Does the Lexicon system have an anti-theft mechanism?

[redrocks]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does the Lexicon system have anti-theft mechanism? In other word, if someone steals from your car, do they need code/pin to activate it?

 

[musher51]

I don't think so. If there is such a feature, it's been significantly undermarketed.

 

[BaywayRic]

I had that on my 528i and the car came with a radio PIN, just like a key code. Nothing of the sort comes with the Genesis, nor is it indicated in any of the documentation.

 

[redrocks]

Thank you for the replies. So, here we have a car audio system that's top of the line and only found in the Rolls Royce, but doesn't have an anti-theft mechanism. Ok, so what does the Genesis' alarm system do? There's a engine immobilizer and all the doors, trunk and hood are armed to have alarm go off when opened. Does the Genesis have glass breakage sensors?

Here's where I'm going, you've got this beautiful car and it's got a rare top of the line audio system. Can someone break the driver or passenger side window(s), slip into the car through the window, steal the audio system from the dash. Then slip out of the car through the window without triggering the alarm system?

BTW, I love the car! Have not seen it in person and I'm very interested in the V8.

 

[Simonwpb]

The best anit-theft feature is that no thief would know how to hook it up!
I wouldn't even know where to start to remove the audio system from the car, it is so integrated into the dash and auto electronics system...

The sound system is integrated into other electronics with a fiber optic network, not easy to reinstall aftermarket! So you do not have standard speaker connections.

With the technology package the "iDrive" control knob and display screen are required to use it.

http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/engineering.html#/engineering/

Lexicon claims that the Lexicon Discrete Surround Audio System produces an acoustic experience that draws the listener deep into the performance with superior harmonic richness and higher quality bass.

The Lexicon Discrete Surround Audio System contains 7.1 channels of sound with a total output of 528 watts through 17 transducers or speakers. Two three-way transducer systems provide timbre balance, while also improving the clarity of audio playback. Five two-way transducer systems yield the same sonic signature across all channels for optimum consistency in tone.

In addition to handling multiple media sources, Lexicon's digital signal processing provides unique system equalization giving both driver and passengers the best possible acoustic performance of any vehicle.

Joe Pullin, Harman/Becker Automotive Systems vice president, global marketing, said: "The new Lexicon Discrete Surround Audio System clearly demonstrates how uncompromising sound integrity results in a stunning and extraordinary listening experience for Genesis drivers. It's intelligently designed, technologically advanced and sonically spectacular."

 

[gipp]

If this is true that the system does not have any anit theft deterrent can we erase this thread from the forum immediately so nobody starts to get any ideas. This seems almost impossible and should immediately go into the upgrades forum. Oops, I don't want anyone getting any ideas from there either....If so, this is an issue similar in nature to the Maxima HID's.

 

[redrocks]

Yes, Hyundai uses fiber optic cables through out the car. But you can buy these fiber optic cables since the use of fiber optic is becoming more and more common to deliver high quality HD sound.

 

[BaywayRic]

And, the guts of the system are in the 7.1 AMP which is located in the trunk.[on the network] The maintenance site shows you how to get at it, and it's not easy, and it is alarmed! Unless, of course, you can break the glass, squeeze in, fit through the access panel behind the rear seat arm rest, and then take the trunk apart in the dark, pop the manual trunk release from the inside, setting off the alram , and then make a clean getaway.

 

[redrocks]

And, the guts of the system are in the 7.1 AMP which is located in the trunk.[on the network] The maintenance site shows you how to get at it, and it's not easy, and it is alarmed! Unless, of course, you can break the glass, squeeze in, fit through the access panel behind the rear seat arm rest, and then take the trunk apart in the dark, pop the manual trunk release from the inside, setting off the alram , and then make a clean getaway.

Seriously, is it possible? Good thing the Genesis back seats don't fold open. To the unknowledgable car stereo thief, that would be a b---- not knwing the amp is the brain. Imagine all the hard work breaking into the car, removing the main stereo component and be able to fully use it.

Can the thief cut out the back seat? Or at least a hole big enough to access the AMP w/o opening the trunk?

 

[John M]

Here's the cold hard truth: nobody wants factory radios. Nobody. I owned a car stereo store in the mid 90s and even then there weren't any factory audio components that were in danger of being stolen. Auto makers made you feel safe & secure by having that irritating PIN function but the only time I ever ran into that problem is when the legitimate owner of the car was trying to recall the PIN after the battery had been disconnected.

Crooks want to convert their loot into cash, and how easy is it to fence a radio that will work only in a 2009 Hyundai Genesis and only if they have all the required components?

