G70 aftermarket brake pads

[blnewto]

It used to be that semi-metallic compounds are the go-to for high performance brake pads. While this is still true to some degree, there are now organic compounds that make excellent performance brake pads. More and more, brake mfrs are moving away from metallic content in brake pads, for environmental reasons. Metals traditionally used in brake pads, like copper, can be harmful to the environment. Plus metallic brake dust can be corrosive on painted finishes. Not to mention they can be noisy and hard on brake rotors.

There are still applications where I prefer brake pads with a good bit of metallic content. Motorcycles is a good example. They typically use stainless steel rotors, which is a high chromium/nickel alloy that resist wear much better. Plus, when I'm rolling on two small contact patches, ultimate performance trumps every other consideration.

With the soft cast iron rotors on cars/trucks, I prefer high-quality organic pads. The one downside is that they do tend to wear faster. However, compared to what I see most the guys here are willing to pay for gumshoe tires that last barely 15k miles, a good set of brake pads is a far better investment. I would much rather spend $350 on a set of excellent brake pad, than to obsess over what $1200/set of street tires have the best performance.

Nice posting,
I think I'm going to give those low-metallics a try (assuming I still have the stock pads), hopefully they'll keep the advantages of a semi-metallic without some of the cons, we'll see Price seems very good at about $100 for the pads-only.

 

[BionicMan]

Hey guys, after reading the most recent 10 pages of this thread, I'm curious if anyone has tried Brake Performance on their Brembo equipped G70. This company sells rotors, pads, and complete brake kits for our vehicles. I've used this company for over a decade on three separate applications and have always been very pleased with them.

Personally, I bought my G70 3.3T AWD Sport Prestige brand new, and I had the well documented brake shutter by 1,500 miles. Now at 6,000 miles, I can't tell the difference between braking and driving over a rumble strip, it's ridiculous. I'm not inclined to drive an hour to the closest Genesis dealership and argue with them over a warranty claim, so I'm thinking about just throwing new rotors and pads at it. Perhaps I'll be the guinea pig for these on a G70 . . .

Slotted Brake Pad and Rotor Kit - Premium Brake Kit

Slotted brake rotors have always been a great alternative for improving braking without the drilled holes. Brake Performance created this kit to give improved stopping power over factory rotors while reducing heat, noise, pad fade and brake dust. Each brake rotor consists of curved slots...

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[Husky]

You're right, it's a waste of time going to the dealer, because they aren't going to do anything that fixes it (long term). Pretty sad.
You have to bite the bullet and buy better pads (and at this point maybe rotors, or get them turned) yourself.
I'm not familiar with that company, I'll have to keep them in mind.

 

[blnewt]

Hey guys, after reading the most recent 10 pages of this thread, I'm curious if anyone has tried Brake Performance on their Brembo equipped G70. This company sells rotors, pads, and complete brake kits for our vehicles. I've used this company for over a decade on three separate applications and have always been very pleased with them.

Personally, I bought my G70 3.3T AWD Sport Prestige brand new, and I had the well documented brake shutter by 1,500 miles. Now at 6,000 miles, I can't tell the difference between braking and driving over a rumble strip, it's ridiculous. I'm not inclined to drive an hour to the closest Genesis dealership and argue with them over a warranty claim, so I'm thinking about just throwing new rotors and pads at it. Perhaps I'll be the guinea pig for these on a G70 . . .

Slotted Brake Pad and Rotor Kit - Premium Brake Kit

Slotted brake rotors have always been a great alternative for improving braking without the drilled holes. Brake Performance created this kit to give improved stopping power over factory rotors while reducing heat, noise, pad fade and brake dust. Each brake rotor consists of curved slots...

brakeperformance.com

I had their slotted & drilled rotors w/ Stoptech pads on our Infiniti G and they worked well. Haven't used their pads so can't comment on those. I also saw these on R1 sets Rockauto.com for the Brembo-equipped Stingers, not sure why they aren't on the G70 section too, but they should work just fine AFAIK on our Gs. Look to be a decent deal.

2020 KIA STINGER 3.3L V6 Turbocharged Brake & Wheel Hub Parts | RockAuto

RockAuto ships auto parts and body parts from over 300 manufacturers to customers' doors worldwide, all at warehouse prices. Easy to use parts catalog.

www.rockauto.com

Scroll down a bit to the Premium section and you'll see these for $479.79
R1 CONCEPTS WGUH221011

 

[Volfy]

Unless you've driven the car hard in those 6000 mile, more than likely new rotors are not necessary, unless you just want them replaced.

Let us know how they work out for you. Always good to have another data point.

 

[joegold100]

I have 2019 Genesis G70 AWD 3.3T Sport with 47,000k miles on it and the front brakes and rotors need replacing. I contacted the local dealer 4 weeks ago to get a price on the pads and rotors and was told they were $490 for 4 pads. I called to order the pads today and now they are telling me the cost is $841 for the same 4 pads. I tried to explain they quoted me 1/2 that 4 weeks ago and something was wrong but its like talking to a wall. So I decided to call a different Genesis dealer in a neighboring state and they told me $897 for 4 pads. However, when I search my VIN online with companies offering Genesis OEM parts the cost is around $420. What I'm trying to figure out is how the price of these pads increased to 50% nearly overnight. Not to mention $900 for (4) brake pads??? $490 was an insane price to being with, but now $900 what the hell is going on here?

