

So, I was in the above scenario, smart cruise was on with the minimum 1 sec gap. An idiot cut into my gap, but continued to the next lane. The smart cruise did not brake, just gave an alert and maintained my set speed.

 

[3putts]

I use it all the time. Its pretty intuitive for me (I only have HDA 1). I usually set the cruise gap to 2, 3 if its raining. I keep lane keeping assist on but turn off the lane departure warning. The only issue I have is rarely, usually on a curve, sometimes it just loses acceleration and I need to jump in with my foot on the accelerator. Its like it sees something slow in front of me. This usually resolves itself in 3-5 seconds, but its dangerous to lose acceleration on a highway unexpectedly. Other than that, its awesome. I agree with Ed that I can drive a couple more hours a day now, its so much easier to drive.

 

[dhuhtala]

I use it all the time too - set to 2 or 3 (3 on the highway, 2 in the city) and I have never had it change my speed on a road thus far. Maybe for the first time, being in Canada with less detailed map information is a good thing?!

 

[G-616428]

I keep getting a warning indication that my front radar is blocked or not working on my 2024 G70. When this occurs, the cruise control will not work. It will not reset until I turn the car off and restart. Is there any way to use cruise control without it being in adaptive mode?

 

[speedracer55]

on my 2023 G70 I use the cruise control all the time...I golf almost every day and each course I play at is about 60 min away. I courses closer but they are not as nice...I prefer bent grass and fast greens with good sand in the traps. Go Genesis

 

[3putts]

I keep getting a warning indication that my front radar is blocked or not working on my 2024 G70. When this occurs, the cruise control will not work. It will not reset until I turn the car off and restart. Is there any way to use cruise control without it being in adaptive mode?

I think the radar is in the grille. It's hard to access. If it's a 2024, is it under warranty? It sounds like a bring it in thing to me. Is it really resetting when you turn it off or just not warning since it's not actively working?

 

[David-R]

I keep getting a warning indication that my front radar is blocked or not working on my 2024 G70. When this occurs, the cruise control will not work. It will not reset until I turn the car off and restart. Is there any way to use cruise control without it being in adaptive mode?

In my 25 there's no way to use cruise control without the adaptive feature.