DIS map update info

[Nabber]

Doubtful. My guess would be that the map was "zoomed" in a notch or two more than usual? I find the Nav system horrible at showing an appropriate amount of data in more rural areas. It desperately needs a detail setting like my 10 year old Garmin.

 

[Ron K]

The DIS map did update all by itself. Before when I drove Loop 202 all it would show is the triangle (the car) going through the middle of the desert. Now it shows Loop 202 with all the exits.

 

[kapinossa]

My money is on the zoom level being the driver of the data shown on the screen. I now drive 100% of the time in the 700 foot resolution since this is the most I can zoom out in my home rural area. The lack of data shown when zooming out just one level is a major issue for me. I have used several GPS units for many years and this (Genesis NAV unit) is by far the worst implementation of any unit to show the right level of detail. I have written a few posts about this but no one else seems to care what data is shown. I consider the display of at least the roads without text to be required for at least more than three zoom levels. I am missing Maryland State roads that are four lanes with speed limits at 50 mph at any level zoomed out more than 700 foot resolution. However, I DO like some of the features of the split screen turns and exit resources. It also recals very quickly. Bottom line, I do not think the map will update itself and I am hopefully wishing the next update fixes the poor display of major roadways as soon as you zoom out to the 4th or greater level.
For the members who don't understand my whinning. I preferred to observe some of the local details while driving and most of the time I am zoomed in too close to understand or deceide if another route is an option or not. Case in point, I just returned from a 400 mile trip in my other vehicle due to hauling furniture and I am shocked how much info is shown at almost all levels of zoom, not just a level one or two above my driving level. This is just my opinion, but the display rejection of major state routes in all but three zoom levels is very weak to me.

 

[grtday]

Response: DIS map update info

I just went to the mapnsoft.com website.
They have reference/search for every Hyundai ever built EXCEPT the Genesis. We're not even listed to search for current or updated information.
What's up with this?
What good is an obsolete set of maps?
Hyundai, don't screw up a good thing with apathy!

 

[rv65]

M&Soft says you'll get something in the mail. Oh and it will likely use a security code. 1 update per DIS. It probably uses a ID and then they'll spit out a code that you can use to activate it. The update will take about 45 minutes to an hour.

 

[rv65]

Map update is coming soon. Mapnsoft.com has a test page for it in the 07 Azera section. Update SKU is 3C. Again, 1 car per update due to a security code.

 

[rfox54]

Did you order that?

I am so anxious for an update that I joined mapnsoft.com and was placing the order for $1.00. When you go to check out, $100 is added with a note that "CF Card Included". I am not sure what a CF card is or why it costs $100. I was willing to be a tester for them for $1, but not sure about $101.

 

[jwaters943]

Some of you guys are too much. The car is barely a year old and models w/ the Tech Package didn't even start arriving until late last August IIRC. Give it some time. It's not like Hyundai is trying to screw you over. I've owned 3 vehicles w/ OEM NAV systems (Pilot, GS430, Outlander), as well as a few aftermarket GPS units (Magellan, Navigon, Pioneer). Every single one had outdated maps and when the finally got around to issuing updates (usually every 2 years, but sometimes yearly) they were still noticeably outdated.

It's just the way it is IMO. Heck, our Outlander was purchased 11/06 and they just came out w/ a NAV update last month!

 

[wallymn]

My money is on the zoom level being the driver of the data shown on the screen. I now drive 100% of the time in the 700 foot resolution since this is the most I can zoom out in my home rural area. The lack of data shown when zooming out just one level is a major issue for me. I have used several GPS units for many years and this (Genesis NAV unit) is by far the worst implementation of any unit to show the right level of detail. I have written a few posts about this but no one else seems to care what data is shown. I consider the display of at least the roads without text to be required for at least more than three zoom levels. I am missing Maryland State roads that are four lanes with speed limits at 50 mph at any level zoomed out more than 700 foot resolution. However, I DO like some of the features of the split screen turns and exit resources. It also recals very quickly. Bottom line, I do not think the map will update itself and I am hopefully wishing the next update fixes the poor display of major roadways as soon as you zoom out to the 4th or greater level.
For the members who don't understand my whinning. I preferred to observe some of the local details while driving and most of the time I am zoomed in too close to understand or deceide if another route is an option or not. Case in point, I just returned from a 400 mile trip in my other vehicle due to hauling furniture and I am shocked how much info is shown at almost all levels of zoom, not just a level one or two above my driving level. This is just my opinion, but the display rejection of major state routes in all but three zoom levels is very weak to me.

New rule: Show the road the car is on , no matter the zoom level

 

[rv65]

Re: Did you order that?

I am so anxious for an update that I joined mapnsoft.com and was placing the order for $1.00. When you go to check out, $100 is added with a note that "CF Card Included". I am not sure what a CF card is or why it costs $100. I was willing to be a tester for them for $1, but not sure about $101.

Don't actually order it from them right now. They must be placing it as a test. The CF card is for the Azera, Santa Fe, and Veracruz. Their touch screen system uses a CF card. It's mainly a placeholder until it comes out.

