Electric GV70

[Wolf359fb]

Anyone saw the latest Genesis creation?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a69499287/genesis-magma-gt-supercar-concept-revealed/

 

[Blitz118]

I thought I'd share a few pictures from my first experience with DC charging. Typically, I charge my vehicle at home 100 percent of the time. However, we recently took a trip to Poughkeepsie, NY for my daughter's college open house, and I decided to give DC charging a try.

 

[Wolf359fb]

I thought I'd share a few pictures from my first experience with DC charging. Typically, I charge my vehicle at home 100 percent of the time. However, we recently took a trip to Poughkeepsie, NY for my daughter's college open house, and I decided to give DC charging a try.

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Cool, I hope it was seamless... What charging speed did you get?

 

[Blitz118]

Cool, I hope it was seamless... What charging speed did you get?

The process was quite seamless overall, and I had to use my CCS to NASC adapter. Despite this, I was only able to achieve a maximum speed of 88 kWh, which seemed lower than expected given that it was a 240-kW station.

 

[Wolf359fb]

The process was quite seamless overall, and I had to use my CCS to NASC adapter. Despite this, I was only able to achieve a maximum speed of 88 kWh, which seemed lower than expected given that it was a 240-kW station.

Indeed, hard to say if the station or adapter is at fault here...

 

[rbreeze]

Hi All. After just over 2-1/2 years of eGV70 ownership, I'm probably looking at having to replace the 12V AGM battery. The orange-colored 12V battery charging indicator light on the dashboard is coming on several times a day and it usually stays on for more than an hour each time. I've contacted my local Genesis distributor and they advised/confirmed that the 12V battery is only warranted for 2 years. They also said that Genesis considers the 12V battery to be a "wear item", just like the brakes on the vehicle.
I suppose the type of service my eGV70 has largely been in since delivery has worked to reduce the useful life of my 12V battery, with frequent short drives being the norm for us and where 12V charging periods have usually been pretty brief.
The Hyundai dealer's Parts Dept. located beside the Genesis distributor, advised yesterday that a new replacement battery for my eGV70 will cost me CAD$362 plus tax and will be available at the parts dept next week. I've decided to install the new battery myself.
I've also decided to buy a new, modern 12V battery charger for my garage, which will have all the latest features including the user's choice of battery type, desulfator, trickle charge, automatic maintainer, etc. I'm currently looking at the 'NOCO Genius10' and the 'TowerTop 2/10/25 Amp 12V Smart Car Battery Charger'. Both are available on Amazon for just over CAD$100.
That's the latest....

 

[NVQB10]

Not sure which models this applies to, but some Genesis need to be "reset" after battery replacements. I believe there are a couple of different resets--one at the battery itself, and the other using the dash keypad pushing the 2 buttons at either extreme end simultaneously for 5 seconds. On my GV80 I believe those are the Map and SetUp buttons. Also, when I replaced my battery I used a little "settings keeper", a gadget with a 9v radio battery that plugs into your 12v cigar lighter and holds/gives enough power to the car so you do not lose presets like radio, cruise settings, etc. Worked for me (along with the dash reset buttons) when I put in a new battery on my 2021. I did not need the battery-located reset.

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[Wolf359fb]

Hi All. After just over 2-1/2 years of eGV70 ownership, I'm probably looking at having to replace the 12V AGM battery. The orange-colored 12V battery charging indicator light on the dashboard is coming on several times a day and it usually stays on for more than an hour each time. I've contacted my local Genesis distributor and they advised/confirmed that the 12V battery is only warranted for 2 years. They also said that Genesis considers the 12V battery to be a "wear item", just like the brakes on the vehicle.
I suppose the type of service my eGV70 has largely been in since delivery has worked to reduce the useful life of my 12V battery, with frequent short drives being the norm for us and where 12V charging periods have usually been pretty brief.
The Hyundai dealer's Parts Dept. located beside the Genesis distributor, advised yesterday that a new replacement battery for my eGV70 will cost me CAD$362 plus tax and will be available at the parts dept next week. I've decided to install the new battery myself.
I've also decided to buy a new, modern 12V battery charger for my garage, which will have all the latest features including the user's choice of battery type, desulfator, trickle charge, automatic maintainer, etc. I'm currently looking at the 'NOCO Genius10' and the 'TowerTop 2/10/25 Amp 12V Smart Car Battery Charger'. Both are available on Amazon for just over CAD$100.
That's the latest....

I'm surprised driving habits with an EV would have any effect on the 12V battery's health. An ICE car will need some driving time for the alternator to charge it, but on the EV it's the big battery that maintains the 12V, wether or not the car is being driven... If anything, it should be a boost for battery life, that's so strange...

