First issue with the Genesis today :-(

[Huddleston]

I tried to open the trunk with my remote.... nothing happened

I tried to open the trunk by using the button in the cabin... nothing happened

I can still access it using my key but this issue worries me. Seems very odd.

I just had the car in for maintenance and in addition to the oil change the car needed a new cabin air filter and they recommended cleaning the throttle bodies due to carbon build up. I sincerely hope this is not the beginning of electrical issues. Maybe its just a bad solenoid.

 

[4NJUNK]

Have you checked the valet button in the glove box? My husband shoved some stuff in there a couple of weeks ago and accidently hit the button and I had the same issue; trunk would only open (forcefully) with the key.

 

[jsmit86]

+1
Most likely they flipped the valet switch as they changed the air filter.

 

[GenesisAWD]

I wasn't aware of a "valet" button. What does it do other than not let anyone open the trunk?

 

[danygenesis]

Nothig else, is for not letting a valet parking to access to your trunk (and the stuff you have inside of it). Simple as that.

 

[Alwaysforward]

From the manual:

To reset the power trunk
If the battery has been discharged or
disconnected, or if the related fuse
has been replaced or disconnected,
reset the Power Trunk as follows:
1. Move the shift lever to the P (Park)
position.
2. Close the trunk manually.
If the Power Trunk doesn't work properly
after performing the above procedure,
have the system checked by
an authorized HYUNDAI dealer.

 

[Mark_888]

Nothig else, is for not letting a valet parking to access to your trunk (and the stuff you have inside of it). Simple as that.

Just to clarify, you switch off the trunk release inside the glove box, then lock the glove box with the physical key, and give the valet the key fob without the physical key. At that point, entry into the glove box and the trunk cannot be accomplished without the physical key. (We won't discuss the trunk pass-thru from the rear seat).

The only problem I have with that is without the physical key installed on the keyfob, there is no way to easily attach a tag or whatever onto the keyfob, such as repair shop or valet might do to identify your keyfob. I guess one could get a blank physical key for that situation.

 

[Alwaysforward]

... there is no way to easily attach a tag or whatever onto the keyfob, such as repair shop or valet might do to identify your keyfob. I guess one could get a blank physical key for that situation.

My Keyfob has a hole in it although I don't hook anything to it as I keep it in my watch pocket of my jeans or shorts.

 

[BigTree]

I tried to open the trunk with my remote.... nothing happened

I tried to open the trunk by using the button in the cabin... nothing happened

I can still access it using my key but this issue worries me. Seems very odd.

I just had the car in for maintenance and in addition to the oil change the car needed a new cabin air filter and they recommended cleaning the throttle bodies due to carbon build up. I sincerely hope this is not the beginning of electrical issues. Maybe its just a bad solenoid.

Did they charge you (and what did they charge?) to clean the throttle bodies or was it under warranty? How old is your car and how many miles so far? I ask because this is a significant potential issue if common to the V8 (or v6 for that matter). It has been a common problem with Audi direct injection engines. (Both Genesis engines are direct injection).

I experienced it in my '07 S6 and it was the final straw in getting rid of my all-time favorite car since the charge for cleaning the carbon out was +/- $1,500; and I would probably need to do it every year or so. But it was not unique to the V10 engine in the S6. Google it and you'll find it's common to all the Audi Direct Injection motors. I know there was even talk of a class-action because Audi owners who maintained their cars to exact Audi recommended specs (like me) were p.o'd about that $1,500!

The symptoms were that you would start noticing some drop off in performance, mileage and the cold idle would be rough. Some thought it was a result of not driving the car aggressively enough to give it the 'ol "Italian Tune Up". But even owners who claimed to drive very aggressively experienced the issues. In the Genesis case, I wonder if the recommended use of Regular fuel might exacerbate the condition.

Sorry for the long post, but the "carbon buildup" phrase in a relatively young car caught my eye and I thought it couldn't hurt to share my experience with you all.

 

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Do tell me why carbon build up is concerning you about electrical issues? carbon build up is a common thing with direct injected engines. The injectors do not spray over the intake valves such as they would in a port injected engine, and also the PVC system in a DI car typically blows more oil back into the intake side of the engine, hence the recommendation of a throttle body cleaning. Nothing electrical about that.

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Did they charge you (and what did they charge?) to clean the throttle bodies or was it under warranty? How old is your car and how many miles so far? I ask because this is a significant potential issue if common to the V8 (or v6 for that matter). It has been a common problem with Audi direct injection engines. (Both Genesis engines are direct injection).

