From a '12 R Spec to a '15 5.0

[Alwaysforward]

I am sure you got the free trail on the Bluelink. If so, try the Goggle Search function on the mirror. It blows aways the Genesis voice command function. It is worth having Bluelink just for that feature alone. Also you can access the manual inside the NAV system. It has everything that you get with the 3" thick paper manuals that came with the car.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Yes, the regular bluelink is free for a year. The enhanced features like remote start and such from your phone is free for 3 months, then you have to pay for it. AND when you sign up for the 3 month free trial, you have to give them your CC number. No Thanks.

Bluelink is basically the same as Chevys OnStar. I didn't renew it when the free trial ran out either. Wasn't worth it in my opinion to pay for a monthly report that told me everything I already knew about my car.

 

[Mark_888]

Yes, the regular bluelink is free for a year. The enhanced features like remote start and such from your phone is free for 3 months, then you have to pay for it. AND when you sign up for the 3 month free trial, you have to give them your CC.

Remote car start is most useful in places with extremely cold weather and snow. I don't think you will miss it in SoCal.

 

[Aquineas]

Remote car start is most useful in places with extremely cold weather and snow. I don't think you will miss it in SoCal.

?? I use mine all the time in warm weather.

 

[Mark_888]

?? I use mine all the time in warm weather.

You use it because you have it. But even then, it is usually a lot hotter where you live than in the Southern California. But I would also assume that people who live where it gets pretty hot, and park outdoors a lot, get after-market tinting.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

It gets hot in Socal. Last year it hit 105 at work on the water front.

The car will spend about 80% of it's nights in the garage so yes, a remote start may not be needed. But when I'm out in town on a hot day, it would be nice to be able to start it and cool it down before I get in. Just don't understand why I have to pay extra for that feature.

And from looking at the Bluelink manual last night, the reason they want your CC number is after the 3 month free trial period, it's an automatic renewal which means they will automatically charge your card.

Not something I prefer to have happen. So I'll deal with not having it. Though I don't understand why a luxury car like this doesn't have it as a standard feature when a lot of lesser cars do.

But I do love the car so far and will deal with the minor annoyance. Too many improvements over the 1st gen to worry about this.

 

[Midnightsun]

It gets hot in Socal. Last year it hit 105 at work on the water front.

The car will spend about 80% of it's nights in the garage so yes, a remote start may not be needed. But when I'm out in town on a hot day, it would be nice to be able to start it and cool it down before I get in. Just don't understand why I have to pay extra for that feature.

And from looking at the Bluelink manual last night, the reason they want your CC number is after the 3 month free trial period, it's an automatic renewal which means they will automatically charge your card.

Not something I prefer to have happen. So I'll deal with not having it. Though I don't understand why a luxury car like this doesn't have it as a standard feature when a lot of lesser cars do.

But I do love the car so far and will deal with the minor annoyance. Too many improvements over the 1st gen to worry about this.

Anything that communicates remotely is a cellular device so someone has to pay for this service which ends up at to the provider. The provider (maybe AT&T) needs to get paid so yes you need to pay for this if you want to use it past the grace period just like XM radio.

I do agree though, Hyundai is overcharging and making too much profit off of this feature. I have an after market unit for starting my Genesis remotely and the "basic" fee is $50/year which is all you really need (see link) . If you purchase a 3 year plan this drops to $40/year. http://www.dronemobile.com/plans.html No reason why Hyundai cannot charge similar prices if competition can.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

My questions though is why did my '08 Pontiac G8 have a remote start in the key fob that didn't cost me a cent to use? The viper alarm on my '04 Chevy truck is the same. So why cant Hyundai do the same?
There's more ways to do it than thru cellular that won't cost a cent.

And with the Viper alarm, it let's me know when the truck is tampered with, again at no extra cost. Just a beep on the remote and what happened.

 

[Mark_888]

My questions though is why did my '08 Pontiac G8 have a remote start in the key fob that didn't cost me a cent to use? The viper alarm on my '04 Chevy truck is the same. So why cant Hyundai do the same?
There's more ways to do it than thru cellular that won't cost a cent.

And with the Viper alarm, it let's me know when the truck is tampered with, again at no extra cost. Just a beep on the remote and what happened.

