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Genesis DIS versus Microsoft Sync

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The Genesis Tech package Nav system is officially called the Driver Information System (DIS).

Anyone ready to compare DIS to the Sync system currently exclusive to Ford vehicles? Sync gets a lot of promotion but I haven't seen it in action.

Voice recognition
Voice commands for dialing or music
Phone Quality
Pairing
Compatibility
i-Pod or media player integration
Navigation
Directions
DVD player
Other features

To further stir the pot, Hyundai is working on bringing a version of Sync to their cars by 2010. (click for article). Will we be web-surfing from our cars?
 
The Genesis Tech package Nav system is officially called the Driver Information System (DIS).

Just to be picky, the DIS is one of several components of the Tech Package. The NAV system is one of many components of the DIS, representing about 10%. :)

I specifically asked my rep to inquire about SYNC when he went to training. When he got back he said SYNC will be going into Hyundais that currently have nothing. It will not come to Genesis, and it will be impossible to upgrade a Genesis system to SYNC. I think they are wired to Harmon/Kardon/Lexicon for quite sometime. With regard to updating the NAV system, he said no one had a clue. He said they promised to figure it out before MAP upgrades become available. Pretty sure it will be a dealer only update and probably cost a couple hundred bucks.
 
I bet Microsoft is helping to pay for a lot of the publicity that "Sync" is receiving. I thought I read somewhere that the DIS that Hyundai uses is related to the system in BMW vehicles. Is that the case?
 
I bet Microsoft is helping to pay for a lot of the publicity that "Sync" is receiving. I thought I read somewhere that the DIS that Hyundai uses is related to the system in BMW vehicles. Is that the case?

I think Hyundai probably looked at the design of the BMW iDrive and just improved on the interface idea.

As best I can tell the DIS system is internally developed by Hyundai. They have their own subsidiary called Hyundai Autonet that does electronics and Navi systems.
 
From Automobile magazine - "Microsoft chairman Bill Gates probably doesn't get behind the wheel of a Hyundai or Kia too often, but that won't stop him or his company from driving multimedia vehicle entertainment forward. Microsoft Corp. and Hyundai-Kia Automotive Group announced today a new long-term agreement to co-develop the next generation of in-car infotainment systems. Together, the companies will deliver future technology products for Hyundai and Kia vehicles based on the Microsoft Auto software platform (which is already being applied in North American Ford vehicles).The first product to come from the Microsoft and Hyundai-Kia alliance will be a next-generation infotainment system - set to arrive in 2010 - that provides voice-controlled connectivity between mobile devices. The voice-controlled connectivity will further expand into multimedia and navigation devices, allowing drivers to enjoy music in various digital formats.The two companies say the next-generation infotainment systems should be comparable to mini-PCs, as new functions will be added or upgraded in the form of software program updates.Hyundai-Kia's adoption of the Microsoft Auto software platform is particularly notable because it increases Microsoft's presence in the increasingly competitive Asian car market."

Microsoft has teamed up to bring what they call a “music and information system” to Hyundai and KIA cars sold in North America by 2010, now this sort of technology has been exclusive to Ford in the past with their Sync gadget, although it’s not being called Sync (it sure sounds similar). Microsoft and Hyundai Motor Group have setup the Automotive IT Innovation Center, with Hyundai Motor Group adding $166 million and Microsoft investing $113 million to this project. Bill Gates has personally met the South Korean President to talk about the level of involvement from companies in his country. We also hear that Gates will be signing the agreement with Hyundai in Seoul. While the first product to be released in this partnership is a “voice-controlled system linking mobile devices to car stereo systems”, we also hear that in the near future, other products will be released that has multimedia and navigation features. The first product will also feature remote firmware updates and this makes things so much easier, and less costly for manufactures. The real question here, is why Hyundai needs Microsoft for getting music into cars when iPods and iPhones can be added very easily - or are we missing something?

Martin Thall, head of general manager of Microsoft's Automotive Business Unit, emphasized that the current announcement only covers the strategic partnership, and doesn't detail which models might carry the new system, or even how Hyundai Kia will brand it.

Thall stated that Microsoft is interested in developing a strong speech experience with its automotive platform, and looks to a future where the platform becomes the head unit in vehicles. He also suggested that automakers are looking for low-cost navigation, and said one solution might be using dashboard left/right indicator lights for route guidance, rather than an expensive LCD.

Another part of the Microsoft/Hyundai Kia agreement includes an automotive innovation center in Korea that includes the Korean government as a partner. This center would work on Korean government initiatives concerning the environment and safety, and give Korean technology companies a leg up into the automotive market.

This article was originally a blog post on CNET News.com.
 
Thank you for the link, Simon!

As for why Hyundai needs Microsoft - it's because they're surely thinking for along the lines of having personal computers in automobiles. It would be perfect for me, actually. Consider one of my servers going down while I'm on the road. I could pull over and reboot it and get the forums back up and running. Not only that, but web browsing for information, directions, etcetera.. There are many possible applications for using a PC while on the road. I think this is a great idea..
 
Web browsing is more distracting than watching TV in a car, but access to information databases would be awesome. More than just XM-Traffic - Opentable dinner reservations, movie times and tickets, store locator/finder, airport flight-tracker, weather radar, pre-paid tolls accounts... endless possibilities!
 
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Imagine web browsing while driving? Or course, the web browser and other PC services would only be available while in park. :p
 
SYNC doesn't do so well in this Youtube video recognizing music artists... I have not yet used Voice Command on the DIS with my iPod, but so far it has recognized my voice commands for phone dialing well enough.

I will say that the Genesis is less "chatty". Push the button and you just get a tone, not a conversation! If the system does not recognize what you said, it responds "pardon". I find myself saying "help" to get a list of commands.

[YOUTUBE]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/oM6LAgTnZ9o&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/oM6LAgTnZ9o&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/YOUTUBE]
 
I found this to be funny (since we are talking about DIS).

It's an old clip about what Benz S class uses. Most of you have probably seen it.

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The Sync system has some advantages over Genesis DIS in terms of iPod integration. Could be one reason why Microsoft is working with Hyundai on a future platform.

DIS has a very good voice command system but it does not extend to the iPod. You can use voice control for phone, disc (CD tracks), radio tuner, and nav system but not for iPod. Sync also allows voice commands for artist, track and other options.

DIS can still control the iPod menus on screen through the control wheel. The major disadvantage is in scrolling through lengthy menu lists. For instance if you have hundreds of artists you have to scroll down a long way to get to ZZTop... If you normally listen to music through a shorter set of playlists the system works well.

Add iPod voice control to the list of future features wanted on Genesis II.
 
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