Genesis Brand Vision Announcement!

[planar tube]

• All new vehicle launches from 2025 will be electric only
• All Genesis vehicles will be electric from 2030 onward
• Carbon neutral by 2035

Sounds like pandering to the naive and clueless in an attempt to sell cars. The term "carbon neutral" is meaningless and charging your EV with coal-fired power is like having a diet coke with your cheeseburger.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Sounds like pandering to the naive and clueless in an attempt to sell cars. The term "carbon neutral" is meaningless and charging your EV with coal-fired power is like having a diet coke with your cheeseburger.

So that's why the entire industry is moving away from ICE? The fact that coal is being used to generate electricity is a completely different topic and ridiculous in this day and age.

 

[Slip_Angle]

I wonder how many days it will take the firemen to contain this electric vehicle blaze?

Two dead after Tesla crashes into home killing a woman inside and a passenger

TWO people have died after a Tesla struck an embankment and flew through the air before smashing into a Florida home. A 69-year-old woman inside the house was tragically killed, and a 43-year-…

www.the-sun.com

What blaze? It was excess speed and a crash. No fire.

 

[EdP]

What blaze? It was excess speed and a crash. No fire.

What is sad, you think you are safe inside your home. What could happen?
The speeding driver should be charged with murder.

 

[Slip_Angle]

What is sad, you think you are safe inside your home. What could happen?
The speeding driver should be charged with murder.

Yeah, it's terrible. Murder though needs intent.

I do wonder though if power limits will be coming for electric cars. The Plaid does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and a low 9 1/4 mile. Even on a sanctioned race track they technically need helmet, roll cage and parachute!

 

[planar tube]

So that's why the entire industry is moving away from ICE? The fact that coal is being used to generate electricity is a completely different topic and ridiculous in this day and age.

Corporations, like governments, will say anything to appeal to and appease the masses, Slip. Seems to me that power supply and electricity generation methods are key components in the overall EV equation. How will you power yours my friend, wind and solar? The topic is germane and far from ridiculous for thinking people.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Corporations, like governments, will say anything to appeal to and appease the masses, Slip. Seems to me that power supply and electricity generation methods are key components in the overall EV equation. How will you power yours my friend, wind and solar? The topic is germane and far from ridiculous for thinking people.

Hydro electricity. It supplies 96% of my province.

 

[PMCErnie]

What blaze? It was excess speed and a crash. No fire.

If so, just lucky this time. These things burn pretty easily and they are difficult to put out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/07/01/tesla-plaid-fire/%3foutputType=amp

 

[Husky]

Difficult? Capping an oil well that's spewing millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, that's difficult. It took 87 days.

 

[Husky]

Yeah, it's terrible. Murder though needs intent.

I do wonder though if power limits will be coming for electric cars. The Plaid does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds and a low 9 1/4 mile. Even on a sanctioned race track they technically need helmet, roll cage and parachute!

Agreed. Even as an old "you can never have too much horsepower" kind of guy, the power of some of the EVs, Tesla in particular, seem insane and just asking for trouble. Why? It just increases cost and decreases range.

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[EdP]

Agreed. Even as an old "you can never have too much horsepower" kind of guy, the power of some of the EVs, Tesla in particular, seem insane and just asking for trouble. Why? It just increases cost and decreases range.

Speed sells. The marketing people love it. As for cost, look at the difference in price on a G80 3.8 vs 5.0 or now the 2.5 vs 3.5. Hefty but people are paying. Less
costly is the modifications and tunes guys are making for a half second gain. . As pointed out, not everyone can handle that speed

 

[Richard Mississauga]

If so, just lucky this time. These things burn pretty easily and they are difficult to put out.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/07/01/tesla-plaid-fire/%3foutputType=amp

Totally unlike gasoline which burns pretty easily and has the extra added Attraction of being highly explosive.