 

[Bhavie]

I have 2019 Genesis G70 AWD 3.3T Sport with 47,000k miles on it and the front brakes and rotors need replacing. I contacted the local dealer 4 weeks ago to get a price on the pads and rotors and was told they were $490 for 4 pads. I called to order the pads today and now they are telling me the cost is $841 for the same 4 pads. I tried to explain they quoted me 1/2 that 4 weeks ago and something was wrong but its like talking to a wall. So I decided to call a different Genesis dealer in a neighboring state and they told me $897 for 4 pads. However, when I search my VIN online with companies offering Genesis OEM parts the cost is around $420. What I'm trying to figure out is how the price of these pads increased to 50% nearly overnight. Not to mention $900 for (4) brake pads??? $490 was an insane price to being with, but now $900 what the hell is going on here?

Wait until you get a quote for the rotors (!)

Just buy aftermarket pads and rotors from Rockauto. I believe they have OEM replacement options too. Will be way cheaper than the dealer.

Take them to the dealer and ask them to complete the service. If you go to an independent shop, make sure to confirm they have the tool to put the car in brake service mode, as our cars need that.

 

[ejguillot]

Wait until you get a quote for the rotors (!)

Just buy aftermarket pads and rotors from Rockauto. I believe they have OEM replacement options too. Will be way cheaper than the dealer.

Take them to the dealer and ask them to complete the service. If you go to an independent shop, make sure to confirm they have the tool to put the car in brake service mode, as our cars need that.

Even better, if you have the ability to DIY and have another mode of transportation:

Order a set of aftermarket pads (EBC or Hawk Performance), and once they’re in:
Get the car on a lift, all 4 tires off, remove pads, calipers, and rotors.
Get the rotors resurfaced (Oreilly Auto Parts does, for $25 each)
Reinstall newly resurfaced rotors, calipers, and new pads (verify everything is tightened to spec!)
Reinstall tires, car on ground, take for a test drive and follow pad maker’s bedding in procedure

Done, and for a LOT less money and hassle than the dealership.

Here’s a Youtube video that shows what you have to do (AMG brakes are Brembos, the procedure applies):

 

[joegold100]

Wait until you get a quote for the rotors (!)

Just buy aftermarket pads and rotors from Rockauto. I believe they have OEM replacement options too. Will be way cheaper than the dealer.

Take them to the dealer and ask them to complete the service. If you go to an independent shop, make sure to confirm they have the tool to put the car in brake service mode, as our cars need that.

Hi Bhavie... well that's kind of the problem. I was going to let a local repair shop do the front brakes as long as they used OEM parts. I think they wanted $900 with OEM pads and rotors. When I called to schedule the service today they called me back when they went to order the parts and then told me the price of the pads increased 50%. So that's when I called the dealerships and got the shock on the pads. I told the local shop I would buy the pads and rotors online but they won't allow me to supply parts. Now your telling me I need a place that needs a special tool as well. What a mess...

 

[Husky]

No special tool needed for the front brakes. If they need a tool for the rears, I think any shop that does brakes will have it. (There may even be a service mode you can get into that doesn't require a "special" tool, I forget.)
I would definitely NOT put factory pads on, unless you want to deal with brake shudder. Aftermarket pads are also much cheaper. The dealer prices are insane.

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[ejguillot]

Hi Bhavie... well that's kind of the problem. I was going to let a local repair shop do the front brakes as long as they used OEM parts. I think they wanted $900 with OEM pads and rotors. When I called to schedule the service today they called me back when they went to order the parts and then told me the price of the pads increased 50%. So that's when I called the dealerships and got the shock on the pads. I told the local shop I would buy the pads and rotors online but they won't allow me to supply parts. Now your telling me I need a place that needs a special tool as well. What a mess...

@Bhavie What service mode are you referring to? I installed Hawk Performance HPS 5.0 pads on my G70 (with Brembos) on all 4 corners and didn't have to trigger any service mode. Been a year and no issues.

Some cars squeeze the rear caliper to apply the parking brake, the G70 does not. It has the old school miniature drum brake setup inside the rotor for the parking brake function, electronically actuated. I made sure the parking brake was released after the car was on jackstands, tires off, old pads out, pushed the pistons back into the bores, removed the calipers, and finally removed the rotors. No issues at all removing the rotors. Resurfaced the rotors myself with a sander (per the Hawk Performance pad install instructions), reinstalled the rotors then calipers, slid new pads in, then put the tires back on. Test drive with the bed in process Hawk specified, and was good to go.

That was a year ago, no issues with brakes since! Pads all around were less than $300.

 

[Bhavie]

Yea I had a brain fart. Our cars have a service mode to bleed the brake lines, not for a pad and rotor change.

It's just sometimes those are done together so that's why I mentioned it!