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[rfox54]

thanks RV, and I appreciate your updates

 

[rv65]

The Genesis will use a DVD for it's map updates. Just like the TSB. I think this update will include the TSB fixes.

 

[ctrcbob]

[[I now drive 100% of the time in the 700 foot resolution since this is the most I can zoom out in my home rural area.]]



1. I also "Mostly" drive in the 700 foot setting, but often go to the .25 mile setting. When on a trip, I'm often on the 1 mile or 2 mile setting. Sometimes even further, but when I start getting close to an interchange, or to my destination, I click down, in steps, to 700 feet, and sometimes to 300 feet.

2. It took me a while to figure out that it is not really a "700 foot resolution", but it is 700 feet for the distance that the line below the 700 feet shows.
I.E., there is a line just below the words 700 feet (or any other setting), and that line represents 700 feet.

The reason I did not catch on to the line and distance setting before is because my previous car showed the setting distance, that was the distance from the car arrow to the top or bottom of the screen. To the edges was a little longer.

 

[kapinossa]

Thanks ctrcbob for your input on zoom details. I guess I am the only one that would like to use the map feature to view alternatives to the calculated route. To be able to do this you need to move the map around and see consistent details of what roads are available. In my opinion, other GPS software leaves this unit in the dust on details being displayed on 95% of the zoom levels but the Genesis unit excels in other areas. I am just disappointed in such a basic feature not being selectable for the amount of detail being displayed.
Thanks again, Steve

 

[rv65]

Maps are made by Navteq which means that MapNSoft just resells map data.

 

[rv65]

Navteq now links to mapnsoft.com if you search for Hyundai. I think Mapnsoft will eventually release a map update. Probably early next year. Thats when they normally release updates.

 

[rv65]

The long awaited Map update will probably be in early 2010. M&Soft does use Navteq data in their US Navigation systems. They'll probably announce something later this year.

 

[edesi56]

In MHO, the nav system is an absolute disappointment, and totally unacceptable in a car of this class. It is the hardest to program, most counter-intuitive system I have encountered in any factory-standard system and far worse than any of the many aftermarket systems I have used in my travels. Voice recognition is both unacceptably slow and inaccurate, and just programming the thing is riddled with inconsistencies.
Just a few of the many maddening aspects:
- If you program using Voice commands, you can confirm "State", "City" and "Street Name" much faster than answering "Yes" by simply confirming with a push of the DIS knob. However, after 3-4 minutes of programming, if you try to confirm "Street Number" by doing the same thing, the system RESETS to the beginning.
- If you do not know the EXACT street address you are going to, you can't get there - not even from halfway across the country. For example, I wanted to get from home in North Carolina to a destination 460 miles away in New Jersey, but because the EXACT street number of the new hotel I was going to was not in the GPS, I could not complete the programming and get ANY directions at all. On my trusty Garmin, if I know the name of the street, that's good enough - the Garmin will just suggest a few street numbers on that street and at least I can get reasonably close with confidence...
- Let's say you are sitting in your driveway and go through the whole maddening 4-5 minute process (literally, the same thing it takes me 30-60 seconds to do on a $200 Garmin unit) to program a destination - DON'T DARE PUT THE CAR IN REVERSE to back out of the driveway until you get the final voice confirmation that the street number has been "accepted" - otherwise you have to go through the whole process AGAIN. You can't even go back to "previous destinations" as a shortcut, because the info you just spent your time programming has not made it there yet...
- Add in the lousy detail displayed on anything other than the maximum zoom settings as other people in this thread have described in detail, and the fact mentioned by others that you really can't program alternate routing on the fly because as soon as you zoom out half the roads disappear. Combine this with the lack of a touch screen and you have to wonder where the money for this system went.
Considering the tremendous value proposition represented by Hyundai products in general, and this car in particular, this kind of deficiency really stands out. How can you pack so much value into such a great car and then screw up things like the Nav and Entertainment systems that people have to interact with on a constant basis? I'm hoping that since the systems are software-based, some of these glaring issues will get addressed with future updates. Obviously Hyundai is not going to retrofit our cars with touch-screens, but they can certainly revamp the software features to the point where they are not only more user-friendly but at least perform at the level that have been standard at other manufacturers for years. In the meantime, I've "dissed" my DIS and drive my otherwise beautiful car with a $200 Garmin stuck to the windshield. That solicits only a few less questions than the Wing emblems...

 

[OBCT]

Interesting post, edesi56.

Personally, I find the Genesis' navigation system quite simple/intuitive, decently customizable, and more than sufficiently precise and descriptive. There are a few finnicky little details that took some getting used to. I will also admit that I have not yet tried programming the nav via the voice recognition system.

One thing I will say is that there are times when the outdated mapping data (almost 2 years old now?) is extremely annoying. I'm waiting patiently for the update in early 2010 which should fix this issue ... at least for awhile.

 

[rv65]

Just keep checking out MapNSoft.com. A map update will be coming out in the near future.