 

[rbreeze]

Not sure which models this applies to, but some Genesis need to be "reset" after battery replacements. I believe there are a couple of different resets--one at the battery itself, and the other using the dash keypad pushing the 2 buttons at either extreme end simultaneously for 5 seconds. On my GV80 I believe those are the Map and SetUp buttons. Also, when I replaced my battery I used a little "settings keeper", a gadget with a 9v radio battery that plugs into your 12v cigar lighter and holds/gives enough power to the car so you do not lose presets like radio, cruise settings, etc. Worked for me (along with the dash reset buttons) when I put in a new battery on my 2021. I did not need the battery-located reset.

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Thank you for your information, particularly regarding the "settings keeper" that you utilized. You've actually helped me decide to order the NOCO GENIUS10 6V/12V 10 Amp Smart Battery Charger rather then the TowerTop charger. The NOCO GENIUS10 has an available "12V Supply" mode which, when enabled, can supply 13.6V | 10 amps to the vehicle to serve as a settings/memory retainer when replacing the 12V battery.

Other: Before I buy the new AGM battery I'm going to see if I can 'restore' the original battery using the special hi-tech features of the NOCO charger. The listing's write-up on Amazon mentions the following:

• RESTORE YOUR BATTERY — Precision pulse charging automatically detects and reverses battery sulfation and acid stratification, restoring your battery's health for improved performance and extended lifespan.

Interesting stuff - we'll see what happens.

 

[rbreeze]

I'm surprised driving habits with an EV would have any effect on the 12V battery's health. An ICE car will need some driving time for the alternator to charge it, but on the EV it's the big battery that maintains the 12V, wether or not the car is being driven... If anything, it should be a boost for battery life, that's so strange...

^ Wolf, I totally concur with what you're saying. But what if the big battery's 'playbook' (i.e. the software programming that looks after 12V charging when the vehicle is shut down) isn't doing its job very well when driving events (and therefore 'normal' 12V charging events) are sporadic and short in duration?
Who knows? Maybe my eGV70 was equipped with a 'less-than-perfect' 12V battery from the factory or the local Genesis distributor somehow completely discharged and damaged/weakened the battery at time of PDI?

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[Wolf359fb]

^ Wolf, I totally concur with what you're saying. But what if the big battery's 'playbook' (i.e. the software programming that looks after 12V charging when the vehicle is shut down) isn't doing its job very well when driving events (and therefore 'normal' 12V charging events) are sporadic and short in duration?
Who knows? Maybe my eGV70 was equipped with a 'less-than-perfect' 12V battery from the factory or the local Genesis distributor somehow completely discharged and damaged/weakened the battery at time of PDI?

That could be!

I remember keeping a car 5 years with it's original battery, knowing the next owner was probably good for another 2-3 years before replacing it, but now it looks "normal" for a GV70 battery (ICE or EV) to go belly up after 2-3 years... Will see how mine holds up...

 

[NVQB10]

Thank you for your information, particularly regarding the "settings keeper" that you utilized. You've actually helped me decide to order the NOCO GENIUS10 6V/12V 10 Amp Smart Battery Charger rather then the TowerTop charger. The NOKO GENIUS10 has an available "12V Supply" mode which, when enabled, can supply 13.6V | 10 amps to the vehicle to serve as a settings/memory retainer when replacing the 12V battery.

Other: Before I buy the new AGM battery I'm going to see if I can 'restore' the original battery using the special hi-tech features of the NOKO charger. The listing's write-up on Amazon mentions the following:

• RESTORE YOUR BATTERY — Precision pulse charging automatically detects and reverses battery sulfation and acid stratification, restoring your battery's health for improved performance and extended lifespan.

Interesting stuff - we'll see what happens.

Sounds like a good plan. We will be interested in hearing if you can revive your battery!

 

[NVQB10]

Sounds like a good plan. We will be interested in hearing if you can revive your battery!

I know you probably know this, but be sure to put it on the AGM setting as they charge differently.

 

[Wolf359fb]

Although they don't mention the GV70, Saville Silver is offered on it as well, I wonder if this will lead to a larger investigation of all Genesis cars in this color:

Genesis Just Realized Its Own Paint Color Can Trigger Sudden Braking | Carscoops

A bizarre ADAS issue on the Genesis G90 is linked to aluminum-rich silver paint affecting radar performance

www.carscoops.com

 

[rbreeze]

Although they don't mention the GV70, Saville Silver is offered on it as well, I wonder if this will lead to a larger investigation of all Genesis cars in this color:

Genesis Just Realized Its Own Paint Color Can Trigger Sudden Braking | Carscoops

A bizarre ADAS issue on the Genesis G90 is linked to aluminum-rich silver paint affecting radar performance

www.carscoops.com

^ What a weird occasional glitch that is on silver G90s! I have Savile Silver on my eGV70 and have travelled thousands of kilometres with ACC active and HDA engaged, but I've never experienced THAT issue. Incidentally, I've tried the Lane Change Assist feature a few times on my eGV70 and discovered I didn't really like how the system operated overall, so I've disabled it.

