Genesis 3.8 vs. Chrysler 300 3.6

[Aquineas]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/29/...12-chrysler-300s-comparison-review/#continued

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

If a sportswriter made this argument about whether a baseball player should be in the Hall of Fame I'd laugh out loud. "Guts" and "instincts" don't cut it anymore in that world, should auto reviewers still be allowed to judge on those measures?

"Before our long day behind the wheel, most felt the Genesis was going to take home the trophy. However, after a couple hours of discussion and reviewing notes, all three of us put the Chrysler 300S at the top. The decision wasn't based on sticker price (a mere $1,280 separates the two) or performance (the Hyundai wins that round) but on our gut feelings.

Editor Phillips summed it up well, "The 300S simply makes that connection better with its bold exterior styling and beautiful interior. It's comfortable, smooth and quiet, and you're going to look good driving it. Plus, the stereo rocks." It all boiled down to emotion – that intangible, yet important, criteria most buyers rely on before writing that final big check."

 

[EXBMWGUY]

The real gut check is when you've owned the car out of warranty, which none of the auto magazine contributing editors do.

 

[homeofstone]

I just had a 300 for three weeks as a rental. The car's stereo is terrible, The dash instruments are hard to read at a glance, The transmission in the 300 moans and groans when shifting during quick starts. Can't see out of the car well, lots of blind spots. Weird spot for gas tank door opener.

 

[Aquineas]

The real gut check is when you've owned the car out of warranty, which none of the auto magazine contributing editors do.

Agreed. Drunk employees, anyone?

 

[Ruissimo]

The entire Chrysler group is consistently at the bottom of the reliability list... year after year.

That is a more than solid reason to not even consider the 300.

And the looks? No thanks.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

I'm with you guys. I have no clue how they think the new 300 looks better than the genney. Hell the old 300 I thought looked better than the new body style.
Guess I don't watch enough Hip Hop or Rap videos. Seems that's all they want to drive. Around here, almost everyone has one. No thanks, I'll be a little different.

 

[Gambler]

The 300 I drove had one thing going for it, it was QUIET. The Genesis is quiet, but the 300 is quieter. Still the seats were the worst seats of any vehicle I've driven EVER. That includes some pretty crappy old cars.

 

[homeofstone]

The 300 I drove had one thing going for it, it was QUIET. The Genesis is quiet, but the 300 is quieter. Still the seats were the worst seats of any vehicle I've driven EVER. That includes some pretty crappy old cars.

The one I drove was not quieter. Way too much engine noise, exhaust noise, transmission shift noise and tire noise. The 300 I drove as a rental was a 2011 with less than 11,000 miles on it. The wind noise may have been less but that's about it. Oh, and a the paint job was bad, lots of orange peel which really showed up as the car was black. My wife even asked me why the paint on the 300 was not smooth.

 

[Ruissimo]

Hell the old 300 I thought looked better than the new body style.

COMPLETELY AGREE!

My wife's uncle has one of the original 300's in black, and keeps it pristine. LOVE THAT CAR.

Still think the Genny is nicer-looking, but the 300 redesign just made it look cheaper, and gave it a weird angle in the back (and terrible grill design in the front).

And a quiet cabin is good and all... but if you don't have a Lexicon sound system in it... what's the point?

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[YEH]

Really won't matter for much longer since a new Genesis is around the corner.

But still, it's a bit amusing how auto reviewers can come to such different conclusions.

In the Autoblog review, while the Genesis was the sportier drive, they felt that the 300 had a more composed ride.

However, in the Automobile comparison...

Behind the Wheel

These sedans are far from sports cars, as they prioritize occupant comfort over corner carving. But the Hyundai Genesis still imparts some fun to the driver, and feels lithe when asked to navigate twisting roads. Upgrades for 2012 include beefier brakes and firmer anti-roll bars, making it a willing companion for enthusiastic driving. The Hyundai’s steering provides a decent amount of weight and feedback for this car’s class. The Genesis’ suspension strikes a balance between that of the Toyota and the Chrysler, providing more insulation than the 300 from road imperfections yet a slightly firmer ride than the Avalon.

