I am new to this, but am sometimes doing 90%. I can see that this is unpopular. Last night I did it multiple empty charges alongside. I charged from 29% to 90% in 21 minutes. I don't feel like I was hoarding and am certain I wasn't delaying anyone. I guess my point is, it is situational.
I agree, and disagree. When I'm on a trip, and am charging at a very rural station with no one waiting, I should have the ability to charge to 100%. If I wish to spend the time waiting, and no one is inconvenienced but me, that should be my choice.
I don't agree that it should be expanded to the entire network - just metropolitan areas. There are places in the intermountain West where chargers are over 150 miles apart. In that case I think it should be allowed to go over 85%, and it appears that EA agrees. I think the 85% limit should only be applied when there are multiple other EA stations within 50 miles. So Los Angeles, Las Vegas, San Francisco etc. But there should not be a limit at places like Gallup, NM or Prescott, AZ.
It won't prevent it, but EA will charge them idle fees. If those are high enough, that should discourage it.
I read a recent article that EA "will" start to charge people idle fees. I could be wrong but I think the majority of people charging at EA are under the "Free" charging program. I think once EA starts to charge idle fees a lot of people will more their cars. Some people don't care about others waiting, unless there are repercussions that would cost themselves money.
They don't charge idle fees now? Whenever my charge finishes the EA app always tells me to disconnect within 10 minutes to avoid idle fees, and it even counts down the time (I've never gotten below 7-8 minutes, even that was only because I was chatting to the next driver). I think the timer also shows on the stall itself. Are you saying they are lying to me? (not that I would be super surprised)
I have had the car for two years now. On my very first charge experience two years ago they had the same warning to disconnect within 10 minutes or else. I Have never encountered anyone in my area that had said they were ever charged an idle fee for exceeding the 10 minute grace period.
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This just happened to me at a Tesla Magic Dock with 8 chargers at 11:00 Saturday night. I was the only one using that facility at that time so there were 7 empty spots next to me. ABRP said I needed to charge to 93% to get home. This Magic Dock location throttled down from 97 kW to 7 kW at 81%. It basically forced me to spend another hour or more charging at that location or find an extra stop along my route (which is what I ended up doing). It was very inconvenient.
If one is going to drive an EV on long trips, IMO one has to plan on stopping more often by charging to 80%. The time on the trip will actually be shorter and you won't be spending your time watching paint dry. Eventually, as state and local governments start building up the fast charger infrastructure, that will be relatively easy. But we probably have a few years before that happens. We didn't get all our gas stations overnight and we won't get all the charging stations overnight either.
You folks in that area are really getting treated very well. From the new Genesis dealer/service center to this. Good on you!
Yep, I agree with you. In this specific instance, however, the alternative charging locations were off my route. I had to drive out of my way to get to them, which I'm sure is why ABRP suggested charging at the Magic Dock up to 93%.
It's typical that the GV60 throttles down to a very low number at around 82-83%. Then it usually goes back up again.
I only charge at EA. A few months ago around the time of the recall being applied for overheating charge ports mine starting doing this this most of the time. Not sure why because a couple minutes later is goes up to ~70kW. Before the recall fix during a very hot summer day when I was charging at EA I heard a loud bang, the car and app had an electrical failure type message. Which went away after a couple ignition cycles. Last week at a newly upgrade EA station it just stopped charging out of know where at 50%. I had to leave in ten minutes so I decided not to try and restart a session.
These chargers are really 175kW chargers, but EA brands them as 150. I think they think that "175" is too complicated for folks. Note that 175 is 1/2 of 350. I think a 350 charger is basically two 150s (actually 175s) connected together internally.
What was your SOC when you started charging? Also, 55 degrees is definitely cold enough to reduce charging speeds. How long were you pre-conditioning?
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