Genesis Free NACS Adapter Thread: Post Your Updates

[POG]

Things you should always have in your travel kit:

J1772 to NACS adapter (L2)
CCS to NACS adapter (L3)
OEM provided L1 charging cable
Battery booster (make sure to recharge at least 2 times a year)
Your physical GV60 key

So the adaptor we are getting from Genesis only works on some Tesla chargers but not all?

So if im renting an airbnb that has a home Tesla charger it won't work with that?

 

[gknyce]

So the adaptor we are getting from Genesis only works on some Tesla charges but not all?

So if im renting an airbnb that has a home Tesla charger it won't work with that?

What we are getting from Genesis is for DC fast charging only. Level 3.. yes none of these are interoperable with level 2. This is not just genesis, this has to do with architecture and amperage and heat dissipation etc

 

[gknyce]

Things you should always have in your travel kit:

Your physical GV60 key

The only thing I _don't_ carry with me is the physical key - but it would be prudent/wise to include on anything more than about town, so thank you this is now on my list as well.

 

[EVsquatch]

The only thing I _don't_ carry with me is the physical key - but it would be prudent/wise to include on anything more than about town, so thank you this is now on my list as well.

I wish Genesis had incorporated it into the fob itself. I always carry the fob and having the physical key not be part of the fob is a misstep IMHO.

 

[ideutsch]

Using the Tesla Tap SuperTap, I charged from 50% to 90% at a Tesla Supercharger yesterday. It sustained 97kW throughout the whole charge aside from a dip after passing 80%. Speed dropped to about 43kW after passing 90%. Fortunately the location wasn’t busy because I could see it being quite frustrating to Tesla owners that we take up two spots on the V3 chargers.

 

[brucek]

So the adaptor we are getting from Genesis only works on some Tesla chargers but not all?

So if im renting an airbnb that has a home Tesla charger it won't work with that?

The Tesla NACS connector on the car switches between high-voltage DC and AC on the same physical connectors for power.
Our cars have two systems with the CCS connector, where you remove the cover for DC high voltage, and the J1772 top part of the connector for AC.

Obviously, mode sensing and switching to accept the single format of the NACS connector can be done, as it is implemented in the Tesla vehicle. My guess is that building the logic/hardware into an adapter would make it too expensive or large, and the simple solution of needing two different adapters is what you see implemented.

 

[brucek]

I saw a post on FB where a GV60 owner got the email for the adapter. I was curious how widespread the distribution is, but it does not look like anyone here got the email. I will not hold my breath.

 

[noremacnova]

...it does not look like anyone here got the email.

Yes, member 'ntrainer" got the email. See Genesis Free NACS Adapter Thread: Post Your Updates

 

[POG]

The Tesla NACS connector on the car switches between high-voltage DC and AC on the same physical connectors for power.
Our cars have two systems with the CCS connector, where you remove the cover for DC high voltage, and the J1772 top part of the connector for AC.

Obviously, mode sensing and switching to accept the single format of the NACS connector can be done, as it is implemented in the Tesla vehicle. My guess is that building the logic/hardware into an adapter would make it too expensive or large, and the simple solution of needing two different adapters is what you see implemented.

Thanks. Do you know if the adapters look the same? Is there something physical that would prevent someone from using the wrong adapter on the wrong charger?

 

[Cabbage]

Thanks. Do you know if the adapters look the same? Is there something physical that would prevent someone from using the wrong adapter on the wrong charger?

One thing to keep in mind. Unless you just want one for an emergency, or the convenience of charging overnight at a hotel with a Tesla destination charger, consider the cost. Looking at the A2Z and Lectron websites, an adapter will set you back about $100 - $150 depending on which model you buy. At $.50/Kw, $100 will buy you 200 KwH of electricity. That's roughly 3 complete charges from 10-100% SOC. If you are getting the adapter just to get 'free' charging, unless you plan to use it more than 3 or 4 times, it's cheaper to just buy electricity.

With that said, I do like the convenience of charging to 100% overnight while I sleep at a hotel. That's one reason we stay at the Best Western in Burley, ID on our trips between Seattle and Boulder. They have 3(?) free level 2 (6Kw) J1772 chargers.

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[brucek]

Thanks. Do you know if the adapters look the same? Is there something physical that would prevent someone from using the wrong adapter on the wrong charger?

The one that works with the supercharger will use the connectors with the plastic cover you need to pull off to plug into a fast charger. The destination/home charger will work with the round connector only.

I like having the L2 adapter so I can charge at friends' homes when I visit.

 

[EVsquatch]

One thing to keep in mind. Unless you just want one for an emergency, or the convenience of charging overnight at a hotel with a Tesla destination charger, consider the cost. Looking at the A2Z and Lectron websites, an adapter will set you back about $100 - $150 depending on which model you buy. At $.50/Kw, $100 will buy you 200 KwH of electricity. That's roughly 3 complete charges from 10-100% SOC. If you are getting the adapter just to get 'free' charging, unless you plan to use it more than 3 or 4 times, it's cheaper to just buy electricity.

With that said, I do like the convenience of charging to 100% overnight while I sleep at a hotel. That's one reason we stay at the Best Western in Burley, ID on our trips between Seattle and Boulder. They have 3(?) free level 2 (6Kw) J1772 chargers.

The point of the J1772 to NACS adapter is to be able to use Tesla destination charging that may be available at hotels or other locations. It isn't about comparing the cost of electricity, per say, it is about the convenience of being able to charge overnight and not having to worry about fast charging somewhere else.

Having your car charge while you sleep is one of the most convenient aspects of owning an EV.

