Finally, hyundai is pushing the 3.3L turbo. share your comments!

[CanukV6]

Would anyone prefer that this topic get split into two separate discussions? It can easily be done...

Good idea.

 

[Monolith2001]

Timely videos keep coming. Check out this great vid of the new C63 AMG S. This is the replacement for the previous gen C63. For those of you who may not have read my previous posts in this thread, I have always loved the M156/M159 normally aspirated 6.2-liter V8 (used in C63 AMG and the SLS). That engine has been retired and has been replaced by the smaller twin-turbo 4.0-liter M177/M178. Check out XCAR's take on this motor. He addresses a lot of the concerns raised in this thread. Not a turbo V6 to NA V8 comparison but does hit a lot of points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFc2_p1Y5hA

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I like forced induction because it's always easy to bump up performance as opposed to naturally aspirated engines. Without forced induction your best bets are intake and exhaust and they don't normally do a whole lot. Neither do tunes, generally. With forced induction it's easy to get 50-100 horsepower and torque ON TOP of whatever gains you get from upgrading the intake and exhaust... So to me, it's a no brainer which option I'm going to choose.

I've tuned ALL my forced inducted cars and I never had a "sputtering" or "wheezing" engine. My turbo V6s were a 2.7 Audi and 3.0 BMW...

 

[GenesisCaptain]

I like forced induction because it's always easy to bump up performance as opposed to naturally aspirated engines... So to me, it's a no brainer which option I'm going to choose.

+1

Torque is what accelerates a car.
The amount of torque an engine produces is directly related to the size and frequency of the explosion in the combustion chamber.
So, there are only a few way to increase torque:

1. Create larger explosions (more displacement)
2. Create more explosions (more cylinders)
3. Create more intense explosions (forced induction)

I am a huge fan of #1 and #2, but they come with a significant weight and size penalty.

Not only does option #3 produce the same power as #1 and #2 without the weight and size disadvantage, but it also produces more torque at lower RPM. #1 and #2 really cannot get there alone.

That said, my preferred engine configurations are I6, V8, and V12 because they are balanced and just run more smoothly. My overall favorite is the V8 because it seems to optimize the best of the bunch. I hope my next engine is a blown V8.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I love V8s with forced induction. I'm a car nut - so I would. But - there are really so few of us compared to the average buyer who just wants a car that can move out of it's own way. I'm sure the 3.3 liter twin turbo V6 will satisfy 99% of Hyundai buyers MORE than the naturally aspirated 3.8 liter V6 it'll replace.

+1

Torque is what accelerates a car.
The amount of torque an engine produces is directly related to the size and frequency of the explosion in the combustion chamber.
So, there are only a few way to increase torque:

1. Create larger explosions (more displacement)
2. Create more explosions (more cylinders)
3. Create more intense explosions (forced induction)

I am a huge fan of #1 and #2, but they come with a significant weight and size penalty.

Not only does option #3 produce the same power as #1 and #2 without the weight and size disadvantage, but it also produces more torque at lower RPM. #1 and #2 really cannot get there alone.

That said, my preferred engine configurations are I6, V8, and V12 because they are balanced and just run more smoothly. My overall favorite is the V8 because it seems to optimize the best of the bunch. I hope my next engine is a blown V8.

 

[GenesisCaptain]

I'm sure the 3.3 liter twin turbo V6 will satisfy 99% of Hyundai buyers MORE than the naturally aspirated 3.8 liter V6 it'll replace.

Ditto, I am a car nut too. I intentionally chose the V6 this go-around because I was coming from a big engine, and I wanted a break from the horrible gas mileage and maintenance. Plus, I thought the power of the V6 would be adequate compared to my prior cars. The 3.8 looks good at a glance on paper, but it does not have the low-end torque to satisfy former big displacement engine people. I have a little buyer's remorse. However, if I had stepped into a turbo 3.3L in 2012, I would probably be more than thrilled and not have the lust again for a V8.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I'm sure the next Genesis sedan will have this twin turbo V6 so just be patient. If you can... And I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way you do. You can have a big V8 and get bad gas mileage all the time - or a twin turbo V6 and get bad gas mileage ONLY when you're driving it hard. The rest of the time you're getting nice V6 gas mileage. It's as simple as staying OUT of boost...

Ditto, I am a car nut too. I intentionally chose the V6 this go-around because I was coming from a big engine, and I wanted a break from the horrible gas mileage and maintenance. Plus, I thought the power of the V6 would be adequate compared to my prior cars. The 3.8 looks good at a glance on paper, but it does not have the low-end torque to satisfy former big displacement engine people. I have a little buyer's remorse. However, if I had stepped into a turbo 3.3L in 2012, I would probably be more than thrilled and not have the lust again for a V8.