You may recall that several months ago I posted in this thread that while driving on the Ontario 401 highway (freeway) and doing a 'respectable speed' in the left lane (with several vehicles drafting behind me), I was suddenly kicked right out of ACC... and was then horrified to discover that I no longer had forward motive power, as in zero. My wife and I were pretty near freaking out, along with all the drivers in the cars directly behind us. I managed eventually to get our eGV70 over to the right side hard shoulder and brought the car to a stop... only to discover (finally) that the car was in N (Neutral), not D (Drive). Now, THAT was a dangerous glitch to experience. I'm not a big fan of "shift by wire" anymore.

 

[Wolf359fb]

^ What a weird occasional glitch that is on silver G90s! I have Savile Silver on my eGV70 and have travelled thousands of kilometres with ACC active and HDA engaged, but I've never experienced THAT issue. Incidentally, I've tried the Lane Change Assist feature a few times on my eGV70 and discovered I didn't really like how the system operated overall, so I've disabled it.

You may recall that several months ago I posted in this thread that while driving on the Ontario 401 highway (freeway) and doing a 'respectable speed' in the left lane (with several vehicles drafting behind me), I was suddenly kicked right out of ACC... and was then horrified to discover that I no longer had forward motive power, as in zero. My wife and I were pretty near freaking out, along with all the drivers in the cars directly behind us. I managed eventually to get our eGV70 over to the right side hard shoulder and brought the car to a stop... only to discover (finally) that the car was in N (Neutral), not D (Drive). Now, THAT was a dangerous glitch to experience. I'm not a big fan of "shift by wire" anymore.

Wow, that's scary! Never happened to me, at the same time I concur with the main critic on the GV70 being that the shiter and infotainment controller, both cylinders a few inches apart, can be easily confused with one another. It's one thing to move in menus when trying to shift, it's another to shift to neutral when accessing the infotainment system - I'm not saying this is what happened to you, just that this poor control placement might make it happen to others. There's nothing wrong with a little stick to change gears, it's been used for like a century, wether its on the center console or steering column!

 

[rbreeze]

Wow, that's scary! Never happened to me, at the same time I concur with the main critic on the GV70 being that the shiter and infotainment controller, both cylinders a few inches apart, can be easily confused with one another. It's one thing to move in menus when trying to shift, it's another to shift to neutral when accessing the infotainment system - I'm not saying this is what happened to you, just that this poor control placement might make it happen to others. There's nothing wrong with a little stick to change gears, it's been used for like a century, wether its on the center console or steering column!

^ A little "stick" on the center console to change gears is great (much better than a dial or push-buttons)... but I'm also liking the newfangled steering column mounted gear shifter stalks they're putting in some new vehicles, such as Hyundai Ioniq 5/6/9 and Kia EV9.
Just wanted to mention/confirm here that when I'm driving on the freeway and "at speed" in the passing lane, I ALWAYS have BOTH HANDS on the steering wheel. Regarding the shifter and infotainment controllers in the eGV70, I haven't mixed up those dials since the first few days of vehicle ownership.. and that was more than 2-1/2 years ago.

 

[Wolf359fb]

^ A little "stick" on the center console to change gears is great (much better than a dial or push-buttons)... but I'm also liking the newfangled steering column mounted gear shifter stalks they're putting in some new vehicles, such as Hyundai Ioniq 5/6/9 and Kia EV9.
Just wanted to mention/confirm here that when I'm driving on the freeway and "at speed" in the passing lane, I ALWAYS have BOTH HANDS on the steering wheel. Regarding the shifter and infotainment controllers in the eGV70, I haven't mixed those dials up since the first few days of vehicle ownership.. and that was more than 2-1/2 years ago.

That's good practice, anything else is a distraction, and it's a bad move from carmakers (Especially Tesla who started this trend) to put everything including climate controls in touchscreens...! At least the GV70 still has rotary dials for temperature so you don't have to take your eyes off the road to fiddle with these, but not so much for heated seats, steering wheel and others...

 

[rbreeze]

Thank you for your information, particularly regarding the "settings keeper" that you utilized. You've actually helped me decide to order the NOCO GENIUS10 6V/12V 10 Amp Smart Battery Charger rather then the TowerTop charger. The NOCO GENIUS10 has an available "12V Supply" mode which, when enabled, can supply 13.6V | 10 amps to the vehicle to serve as a settings/memory retainer when replacing the 12V battery.