 

[Cabbage]

The point of the J1772 to NACS adapter is to be able to use Tesla destination charging that may be available at hotels or other locations. It isn't about comparing the cost of electricity, per say, it is about the convenience of being able to charge overnight and not having to worry about fast charging somewhere else.

Having your car charge while you sleep is one of the most convenient aspects of owning an EV.

Like I said, I like the convenience of having the car charge overnight while I sleep.

 

[Kassey22000]

We’re planning a nice road trip soon and while I have the L2 Tesla unit in the frunk, I’m pretty disappointed in GMA for taking so darn long while over-promising in Jan, and still under delivering while my Kia and Ioniq friends are already in process or have the L3 Tesla adapter (heck even my Nav now shows Tesla Supercharing stations!!!

When I inquired with a GMA CC agent I used to work with (must be gone now), all I got back was some stupid canned press release and the response didn’t even address any of my questions. So on the follow-up canned survey I wrote this.
(sorry some of the writing got cut off in the screen cap, but you get the general idea). TLDR: Genesis is NOT a premium/luxury car experience years on now even if the GV60 is one of my favorite cars. Not sure I’ll ever go back though.

 

[JohnSC]

Today was my first TESLA Supercharge using the A2Z adapter. From the plugging in and starting the charge, it was flawless! I did have a TESLA driver charging next to me ask why I pulled into a TESLA charger with a non TESLA vehicle. I told him TESLA is opening up the network to non Teslas. He replied that he had not idea that was happening. As I drove away, other TESLA folks charging looked up at me. They are probably thinking it's going to get a little more busy at TESLA charging stations.

From the LA Times:

"Tesla has agreed to open up its charging network to non-Tesla electric vehicles after the U.S. government said it would foot the bill.

Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive, promised to provide 7,500 open-access chargers in the U.S. by the end of 2024, according to Biden administration officials. Taxpayer dollars will pay for the conversion of existing Tesla chargers or the construction of new ones to accommodate cars built by Ford, GM, Hyundai, Kia, Volvo, Volkswagen and other electric car makers.

The Tesla deal is part of the Biden administration’s $7.5-billion plan to fund 500,000 EV chargers throughout the U.S., mostly along major highways at 50-mile intervals. The spending was approved by Congress in 2021. Further details were announced Wednesday morning. Tesla’s share of that pie was not disclosed."

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[noremacnova]

From the LA Times:...

What's the dateline on that article? Sounds like NEVI, now halted by Trump.

 

[EVsquatch]

Like I said, I like the convenience of having the car charge overnight while I sleep.

I was responding to your comment about considering "the cost" and "paying for electricity" vs buying the J1772 adapter. Your advice was to not buy the adapter if the OP was only going to use it a few times and just "pay the electricity."Cost is irrelevant if you eliminate the opportunity to charge by not having a J1772 adapter. If you show up at a hotel or any location that might offer Tesla destination charging and you don't have an adapter you are SOL especially if you weren't able to DCFC for whatever reason along your route.

Traveling with an EV requires you to plan and be prepared. The cost of the adapter is miniscule relative to the opportunity it provides to not be left stranded somewhere if you weren't able to charge along your route or to leverage overnight charging. Unless you never road trip, there isn't a good reason in my mind to not carry an adapter to cover all of your bases.

 

[Cabbage]

I was responding to your comment about considering "the cost" and "paying for electricity" vs buying the J1772 adapter. Your advice was to not buy the adapter if the OP was only going to use it a few times and just "pay the electricity."Cost is irrelevant if you eliminate the opportunity to charge by not having a J1772 adapter. If you show up at a hotel or any location that might offer Tesla destination charging and you don't have an adapter you are SOL especially if you weren't able to DCFC for whatever reason along your route.

Traveling with an EV requires you to plan and be prepared. The cost of the adapter is miniscule relative to the opportunity it provides to not be left stranded somewhere if you weren't able to charge along your route or to leverage overnight charging. Unless you never road trip, there isn't a good reason in my mind to not carry an adapter to cover all of your bases.

I apologize for not making my intentions clear. I was not trying to suggest that the OP not buy an adapter. Not knowing the reason for getting the adapter, I wanted to make sure the OP considered all the factors.

I know pilots who will fly their private plane 20 miles out of the way to save $.10/gallon on gas. They fail to consider the fact that they've spent more money on the extra gas required to go those extra miles than they will save by buying the cheaper gas. I'm sure some people do the same thing when buying gas for their cars.

If the reason for getting the adapter is for the convenience of charging the car while sleeping at a hotel, then, by all means, get the adapter. I would do the same if the hotel I planned to stay at only had Tesla destination chargers.

 

[DS9]

Anyone have any recommendations on a L2 NACS to J1772 adapter for use with the Tesla destination chargers? I’m thinking of picking up the one from A2Z: NACS Charger To J1772 Vehicle | AC | The Stellar Plug

I bought the Lectron - Tesla to J1772 Charging Adapter several months back and it has worked well.

 

[tvmaster]

Today was my first TESLA Supercharge using the A2Z adapter. From the plugging in and starting the charge, it was flawless! I did have a TESLA driver charging next to me ask why I pulled into a TESLA charger with a non TESLA vehicle. I told him TESLA is opening up the network to non Teslas. He replied that he had not idea that was happening. As I drove away, other TESLA folks charging looked up at me. They are probably thinking it's going to get a little more busy at TESLA charging stations.

What do we need to do for this, install an app? Create an account of some kind? Store a payment method with someone? Need to know for a long-distance trip next week