 

[Husky]

Yeah, let's not forget the Ford Pinto, a k.a. the rolling hand grenade. It became famous for bursting into flames and killing it's unfortunate occupants if it got rear-ended.

 

[PMCErnie]

Totally unlike gasoline which burns pretty easily and has the extra added Attraction of being highly explosive.

Seems that the battery fires are a lot harder to put out than a gasoline fire. This shouldn’t be fresh news to anyone.

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[PMCErnie]

Hydro electricity. It supplies 96% of my province.

“In 2018, 61 per cent of Canada’s electricity generation was from hydroelectric sources, while the remainder was generated from nuclear, natural gas, coal, wind, petroleum, and renewable sources other than hydro.”

Hydroelectricity in Canada

Hydroelectricity is energy produced from flowing water. The amount of energy produced depends on volume and speed: the more water moving at a fast rate, the mor...

www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca

 

[Genny Guy]

• All new vehicle launches from 2025 will be electric only
• All Genesis vehicles will be electric from 2030 onward
• Carbon neutral by 2035

If I hear the word "audacious" one more time I swear

They've been vocal about this move for years. Shortly after launch they said there would be full electric variants of every Genesis vehicle. They've been pushing hydrogen fuel cell and electric with Hyundai for years. The Ionic is now going to be it's own brand/sub-brand.

The only thing I would like to see is a focus on performance EVs. Would be cool to see Genesis lead the field or get "audacious" there.
A lot of the negative comments sound similar to when companies suggested that landline phones were going to be a thing of the past and that cellphones were the future.

 

[Slip_Angle]

“In 2018, 61 per cent of Canada’s electricity generation was from hydroelectric sources, while the remainder was generated from nuclear, natural gas, coal, wind, petroleum, and renewable sources other than hydro.”

Hydroelectricity in Canada

Hydroelectricity is energy produced from flowing water. The amount of energy produced depends on volume and speed: the more water moving at a fast rate, the mor...

www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca

A "Province" in Canada is like a "State" in the USA - hoping you know that but who knows. As I said, in the Province I live, which is Manitoba, 96% of electricity is generated by Hydro. More than 98% of electricity generated in Manitoba comes from clean and renewable sources such as hydroelectricity and wind.

Furthermore, our electricity rates are 9.9 cents per kWh and the 2nd lowest in Canada. Charging an EV here is about $6.

Hydroelectricity | Initiatives | Energy | Environment and Climate Change | Province of Manitoba

www.gov.mb.ca

 

[PMCErnie]

A "Province" in Canada is like a "State" in the USA - hoping you know that but who knows. As I said, in the Province I live, which is Manitoba, 96% of electricity is generated by Hydro. More than 98% of electricity generated in Manitoba comes from clean and renewable sources such as hydroelectricity and wind.

Furthermore, our electricity rates are 9.9 cents per kWh and the 2nd lowest in Canada. Charging an EV here is about $6.

Hydroelectricity | Initiatives | Energy | Environment and Climate Change | Province of Manitoba

www.gov.mb.ca

No kiddin’.

Your entire province has less population than the metro area of my city (1.3 million). In other words, it’s not a huge electric power generation challenge.

By the way, I forgive Manitoba for Neil Young.

 

[SuperKing]

Was listening to my weekly science podcast on the way home from work and heard this tidbit that's relevant.... Even if your electricity was from dirty sources, electric cars still pollute less over the lifetime of the car. Worst case scenario if your electricity was 100% coal it pollutes less than ICE after 80,000 miles. About half the life of the average car.

The typical mix of 23% coal, 20% nuclear, 40% natural gas and other... takes just 13,000 miles before it pollutes less than ICE. If the electricity is 100% renewable source, that number drops to 8000 miles. What it comes down to is electric motors are more efficient, more of the energy goes towards propelling the car and not lost as heat, sound, light, etc...

Diet Coke with a burger? That's still 140 calories less than if you had a regular coke... every little bit helps.