Most people who want to remote start a car in extremely cold weather are not going to be in range of the car when that happens. They need something with cellular access, and that costs money.

 

[Rey]

Shellback,
I think your oil consumption will be much less than your '12 RSpec (I had one also). Hyundai had serious blow-by problems, which were not so serious as to call for motor replacement under warranty.
My '14 Equus and your Genesis have the "cure". Recent 8000 mile trip on the Equus had oil consumption of less than a pint.

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[Midnightsun]

Most people who want to remote start a car in extremely cold weather are not going to be in range of the car when that happens. They need something with cellular access, and that costs money.

Exactly, I travel a lot and when I land I like to start my car so it is warm when I get to it so starting it from the terminal is a no go with a fob unit.

You can always have a plain jane fob style unit installed which have no monthly fees attached however I see your point since the remote start feature is already there. Sure would have been nice for them to include a fob, no fee option.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Glad to hear Rey. I remember the oil issues with the first gens and I tried to keep an eye on it. I was using about 1 1/2 qts between oil changes. Seems that the later ones didn't have the issues.
I'll be keeping an eye on it though to make sure.

As for remote starts, both of my FOBs worked out to about 50 yards. So I could be sitting in a restaurant and start the car as we were paying the tab and getting ready to leave so it would be the right temp when we got in.

But I'm sure I'll be fine without it. The R Spec didn't have it and I survived.

 

[Alwaysforward]

Originally Posted by Mark_888 View Post
Remote car start is most useful in places with extremely cold weather and snow. I don't think you will miss it in SoCal.

?? I use mine all the time in warm weather.

My too. It is nice hopping into a cool car in the summer time.

 

[Midnightsun]

Originally Posted by Mark_888 View Post
Remote car start is most useful in places with extremely cold weather and snow. I don't think you will miss it in SoCal.




My too. It is nice hopping into a cool car in the summer time.

Nothing like sitting on the boat at the marina and firing up the AC when leaving after the car has been baking in the sun for the entire day. Yes we have hot weather in Canada too.

 

[Jaeger]

Not a fan of remote start at all. Just wasteful, in my view. Burning gas going absolutely nowhere. My cars heat up or cool down just fine after startup. YMMV.

 

[XPO439]

I downloaded the Bluelink app, no good. It takes multiple attempts to start the car. Also, the car only stays on for 10 minutes, then shuts off. My 300S, which has remote start standard, stays on until I turn it off by remote key fob.

Remote start can be useful to warm up your engine/oil, unless you're one of those people who ignites the engine and floors it right after (like most I've witness). It's also a cool feature to impress your friends, or scare the the occasional looky louies.

This system already failed me, so I will not be subscribing. I'm speaking on my personal experience, others may differ.

 

[Mark_888]

Nothing like sitting on the boat at the marina and firing up the AC when leaving after the car has been baking in the sun for the entire day. Yes we have hot weather in Canada too.

The secret is to get a high quality tint (ceramic) and to use a windshield reflector. I live in a very warm climate and my car cools down quickly with the these.

 

[jda8]

Crusty Old Shellback (the original poster in this thread): do you find your '15 5.0 faster, slower, or just the same as your R-Spec? From what I've read, the R-Spec was a tad bit faster 0-60. Do you notice any performance differences?

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Now that I've had it for a while, I think it's actually quicker. The larger tires give more grip so I can get the power to the road better.

With my R Spec, it seems that I was always traction limited. Even with 2 different brand's of summer tires. The traction control kicked in a lot on hard launches. Not so much with the '15.

I did have an interesting adventure the other day with it. Was doing about 75 and went to pass a Semi and need to accelerate to get in front of him before the lane ended. Dry road conditions. nailed it and wasn't going anywhere. Then I realized that The back end had broken loose at 80 and TC had kicked in. Never had that happen in the R spec.

Just took a 1000 mile road trip in her. 27.4 MPG on the highway at 75 MPH. More comfortable ride than the R spec. Life was good.

And to Rey,

Been keeping an eye on the oil consumption. So far, so good. Only about 1/2 Qt low since checking it at the dealer after the first oil change at 500 miles. It went down fairly fast the first 500 miles after the oil change but has since stayed steady, so I don't think it's an issue any more. Gonna check it today when I get home. has about 2500 miles on it since the oil change.