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Electric turbos

chrev

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This is something I would do if I could find someone who can tune. Looks like the electric equivalent of NOS where you hit a button and instant CFM. Since BTR no longer tunes the 4.6 hopefully someone hacks the ECU again.

 
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Damn, seems like a deceit power producing product. I may not buy it for my Genesis 5.0 v8, but I am considering buying on for my tuned 6.0 V8 Escalade. Good find!!!!!
 
You need to consider a few things:
1. You'll get much less, if any, boost with this on a larger motor (V6 or V8), because the electric supercharger just can't keep up with the CFM demanded by a larger motor. This same guy did a video on a mustang where they actually lost power.
1a. The torque amp website even has a video that even mentions this, but then points out that their product did increase torque, but at a much lower RPM. What he didn't say is that this means you're losing a lot of horsepower in the upper range of the rev band.
2. Even on smaller motors, you may need to change the injectors to provide enough fuel to maintain the proper AF ratio. Most traditional super or turbo charger kits include new, higher flow injectors for this reason.
Just because they made more power for a few seconds on the Dyno doesn't mean the motor is going to be happy doing this on a regular basis, long term. If it's running too lean, that will melt things, like plugs and valves.
3. You need to find a home for that big booster and 48v battery.
4. I'd be concerned with the extra loading on your battery and alternator. When you consider that the voltage is being boosted 4x, plus losses. Check out the wire gauge they're using. That's a lot of current. They say the booster is turned off when the electric motor is being used to provide boost, but then the 48v battery needs to be recharged. Ultimately those thousands of Watts have to come from your electrical system.
5. For $5k, there are probably better ways to make more power
6. Never trust a guy named Cleetus wearing a lab coat. Lol
I'm not saying electric supercharging isn't possible, in fact some manufacturers are beginning to use it in certain applications. I'm just saying it's not easy, and needs to be very carefully engineered, as a system, to be effective and reliable for day to day use.
 
Forgot to mention that they were also using race gas and/or E85. This would be expensive/inconvenient.
If you don't run higher octane fuel (assuming you are getting some boost), then the ECU will just dial back the timing to prevent detonation, negating performance benefit.
 
I wasn't thinking it would be easy. I'm not too worried about the electrical portion. Im an EE by trade so thats no big deal to figure out. This engine is already probably in the 11s with its static compression ratio so I would take the same precautions as doing a traditional FI setup if I did this. Since no one tunes this engine any FI is out of the question anyway. Its all just for fun.
 
Gotcha.
I'm a recently retired EE myself. What company do you work for (or what's your area of expertise)?
 
I work at MCNC as a network engineer now. Small company so we have to deal with all the power engineering for our POPs. Before that I worked at Certainteed as an EE but got tired of the smell of asphalt. I think those turbo chargers or more electric superchargers considering how the boost is instant like a belt blower versus gradual like a turbo. I might try it my old Z24 that being converted to track duty.
 
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