The Chrysler 300 feels solid and composed on the road. Its firm suspension and wide tires (the widest of this trio) keep the car under control, along with strong brakes and decent feel from the chunky steering wheel. While its handling responses are respectable, the Chrysler’s weight precludes it from feeling as energetic as the Hyundai. Although the ride is generally pleasant, it can be jarring over severe bumps and doesn’t feel quite as settled as the Toyota. The 300 also admits the most road and wind noise to the cabin.


And The Winner Is...

In spite of their many similarities, each of these sedans excels in a different area. The Hyundai’s enthusiastic performance, precise handling, and understated exterior provide the best combination of sportiness and refinement. It’s our choice in this group. Think of the Genesis as a cut-price Mercedes-Benz or BMW.

Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/review...ota_avalon_limited/viewall.html#ixzz1ntvYvRuz

 

[CARguyJ]

I've owned two Chrysler cars from 2000 until recently when I traded a Dodge Magnum with 99,000 miles on my Genesis. They were good cars when new until about 50,000 miles when they started to fall apart. Overall though, the average cost of $2,500 (not including expenses & repairs) per year to own was pretty darn good. IMHO, the Genesis is way better made and much more fun to drive....

 

[2012blackgenny]

Autoblog is just kinda of bad I've found, I mean CR is boring but at least they focus on one target group of people.

I think the 300's interior is better due to being a lot newer designed and it has more distinct styling but I'm totally not convinced in Chrysler's reliability.

 

[Zerkfitting]

I put 140k miles on a 2000 Chrysler 300m and it was a very reliable car. I looked at the new model and the exterior styling is good (I still like the 300m styling). But I prefer the interior of the Genesis.

BTW I get the same millage with the Genesis 4.6 V8 as I did with the Chrysler 3.5 V6.

 

[Jimmmmbo!]

I still wonder about those of us consumers who want a great ride without paying well over $35G MSRP for it.

After renting a 300 in CA for 10 days, I couldn't wait to get back into my base Genesis. Both cars are very similar in content and resulting price. But the Genesis "drives" much better.

I actually found the 300 (with about 8000 miles on it) to have a lot of tire noise. As is typical with American cars, they likely add more insulation when you get upgraded packages, which the rental 300 lacked.

As for interior appeal: One man's junk is another man's treasure. I hated the interior of the 300. Too claustrophobic and too many touchscreen virtual buttons. I don't want to be distracted trying to hit a touchscreen while I'm driving to adjust climate controls manually. Sticks in my craw. Oh, and the shifter absolutely sucks. It's very, very difficult to get it into the gear or park consistently.

See here for more info on my experience if you're interested:
http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=9649

 

[marty5marty]

My coworkers convinced me not to get the 300....which I am glad i didn't because i fell in love with the genny....not that i hate the 300 but now that i see it next to each other in person on the streets....no doubt i made the right choice!

 

[QuantumRift]

300 looks like a swollen pig next to the Genny.

 

[marty5marty]

Hahaha i was reading at the 300C forum about our gennys.......geez what a hate!

one of their quotes that made me laugh

"Now that just about everything has gawdy L.E.D's to look more like an Audi, you can't help but, look at the R-Spec. Thing is, they spent so much time ripping off Lexus and Mercedes design's, at a distance, you won't know whether you are looking at an S-class or an LS.

this car is ugly.

The winged badge on the hood HAS TO GO.
The R-Spec badge doesn't look as cool as the SRT8 badge.
The grill is UGLY and HAS TO GO.

this is one car I'd have to black out if I owned it. I'd get a mesh grill and remove ALL OF THE LOGOS

Even then I wouldn't feel "proud" driving it."


lololol

 

[Ruissimo]

this is one car i'd have to black out if i owned it. I'd get a mesh grill and remove all of the logos

even then i wouldn't feel "proud" driving it."


lololol

Dey see me rollin'... Dey hatin'....

There's no accounting for taste. And I would know - that's what I do for a living.

Accounting. Not tasting.

 

[G-393097]

The entire Chrysler group is consistently at the bottom of the reliability list... year after year.

That is a more than solid reason to not even consider the 300.

And the looks? No thanks.

I've had a 2014 Chrysler 300 v6 AWD for 7 years and my engine light never came on and never had any major mechanical problems. My impression of the reliability of the car is one of the best. I just picked up a 2017 Genesis u hope treats me just as well maybe even better.