Genesis Brand Vision Announcement!

[Slip_Angle]

• All new vehicle launches from 2025 will be electric only
• All Genesis vehicles will be electric from 2030 onward
• Carbon neutral by 2035

 

[Alfer]

This will end up a total cluster. Imagine having an electric vehicle in LA right about now.

 

[audioholic]

They should have two lanes: Electric and V8

That's what Lexus is doing.

 

[MrMegadeth]

Does electric mean pure electric? One could argue that the Acura NSX is "electric"

 

[Jake_in_Nashville]

Plan to trade in my 2021 gv80 for a 2024 model. The US market will not be ready for EVs in many locations by 2025.

 

[PMCErnie]

Louisiana, after the hurricane. California, after the decimating fires. Would you prefer to own an electric vehicle, or an ICE (gasoline) vehicle?

 

[Richard Mississauga]

Louisiana, after the hurricane. California, after the decimating fires. Would you prefer to own an electric vehicle, or an ICE (gasoline) vehicle?

Just where in New Orleans are you going to buy gas right now? I have family there, they have both a gas vehicle and an electric. Both are in trouble right now, no advantage either way.

 

[Alfer]

Louisiana, after the hurricane. California, after the decimating fires. Would you prefer to own an electric vehicle, or an ICE (gasoline) vehicle?

I'll opt for gas cars any day of the week.

 

[Richard Mississauga]

Perhaps you gentlemen are not aware that gasoline pumps are electrically powered?

 

[EdP]

Perhaps you gentlemen are not aware that gasoline pumps are electrically powered?

In some hurricane areas the stations are required to have generators. Not that it matters much, the new last night showed a line of car about a mile longs. You would think they would fill up the day or two before, not after a major storm.

People can be incredibly stupid with lack of preperation.

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[Richard Mississauga]

In some hurricane areas the stations are required to have generators. Not that it matters much, the new last night showed a line of car about a mile longs. You would think they would fill up the day or two before, not after a major storm.

People can be incredibly stupid with lack of preperation.

Yup. Florida did this after Hurricane Wilma - I was there. And in subsequent Florida storms, the same huge gas lines appeared anyway -- along with price gouging and people selling bottles of water to those in line for $5 a pop. Sigh

 

[Slip_Angle]

Well, I like the move to electric. When ICE vehicle were first being produced they were terrible and unreliable. With so many OEMs jumping on the bandwagon, the charging infrastructure will pop up fast.

Like any big change, many won't like it at first and then love it later. Do you want to go back to film cameras or VCR tapes?

 

[joegr]

In some hurricane areas the stations are required to have generators. Not that it matters much, the new last night showed a line of car about a mile longs. You would think they would fill up the day or two before, not after a major storm.

People can be incredibly stupid with lack of preperation.

A lot of these people did fill up before the hurricane. They drove a hundreds of miles to find a hotel or whatever to stay at and have now drove hundreds of miles back to see what is left of their houses. Many have that same trip to make again, as they found their houses gone or badly damaged, or without water and electricity. They have needed to refill their gas tanks. They are crowding the gas stations here, because they can't get it there. We understand this, rather than just assuming they are stupid.

I rode out Katrina here. We filled up our cars and all our gas cans (generator) before it hit. Guess what, in the two weeks after with no electricity and local gas stations only allowing five gallons at a time, we had to wait in line for gasoline too. What we could store was not enough to keep the generator going for at least 18 hours a day for two weeks.

 

[EdP]

A lot of these people did fill up before the hurricane. They drove a hundreds of miles to find a hotel or whatever to stay at and have now drove hundreds of miles back to see what is left of their houses. Many have that same trip to make again, as they found their houses gone or badly damaged, or without water and electricity. They have needed to refill their gas tanks. They are crowding the gas stations here, because they can't get it there. We understand this, rather than just assuming they are stupid.

I rode out Katrina here. We filled up our cars and all our gas cans (generator) before it hit. Guess what, in the two weeks after with no electricity and local gas stations only allowing five gallons at a time, we had to wait in line for gasoline too. What we could store was not enough to keep the generator going for at least 18 hours a day for two weeks.

Understood some time after but one day after if they drove some distance they should have filled up on the way back. Sorry, still poor planning. It was not a few people, it was hundreds in line. Good chance that station would be empty soon too.

 

[joegr]

Understood some time after but one day after if they drove some distance they should have filled up on the way back. Sorry, still poor planning. It was not a few people, it was hundreds in line. Good chance that station would be empty soon too.

Plenty of stations have been running out all along the major paths to and from that area. They have also been blocking off exits now and then to try and reduce the impact in some areas, so I would guess that makes fuel stop planning even more difficult. If they have a 300 mile range, and had to go 150 miles away, they'll need a fuel stop every trip. This is four days after, not one.

 

[tarhoosier]

For electric power for automobiles the infrastructure must be expanded dramatically. There needs to be mid to hi power recharging stations in many neighborhoods and on most major roads. They can co-exist with current petrol supplies until a tipping point is reached. Yes it is expensive to build out a nation-wide system from nothing. BUT, there are major international companies that already have the connections, locations, investment interest and ability to move quickly to make this happen.
The international oil companies could take this on and make a profit on it by selling electricity at their current locations and change over from petrol as the need requires. Their ability to provide this is certain. They can control the future of recharging. They can be the automobile leader in their own field, energy supply. Their green qualifications will be unquestioned.
Why. Are. They. Waiting.

 

[joegr]

For electric power for automobiles the infrastructure must be expanded dramatically. There needs to be mid to hi power recharging stations in many neighborhoods and on most major roads. ...

A bigger problem then just adding recharging stations, is where will the power for them come from. A lot more generating capacity (possibly twice as much as we have now) would have to be added to support most people having electric cars.

 

[EdP]

Plenty of stations have been running out all along the major paths to and from that area. They have also been blocking off exits now and then to try and reduce the impact in some areas, so I would guess that makes fuel stop planning even more difficult. If they have a 300 mile range, and had to go 150 miles away, they'll need a fuel stop every trip. This is four days after, not one.

This is fourth day. The news showing the line was the second day. They are probably still in line though.

 

[Slip_Angle]

A bigger problem then just adding recharging stations, is where will the power for them come from. A lot more generating capacity (possibly twice as much as we have now) would have to be added to support most people having electric cars.

Probably time for many places to get their power grid upgraded anyways... A side benefit. Also with Covid, the ability to work from home is so much better so not as much need to commute.

Where I live we have Hydro power to spare and it's cheap.

 

[joegr]

This is fourth day. The news showing the line was the second day. They are probably still in line though.

Normally, my commute home is about 22 minutes. It's been increasing each day. Yesterday was about an hour. A lot of people from are coming here to get what groceries and supplies and gasoline that they can.