So, it won't work in their car (crime of opportunity) and they can't sell it for money. Therefore it isn't worth their time to steal and they'll go grab somebody else's iPod from an unlocked car.

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[redrocks]

Here's the cold hard truth: nobody wants factory radios. Nobody. I owned a car stereo store in the mid 90s and even then there weren't any factory audio components that were in danger of being stolen. Auto makers made you feel safe & secure by having that irritating PIN function but the only time I ever ran into that problem is when the legitimate owner of the car was trying to recall the PIN after the battery had been disconnected.

Crooks want to convert their loot into cash, and how easy is it to fence a radio that will work only in a 2009 Hyundai Genesis and only if they have all the required components?

So, it won't work in their car (crime of opportunity) and they can't sell it for money. Therefore it isn't worth their time to steal and they'll go grab somebody else's iPod from an unlocked car.

Is this a factory radio or is the radio made by Lexicon? Per Hyundai ad, "528 watt Lexicon Discrete 7.1 surround sound system, a brand shared only with Rolls-Royce..." Does it really "only" work in a Hyundai Genesis? Can you purchase this Lexicon sound system at Best Buys or Circuit City? Would a thief have better odds at stealing this Lexicon sound system from a Rolls-Royce or a Hyundai?

 

[Simonwpb]

Redrocks,

Lexicon is a division of the same company that makes Harmon Kardon. Not available at Crutchfield or BB or CC. Everyone will tell you this is the best sounding car audio they have listened to, but I don't think you would get the same results just transplanting it to another car. This sound system has been custom engineered for this vehicle.

I for one am not concerned about someone stealing the radio. The car has an alarm, and the Lexicon system is not easy to remove, and as John pointed out it has low street value. Nobody is going to rip out all the speakers, amp, hard-drive, and processor unit that make it all work. Why bother? Just buy a Genesis!

 

[redrocks]

Redrocks,

Lexicon is a division of the same company that makes Harmon Kardon. Not available at Crutchfield or BB or CC. Everyone will tell you this is the best sounding car audio they have listened to, but I don't think you would get the same results just transplanting it to another car. This sound system has been custom engineered for this vehicle.

I for one am not concerned about someone stealing the radio. The car has an alarm, and the Lexicon system is not easy to remove, and as John pointed out it has low street value. Nobody is going to rip out all the speakers, amp, hard-drive, and processor unit that make it all work. Why bother? Just buy a Genesis!

Yes, I'm aware that Lexicon is not available at everyday audio stores. That's what makes it attractive, especially to a Genesis owner who didn't purchase the upgraded 7.1 system. Afterall, didn't someone post something about only 50,000 Genesis being made. Stealing for auto parts is a Big $ Business. A car alarm siren/horn can be disabled very quickly by two people working together. Thieves aren't interested in the whole car, they want the parts (wheels, audio system, seats, etc). Surely, you're not naive enough to believe that a car alarm system will deter a thief.

Anyway, I just wanted to highlight that a anti-theft device in the sound system would have been a nice "added" feature. I truly believe that the Genesis will become the most sought after vehicle in America. It's got the biggest bang for the bucks! The V8 will make an even bigger Bang! Yes, it may even make the top ten most stolen vehicles list! Don't you agree!

 

[Jerrad]

Yes, I'm aware that Lexicon is not available at everyday audio stores. That's what makes it attractive, especially to a Genesis owner who didn't purchase the upgraded 7.1 system. Afterall, didn't someone post something about only 50,000 Genesis being made. Stealing for auto parts is a Big $ Business. A car alarm siren/horn can be disabled very quickly by two people working together. Thieves aren't interested in the whole car, they want the parts (wheels, audio system, seats, etc). Surely, you're not naive enough to believe that a car alarm system will deter a thief.

Anyway, I just wanted to highlight that a anti-theft device in the sound system would have been a nice "added" feature. I truly believe that the Genesis will become the most sought after vehicle in America. It's got the biggest bang for the bucks! The V8 will make an even bigger Bang! Yes, it may even make the top ten most stolen vehicles list! Don't you agree!

I think you are confusing Genesis owners with the typical Honda owner. I belive anyone that is buying a Genesis can afford to buy parts from the dealer rather then try to steal a Genesis to part it out.

And yes I mention Honda since they are the top stolen cars!

As for it being so limited in numbers, My SRT-4 production is limited to 25,000 for 3 years and is not on the top 10. So limited production does not automatically put a car on the top 10 stolen vehicles list.

Top 10 stolen vehicles are not luxury vehicles.