 

[ejguillot]

Yea I had a brain fart. Our cars have a service mode to bleed the brake lines, not for a pad and rotor change.

It's just sometimes those are done together so that's why I mentioned it!

Excellent point. Bleeding the brakes and replacing the fluid does require the service mode to get all of the fluid out (from the ABS pump and such), you can get most of it out with a traditional brake bleed. Most decent diagnostic modules (TopDon Topscan is one, I have one and will verify) have the ability to trigger the brake bleed service mode.

And right after new pad install is a great time to do the brake fluid change out. It doesn't last forever, for example Audi mandates a change interval of every 2 years.

 

[Bhavie]

Excellent point. Bleeding the brakes and replacing the fluid does require the service mode to get all of the fluid out (from the ABS pump and such), you can get most of it out with a traditional brake bleed. Most decent diagnostic modules (TopDon Topscan is one, I have one and will verify) have the ability to trigger the brake bleed service mode.

And right after new pad install is a great time to do the brake fluid change out. It doesn't last forever, for example Audi mandates a change interval of every 2 years.

Question - how come you just resurfaced your rotors instead of replacing them?

Thought we needed to replace these rotors, and they have roughly 80km life?

 

[Bhavie]

Hi Bhavie... well that's kind of the problem. I was going to let a local repair shop do the front brakes as long as they used OEM parts. I think they wanted $900 with OEM pads and rotors. When I called to schedule the service today they called me back when they went to order the parts and then told me the price of the pads increased 50%. So that's when I called the dealerships and got the shock on the pads. I told the local shop I would buy the pads and rotors online but they won't allow me to supply parts. Now your telling me I need a place that needs a special tool as well. What a mess...

Just get aftermarket pads .

Like Husky said, they're better than OEMs. My rotors are stock but I have aftermarket pads as I was tired of the brake shudder and taking it to the dealer to have it fixed multiple times.

 

[ejguillot]

Question - how come you just resurfaced your rotors instead of replacing them?

Thought we needed to replace these rotors, and they have roughly 80km life?

The rotors had plenty of life left in them (way above minimum thickness), I had the brake shudder from the factory pads, so out they went and the HPS 5.0 pads went in. Sanding down the rotors for a resurface was the procedure in the pad install instructions, used a DA sander with 220 grit sandpaper (1 6" sheet per rotor side, so 8 total). Worked a treat, haven't had shudder since.

 

[Phastroh]

I have 2019 Genesis G70 AWD 3.3T Sport with 47,000k miles on it and the front brakes and rotors need replacing. I contacted the local dealer 4 weeks ago to get a price on the pads and rotors and was told they were $490 for 4 pads. I called to order the pads today and now they are telling me the cost is $841 for the same 4 pads. I tried to explain they quoted me 1/2 that 4 weeks ago and something was wrong but its like talking to a wall. So I decided to call a different Genesis dealer in a neighboring state and they told me $897 for 4 pads. However, when I search my VIN online with companies offering Genesis OEM parts the cost is around $420. What I'm trying to figure out is how the price of these pads increased to 50% nearly overnight. Not to mention $900 for (4) brake pads??? $490 was an insane price to being with, but now $900 what the hell is going on here?

I bought my R1 Concept rotors off Amazon open box for peanuts and ordered red stuff pads. Install a breeze, looks and stops way above stock. Best thing try to get a package deal which you can find way less. I did not bleed my brakes and no issues however you are supposed to do I'll have a shop one day.

 

[joegold100]

For you guys recommending Hawk Performance HPS 5.0 pads, I went to their website and they don't even make/offer pads for any 2019-2022 Genesis G70... here is their website Parts Lookup page ...

I check another place called HawkPadsDirect: Hawk Brake Pads, Hawk Race Pads, Discount Hawk Performance Brakes and they also don't list anything for the G70....

So I'm really confused on what you put on your cars...

UPDATE: I found a local repair shop that is an authorized EBC dealer. He order EBC Yellowstuff Front Pads but there were no cross drilled EBC rotors currently available. So we had to order standard EBC rotors. There was actually an EBC package with those pads and rotors for $386.66 + tax. So hopefully, these will work. I will update here once they are installed....

 

[blnewto]

For you guys recommending Hawk Performance HPS 5.0 pads, I went to their website and they don't even make/offer pads for any 2019-2022 Genesis G70... here is their website Parts Lookup page ...

I check another place called HawkPadsDirect: Hawk Brake Pads, Hawk Race Pads, Discount Hawk Performance Brakes and they also don't list anything for the G70....

So I'm really confused on what you put on your cars...

UPDATE: I found a local repair shop that is an authorized EBC dealer. He order EBC Yellowstuff Front Pads but there were no cross drilled EBC rotors currently available. So we had to order standard EBC rotors. There was actually an EBC package with those pads and rotors for $386.66 + tax. So hopefully, these will work. I will update here once they are installed....

IIRC I think you have to use the Stinger as the vehicle.

 

[19 G70 3.3T]

Try looking them up for a Stinger instead. For some reason the G70 gets left out of a lot of catalogs.

Hawk Performance Brakes for 2019 Kia Stinger - w/6 Cyl Engine