Other: Before I buy the new AGM battery I'm going to see if I can 'restore' the original battery using the special hi-tech features of the NOCO charger. The listing's write-up on Amazon mentions the following:

• RESTORE YOUR BATTERY — Precision pulse charging automatically detects and reverses battery sulfation and acid stratification, restoring your battery's health for improved performance and extended lifespan.

Interesting stuff - we'll see what happens.

Further to my previous post on the topic (ref. above), I received the NOCO Genius10 Smart Charger a couple of days ago and right away connected it to my eGV70's 12V system at the POS and NEG jump start connection points under the hood. I left the charger connected for a straight 36+ hours. I have a BM2 Battery Monitor device connected directly to my 12V AGM battery. The device sends battery voltage data to the Battery Monitor app on my smartphone via Bluetooth. I can view my 12V battery voltage info in real time as well as call up charts in the app that show battery voltage values throughout the period(s) of 1 day, 7 days and 15 days.
It was interesting to study the 1 day chart 24 hours after the Smart Charger was initially connected. The charging voltage (as measured at the battery) varied quite a lot during that period - sometimes as high as 14.8V and sometimes as low as 13.4V - and still other times where the voltage was somewhere between those two extremes. When the Smart Charger indicated charging was complete, the voltage on my 12V battery showed 12.9V after I let the battery "settle" for a while. That's a great (perfect) voltage for a 12V AGM battery and indicates a proper full charge.
On the chart I looked at that covered the hours after the initial full charge, the Smart Charger carried out further "mini" charge sessions (of about 10 minutes in duration each) about every two hours or so. Interesting!

I drove my eGV70 to a number of places around town today (shutting the car off several times) and never once did I see the orange 12V charging indicator light come on. It's still early days but I believe the new Smart Charger has helped revive/restore my 12V AGM battery. I will continue to connect the Smart Charger to the car every night for the next few weeks - it certainly can't hurt.

P.S. I looked at my Battery Monitor phone app a few times today with the car ON/running and consistently saw 14.65V on the screen. And whenever I use the Level 2 charger (EVSE) in my garage to charge my eGV70's main battery, I have also only ever seen 14.65V on the phone screen. So... unlike the NOCO "Smart Charger" that applies numerous voltages and strategies/routines to achieve its charging goal, it appears the eGV70 utilizes a "Dumb Charger" (a singular voltage only) all the time to charge the 12V AGM battery. Well hell.. that's interesting too!

 

[NVQB10]

Further to my previous post on the topic (ref. above), I received the NOCO Genius10 Smart Charger a couple of days ago and right away connected it to my eGV70's 12V system at the POS and NEG jump start connection points under the hood. I left the charger connected for a straight 36+ hours. I have a BM2 Battery Monitor device connected directly to my 12V AGM battery. The device sends battery voltage data to the Battery Monitor app on my smartphone via Bluetooth. I can view my 12V battery voltage info in real time as well as call up charts in the app that show battery voltage values throughout the period(s) of 1 day, 7 days and 15 days.
It was interesting to study the 1 day chart 24 hours after the Smart Charger was initially connected. The charging voltage (as measured at the battery) varied quite a lot during that period - sometimes as high as 14.8V and sometimes as low as 13.4V - and still other times where the voltage was somewhere between those two extremes. When the Smart Charger indicated charging was complete, the voltage on my 12V battery showed 12.9V after I let the battery "settle" for a while. That's a great (perfect) voltage for a 12V AGM battery and indicates a proper full charge.
On the chart I looked at that covered the hours after the initial full charge, the Smart Charger carried out further "mini" charge sessions (of about 10 minutes in duration each) about every two hours or so. Interesting!

I drove my eGV70 to a number of places around town today (shutting the car off several times) and never once did I see the orange 12V charging indicator light come on. It's still early days but I believe the new Smart Charger has helped revive/restore my 12V AGM battery. I will continue to connect the Smart Charger to the car every night for the next few weeks - it certainly can't hurt.

P.S. I looked at my Battery Monitor phone app a few times today with the car ON/running and consistently saw 14.65V on the screen. And whenever I use the Level 2 charger (EVSE) in my garage to charge my eGV70's main battery, I have also only ever seen 14.65V on the phone screen. So... unlike the NOCO "Smart Charger" that applies numerous voltages and strategies/routines to achieve its charging goal, it appears the eGV70 utilizes a "Dumb Charger" (a singular voltage only) all the time to charge the 12V AGM battery. Well hell.. that's interesting too!

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Well Hooray! Good work and perseverance. Plus buying the charger paid for itself 2x over on its first-aid first use, and you have a permanent backup and an on-vacation solution too. Well done!