I experienced it in my '07 S6 and it was the final straw in getting rid of my all-time favorite car since the charge for cleaning the carbon out was +/- $1,500; and I would probably need to do it every year or so. But it was not unique to the V10 engine in the S6. Google it and you'll find it's common to all the Audi Direct Injection motors. I know there was even talk of a class-action because Audi owners who maintained their cars to exact Audi recommended specs (like me) were p.o'd about that $1,500!

The symptoms were that you would start noticing some drop off in performance, mileage and the cold idle would be rough. Some thought it was a result of not driving the car aggressively enough to give it the 'ol "Italian Tune Up". But even owners who claimed to drive very aggressively experienced the issues. In the Genesis case, I wonder if the recommended use of Regular fuel might exacerbate the condition.

Sorry for the long post, but the "carbon buildup" phrase in a relatively young car caught my eye and I thought it couldn't hurt to share my experience with you all.

Not specific to Audi unfortunately, either. It's an inherent trait of Direct Injection engines. Toyota, when they came out with DI(And I think Nissan too), still had a dummy injector in the intake track that sprayed a small amount of fuel to keep carbon from building up on the valves.

Anyone who did not to that in their Direct Injection systems has built in the potential for fairly major carbon build up on the intake valves. And the high costs aren't Audi-specific either. My Mini Cooper S needed a carbon cleaning about once a year as well. If I were a regular customer and not a mechanic who could do it himself, the charge depending on dealership was about $800-1100. It's ridiculous how quickly they all jumped on DI before a major issue like that was ironed out. BTW, it's not a warranty-covered item either.

 

[BigTree]

I agree with your point about all DI engines. In the Audi case there were specific complaints that the architecture of the Audi GDI engines that exacerbated the problems. Some owners were successful in getting it covered under warranty but most were not especially if, like me, I didn't realized the extent of the issue until after the warranty expired.

I'd be interested in more detail from Huddleston since my sense is he'e probably an aggressive driver and if he already has the carbon problem, that does not bode well for the more typical driver. In the meantime, I intend to go give my V6 an Italian tune up today!

 

[srobak]

My Keyfob has a hole in it

That hole is attached to/part of the physical key (push the silver button while pulling outward on the hole) - which is what you remove and keep after you lock your glove box, having had disabled the trunk release.

 

[Huddleston]

Do tell me why carbon build up is concerning you about electrical issues? carbon build up is a common thing with direct injected engines. The injectors do not spray over the intake valves such as they would in a port injected engine, and also the PVC system in a DI car typically blows more oil back into the intake side of the engine, hence the recommendation of a throttle body cleaning. Nothing electrical about that.

the two issues have absolutely nothing to do with each other. My statement regarding electrical issues was just related to the trunk. My point in bringing up the cabin air filter and the carbon was simply to share that the car had been in for maintenance before I started having the issue.

I am well aware on the mechanical implications of direct injection.

 

[Huddleston]

I agree with your point about all DI engines. In the Audi case there were specific complaints that the architecture of the Audi GDI engines that exacerbated the problems. Some owners were successful in getting it covered under warranty but most were not especially if, like me, I didn't realized the extent of the issue until after the warranty expired.

I'd be interested in more detail from Huddleston since my sense is he'e probably an aggressive driver and if he already has the carbon problem, that does not bode well for the more typical driver. In the meantime, I intend to go give my V6 an Italian tune up today!

I bought mine in June of 2015. It currently has 22k on it. With all the rallies and the long distance events I participate in I am sure mine is driven harder than most.

 

[Huddleston]

I cleaned out the throttle bodies at 15k after the a NY to Vegas run. the carbon building up again after 7k is not what I'd like to see. I'll keep the car for a while longer and then i'll be on to something else, for now it is serving its intended purpose very well for a rally vehicle.

 

[Mark_888]

My Keyfob has a hole in it although I don't hook anything to it as I keep it in my watch pocket of my jeans or shorts.

I was think more of a valet or repair shop that would want to attach something to your keyfob, like a claim ticket or something.

 

[jsmit86]

Huddleston-

did you get a chance to check the Valet switch in the glove box? I had the exact same issue pop up on my Azera after a cabin filter replacement. Once I flipped that switch, all was good.

 

[MikeyTG]

How does carbon build up on the throttle body when the fuel is directly injected into the cylinders? Sounds like a pure money maker for the dealer to me.

 

[kn5owa]

Huddleston-

did you get a chance to check the Valet switch in the glove box? I had the exact same issue pop up on my Azera after a cabin filter replacement. Once I flipped that switch, all was good.

Anytime my car is in the shop, I have to check & debug it later.

One time, they slipped in a little 100 pt. "safety check" trying to make some money. When I got the car home, half a dozen things were screwed up - including a 1/2 dozen loose lug nuts - not even finger tight.